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doommlord
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posted April 27, 2013 10:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for doommlord     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by juniperb:
Doommlord. "stats" will always be available from any group type with an agenda .

ie militia, conspiracy theories of any flavor,political parties, judeo christians, Muslim or religious factions .

A responsible party, like the FBI, generally does not break such horror down to religious or ethnic types.

Terrorism is terrorism and deplorable by any group & label.



That what ive been trying to point out since there is no "justified" terrorism no matter how small and by what group.

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posted April 27, 2013 10:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by doommlord:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by juniperb:
[b]Doommlord. "stats" will always be available from any group type with an agenda .

ie militia, conspiracy theories of any flavor,political parties, judeo christians, Muslim or religious factions .

A responsible party, like the FBI, generally does not break such horror down to religious or ethnic types.

Terrorism is terrorism and deplorable by any group & label.



That what ive been trying to point out since there is no "justified" terrorism no matter how small and by what group.[/B][/QUOTE]

Exactly.
We must not let hate groups , their detractors or promoters use their agenda to permeat the love, tolerance and respect of wise people who see a greater tomorrow.

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Ami Anne
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posted April 27, 2013 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No terrorism is justified, but people can't be blind to the actual reality of the majority of it

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posted April 27, 2013 11:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ ^

Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Juni
Randall does not want me to LIST what Muslim terrorists have done in this world next to the very, very FEW Christian ones. Randall closed that thread for a reason. Respect that.

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Ami Anne
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posted April 27, 2013 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by juniperb:
^ ^

Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Juni
Randall does not want me to [b] LIST what Muslim terrorists have done in this world next to the very, very FEW Christian ones. Randall closed that thread for a reason. Respect that.

[/B]


Yes, we are not listing but don't try to skew reality, Juni. Lets move on, Shall we

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posted April 27, 2013 11:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am done here, if you are all.

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posted April 27, 2013 11:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Yes, we are not listing but don't try to skew reality, Juni. Lets move on, Shall we


quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
People who will commit evil--in order of [b]degree and frequency of said evil atrocities--worldwide
1.Muslim's terrorism
2.People who have some sort of mental illness such as the Colorado movie killer or Andrea Yates.
3.Radical people of any bent, other than Muslim terrorists such as people who bomb abortion clinics( very small percentage of evil on a worldwide scale)
4. The LAST group will be Conservative Christians or Jews, who are 95 peaceful and want to be left alone to work, have a family and enjoy freedom and democracy. These people do not wish to infringe on the rights of others, but do not want the government or anyone to infringe on their rights.I will allow 5% for any of the nuts in Number 3

Look to truth Juni, not your twisted way of skewing reality.



Ami Anne:

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Percentage of Christian gun crimes worldwide-- 8%( if that)
Percentage of Muslim Terrorism worldwide-- 92%


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posted April 27, 2013 11:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Yes, I stand by all I have written because it is truth. There is no LIFE without truth. There is no HUMANITY without truth. There is no NOTHING without truth except lies and lies are evil.

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posted April 27, 2013 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Onward and Upward

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posted April 30, 2013 07:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When a strong man, fully armed guards his own house, his possessions are safe.


Luke 11:21

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posted April 30, 2013 07:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Trying to post an image with limited success. I guess I am more of an idiot than a savant

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defending one's house is not being called terrorism by anyone. nor does it escalate the situation in most cases.

to be brutally honest, we have had ONE major attack by muslim terrorists. that was 9/11. we went and paid back millions who had nothing to do with it. who is the worse aggressor?

this last incident was just as terrible but hardly as well-planned, funded or effective...except for the warzone reaction of the constabulary..who committed their fair share of terror on the residents of watertown who were busy "complying" by staying in their homes.

i am NOT condoning this boston affair...on either side. we showed the world that a dozen individuals with home made bombs could shut our whole country down, that is not what i call clever. someone more organized with money behind them is probably considering this now.

it is most unfortunate that, as shown by this last incident, terrorists are people who, like ami, think that when things are not the way they believe they should be, ONE MAN SHOULD STAND UP AGAINST EVIL and that will make things right again.

patently obvious that is not so. because "standing up to evil" is the excuse of all lynch mobs, riots, and terrorists.

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posted April 30, 2013 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
When a strong man, fully armed guards his own house, his possessions are safe.


[b] Luke 11:21

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Exactly what possessions are you referring to?

Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal;
But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal. For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.

Matthew 6:19-6:20

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Ami Anne
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posted April 30, 2013 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, Shura, I will live in a hut. Is that the kind of life you aspire to?

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posted April 30, 2013 04:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Yes, Shura, I will live in a hut. Is that the kind of life you aspire to?


may be you should it would give us some holidays

more seriously,are you suggesting Matthew 6:19-6:20 quoted by shura means living in a hut?

I suppose my question highlight the importance of interprétations when it comes to religious rules

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posted April 30, 2013 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Shura is rich beyond comprehension.

Rich isn`t money but fullness of heart and Faith.

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so muslim terrorists are not "mentally deranged people"? why is it that when a christian terrorizes he is dismissed as a "wackadoodle" but when a muslim does it he is defined as the enemy?

with 9/11 i can see the difference. well organized, well funded, and massive damage done as in an air strike in any war. most "terrorists" do no more damage than "wackadoodles" who are considered "accidents"

many rulers are more terrorist than their rebellious people. putin comes to mind as well as saddam hussein and others.

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posted April 30, 2013 04:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted April 30, 2013 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Juni
Lets stop throwing insults at each other, so Randall does not have to come in and break it up. I feel the way I do about you and you feel the way you do about me.

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posted April 30, 2013 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Randall is right. We both need to model better behavior by not fighting with each other. It is unseemly and a stress on him.

We don't have to like everyone on LL but we should act gracious, at least. If we can't, we should ignore.

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posted April 30, 2013 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Onward and Upward

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posted April 30, 2013 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ami ann you are deluded, you see insults when there are non, read again what juni said,

she didn't say "shura is rich beyond YOUR comprehension"

BUT

she said "shura is rich beyond comprehension"

and regardless, had she said your comprehension, it would still remain a matter of interpretation wether or not her comments would or wouldn't be a personal attack in disguise. it says more of your psyche... that is not an attack, but something you confirm to me on a regular basis. the crazy thing is that you give paying advice to others with your website, and your perception is so biased here. shocking

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posted April 30, 2013 05:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by pire:
ami ann you are deluded, you see insults when there are non, read again what juni said,

she [b]didn't say "shura is rich beyond YOUR comprehension"

BUT

she said "shura is rich beyond comprehension"

and regardless, had she said your comprehension, it would still remain a matter of interpretation wether or not her comments would or wouldn't be a personal attack in disguise. it says more of your psyche... that is not an attack, but something you confirm to me on a regular basis. the crazy thing is that you give paying advice to others with your website, and your perception is so biased here. shocking[/B]


She said your and edited it out, I think. Anyway, Juni and I need to take the higher road with each other and that is the case whether she edited it or not. Anyway, I think we should move on. Principles above personalities.

Onward and Upward, Pire et al

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posted April 30, 2013 05:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well, you don't have anything against saying and then editing, do you?

and regardless, again, if she had eventually said "shura is rich beyond your comprehension", there is still lots of room to perceive this sentence as a personal attack. even if it comes from someone you disagree often with

that goes back to the original topic, may be the connection between god and guns lies in insecurities. both help the weakest to feel safe. strong people can dissociate where lies real strength may be.

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posted April 30, 2013 05:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Pire no edit but you nailed it. I have known shura for 10 + years and know her spirituality quite well.

Good to see you posting here again!!

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