posted May 15, 2012 11:39 AM            

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Originally posted by katatonic:
i smell fear of the queer here. for why? ever been assaulted in a locker room? most of the "perversion" associated with gays was a direct result of having to hide who they were for so long, lest some lovely romney type decide to disfigure them one day for a laugh...or much worse.

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Homophobia has long been associated with homosexual arousal: http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-big-questions/201106/homophobic- men-most-aroused-gay-male-porn, http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8772014

posted May 15, 2012 11:42 AM            

this is NOT in accordance with equal rights for all. and it is not up to straights to decide whether or not being gay is "normal" "natural" or "legal". any more than it is okay for me to tell you where you should live and with whom you may marry.

was a time when a jew marrying a catholic would result in them both being shunned or excommunicated by their communities. for which reason i never met my grandmother.

posted May 15, 2012 12:15 PM            

There's not a word of truth in what you said. It's just more psychobabble coming off your keyboard that's totally disconnected from reality.

CURL: Team Obama panics, and it’s only May
By Joseph Curl
The Washington Times
Sunday, May 13, 2012

It’s mushroom cloud after mushroom cloud for President Obama.

We’ll never see the internal polls, but the externals are awful: Down 8 percent to challenger Mitt Romney in the latest poll, with fewer than 180 days; disillusioned college kids, independents and the white working-class fleeing in droves. Even the barber-shops boys are mocking their Man. Makes sense that in Chicagoland, Obama Central, the internals they’re seeing are even worse.

Which explains this past week. Joe “Blunderbuss” Biden on May 6 blurts out that he’s totally cool with gays marrying. Mushroom cloud. Release the hounds: The vice president is at odds with the president. Monday, the White House slow-plays it (with spokesman Jay “Talking Points” Carney finally fully filling his role as Chief Buffoon). Tuesday, a fierce press corps demanding answers (ABC’s Jake Tapper gets his Underoos all in a wad.) Chief Buffoon repeating over and over, no change — until there’s a change. Oh, and North Carolina just happens to be busy voting down gay marriage.

Wednesday, the president suddenly announces a sit-down (with a friendly reporter, of course), and, oh boy, he’s gotta answer the gay marriage question now! (Or Jake will really come at him.) The president does! He’s for it! (But let the states decide — bold new territory, except former Vice President Dick Cheney said the same thing three years ago.) The Associated Press says president has set a “world precedent.” And Thursday, off to Hollywood to party at George Clooney’s house (tears of joy wept for the smartest president ever). At the weekend, Mr. Obama and Mr. Biden celebrate with a round of golf.

The whole thing was (say it with me) — a setup. Send Joe out — he’s a goof, he might misspeak, who knows? — and then play it for all its worth. Work it for the week — the press will go along. Jobs? The economy? Please. We’ve got to get to the bottom of this gay marriage thing!

But even that bodes ill: The big brains on the yellow couches in the Oval Office are busy coming up with ways to distract from the economy by pandering to the most liberal people in America. They must’ve concluded they don’t have much else. Can they do it every week, for the next six months? Panic. Desperation.

By the way, why is it that when a Republican changes his mind, based on life experience, learned wisdom, he’s a “flip-flopper,” but when a Democrat changes his mind — opposes gay marriage, as Mr. Obama did, then takes no stance (politics), then suddenly supports it — he has “evolved”? You can look it up: the president has completely flip-flopped; still, it’s an “evolution,” according to the MSM.

Which brings us back to Wednesday, when ABC led the evening newscast with — no, not Mr. Obama’s flip-flop, but a report that Mr. Romney was mean to a kid 48 years ago when he was at boarding school. Seems the kid looked different — long blond hair — and Mitt and the boys dropped him, sheared the locks. Sure, a prank — or was Mr. Romney a homophobe, persecuting what The Washington Post said was a “presumed” gay student?

Now, Team Obama is known for sifting through the sordid pasts of every candidate it has faced: In fact, it’s the only way he won two races in Illinois, one for the Statehouse, one for U.S. senator. But here, in May, via The Washington Post, are they really going through the high school days of their coming opponent? Mr. Obama was fond of blowing a doob in college, but that’s not an issue. Mitt being mean to another boy nearly five decades ago? Smacks of desperation.

And it’s only May. Mr. Obama is already behind — well behind, according to the most accurate pollster from 2008 — and panicking. Worse, the enthusiasm of the base is dwindling. Kicking off his 2012 campaign, Mr. Obama played to empty seats in Ohio. What was a revolutionary movement four years ago is now just another callow political campaign, with the candidate willing to say whatever it takes to win supporters. Worse, the kids who supported him last time are bored.

The gay marriage move will, eventually, prove to be a major miscalculation. Trying to shore up the liberal and college vote — pushing the college-loan thing apparently was not enough — Mr. Obama just bolstered his opponent among Christians: Even as a Mormon, he might line up better with Christians who oppose gay marriage. There goes North Carolina, and maybe Virginia, too. Sure, Hollywood is more jazzed, but it will turn out not to be worth it: He just lost more votes than he gained.

However it plays out, the panic and desperation of Team Obama is palpable. And for the incumbent president to be forced to pander so cravenly to his base less than six months from Election Day: They definitely know something we don’t yet know — and it isn’t good.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/may/13/curl-team-obama-panics-and-its-only-may/

posted May 15, 2012 12:29 PM            

as the king of mischaracterization, to the point of caricature, i believe you are reading your own MO into my post. can't stop you, but that was not what i said.

posted May 16, 2012 12:00 PM            

Yes katatonic, that's exactly what you did say. You used my screen name in your nonsense and then without a period, coma or any new expressed thought, referred to me as YOU...as the one who considered gays as pets to mate gays with whom I please.

So much for you denial katatonic!

"gays are people, jwhop, not pets you can mate with whom YOU please"...katatonic

posted May 16, 2012 01:08 PM            

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Originally posted by jwhop:
"you quoted me, jwhop, did it say you consider them pets?"...katatonic

Yes katatonic, that's exactly what you did say. You used my screen name in your nonsense and then without a period, coma or any new expressed thought, referred to me as YOU...as the one who considered gays as pets to mate gays with whom I please.

So much for you denial katatonic!

"gays are people, jwhop, not pets [b]you can mate with whom YOU please"...katatonic

Any rational, literate person would read this exactly as I did.[/B]

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posted May 16, 2012 02:07 PM            

"You" is a pronoun for whom ever you're addressing. You made it clear whom you were addressing when you used my screen name jwhop.

posted May 22, 2012 02:12 PM            

as to the original topic and original post, i asked ami more than once to supply a link, a source, ANY evidence backing her statement that caroline kennedy has changed her tune...

the only source mentioned was this gossip-column book by someone who is ditching thirdhand dirt.

here is a quote from a letter sent out by caroline kennedy 3 months ago, presumably when said book was in editting for publication...

Friend --

Four years ago today, I joined my Uncle Teddy and thousands of excited students at American University to endorse Barack Obama as the next president of the United States.

Barack Obama had stirred something in young people and the young at heart. I saw the passion in my own teenage children, and I heard it from a different generation of people who said they felt like they did when my father ran for president.

We felt strongly that we needed to elect a president who urged us to believe in ourselves, who could tie that belief to our highest ideals, and who understood that together we can do great things.

Four years later, as I think about what first inspired me to support Barack Obama, I'm proud we have a president who has fought hard for the values Teddy held dear, and stood up on issues that matter...

How proud he would have been to see his candidate sign the Affordable Care Act into law as president, giving all Americans the security of knowing that their health care will be there when they need it most.

In his speech four years ago today, Teddy reminded us all of that bright light of hope and possibility that shines even in the darkest hours. He knew that with Barack Obama as president, America would shine again. I don't think he would be surprised to know that four years later, this president would have ended the war in Iraq, repealed "Don't Ask, Don't Tell," and guaranteed women the right to equal pay for equal work.

The 2012 election will be harder than the last. As you think about what role you can play this time, I want you to remember that when Teddy joined this campaign, it wasn't just Barack Obama who drew him in.

It was you.

The possibility of a campaign run by ordinary people determined to change our country for the better and willing to work as hard as necessary inspired him then, and it's what inspires me today.

Thanks for all you do.

I'll see you out there,

Caroline"

now i know things change minute to minute, but YTA's dissing of CK as being "after hillary's senate seat" is out of date by several years, and kennedy declined to run for that seat if anyone can remember that far back. she has NEVER sought public office.

and though this letter came 3 months ago, as i said, a book goes through a fairly lengthy process between author's desk and publication. it would have been written at LEAST 3 months ago.

posted May 22, 2012 04:39 PM            

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Originally posted by katatonic:
oh, and jwhop? i am not a politician or a journalist or a lawyer. NOR your child.

despite the ribbing at the top of my last post, i do NOT need YOU, jwhop, to tell me what i meant or what i didn't mean. and when in error I ADMIT my mistakes. unlike some folk round here.

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posted May 22, 2012 05:55 PM            

Oh do try to speak the Kings English or at least American English then katatonic. It would be soooo helpful in ferreting out what you're trying to say.

posted May 23, 2012 07:24 PM            

even though i once mistyped picayune, as AG did FREUD recently, please don't try to beat me on language, jwhop, unless you like wasting time...it's a loser's game. just to save you the minute it would take to check it out, here, free from me:
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/you

1. the one or ones being addressed —used as the pronoun of the second person singular or plural in any grammatical relation except that of a possessive <you may sit in that chair> <you are my friends> <can I pour you a cup of tea> —used formerly only as a plural pronoun of the second person in the dative or accusative case as direct or indirect object of a verb or as object of a preposition — compare thee, thou, ye, your, yours

2: one 2a <after a while, it grows on you>

See you defined for English-language learners »
See you defined for kids »

posted May 23, 2012 07:44 PM            

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Originally posted by katatonic:
due to the lack of any evidence to the contrary i am going to say AMI is the liar in QUOTING caroline kennedy with no source and no reference and NO backup except a book full of gossip pitched to cash in on the obama hater's obsessions.

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posted May 23, 2012 07:52 PM            

you
PRONOUN:

Used to refer to the one or ones being addressed:

posted May 23, 2012 08:00 PM            

and if you can't admit it when you are wrong, that is okay. you are the worst sort of nit picker, attacking people for typos or for writing as they speak here in what is an INFORMAL setting.

i rarely use capitals either. big deal.

as either FDR said to churchill, or the other way around, "this is the sort of nonsense up with which i will not put!" in other words take your picayune pedantic argument elsewhere. if you have something to say that is actually a conversation, fine, but if you just want to humiliate people, you PERSONALLY are barking up the wrong tree here.

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posted May 23, 2012 09:39 PM            

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Originally posted by katatonic:
got past the censor, didn't it? go tel randall if you like s*****marm!

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posted May 24, 2012 02:07 PM            

you
PRONOUN:

Used to refer to the one or ones being addressed:

Now, go enroll yourself in a remedial English class!

posted May 24, 2012 02:26 PM            

it appears you couldn't find #2 in the admittedly LONG definition i posted so you didn't even have to go to google.

you can also be used in place of "one" as in reference to people in general. need another wording so you can grasp it?