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Ami Anne
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posted April 30, 2013 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyhoo
Everyone had their say. Let's move on

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posted April 30, 2013 05:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
juni, my pleasure

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posted April 30, 2013 05:58 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ami it is not your decision when everyone has "had their say". sorry but "moderator" is not "emperor"

edit, apologies ami, i am a bit blunt, but if you are "done" you are free to leave without calling an end to oir conversation, aren't you?

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posted April 30, 2013 07:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Yes, Shura, I will live in a hut. Is that the kind of life you aspire to?


I do not aspire to wordly riches. Greater souls than you or I were born in caves and lived in huts.

Again, the devil took him up into an exceedingly high mountain, and showed him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them; and said unto him, All these things will I give you, if you will fall down and worship me.
Matthew 4:8 4:9


It may be worth noting that to successfully guide a wealthy camel through the eye of the needle the beast must be led on its knees.

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posted April 30, 2013 07:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by pire:

that goes back to the original topic, may be the connection between god and guns lies in insecurities. both help the weakest to feel safe. strong people can dissociate where lies real strength may be.


That's a very interesting observation, pire

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posted May 01, 2013 08:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Shura
God prospers those who serve Him. God is the God of giving more than enough. He is not a God of lack. People who don't understand the Bible have that all wrong, as you do.

I am wealthy in all areas of my life whether it be possessions, people to love, people who love me or work I adore.

You can't out give God. The more I give, the more He gives me back.

I am number one and two on all the Google and Bing rankings.

I just flow in God's love and He blesses me. Praise the Lord. I love Him with all my heart and my life's purpose is to let His Love flow out from me

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posted May 01, 2013 09:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Shura
God [b] prospers
those who serve Him. God is the God of giving more than enough. He is not a God of lack. People who don't understand the Bible have that all wrong, as you do.

I am wealthy in all areas of my life whether it be possessions, people to love, people who love me or work I adore.

You can't out give God. The more I give, the more He gives me back.

I am number one and two on all the Google and Bing rankings.

I just flow in God's love and He blesses me. Praise the Lord. I love Him with all my heart and my life's purpose is to let His Love flow out from me

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if one day, ami, you ask yourself why you raise anger or hatred in others towards you, think about this:

being friend with someone is accepting them, including their drawbacks. you can argue with a friend and diasgree, but ultimately, a friend is someone you have respect for, and thus you are capable of accepting his shortcomings. however, with an attitude of opposition, of comparison, typically steming from a lack of self love, you end up creating a divide that others (even with good intentions initially, although eventually in disagreement over a specific subject) will inevitably send you back that vibe. and thus reinforce your feeling of hatred all around.

god loves you? good for you, and remeber, he also loves unconditionnally the jihadist.

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posted May 01, 2013 09:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
and ponctuating your comments with funny faces doesn't quite counter balance it

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posted May 01, 2013 09:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pire
Actions come from a good or evil heart. The spiritual forces behind evil have to be taken into account too, but that is for another day.

The Muslim terrorist who would bomb the Boston Marathon and kill a young child whom he walked behind in several of the pictures, blow legs of innocent runners is evil

This has to be talked about Truth is love. People who want to sweep truth under the rug are part of the evil, albeit covert evil.

Evil can only exist when "good people" do nothing" These people are not good, per se because truth is love. They are afraid to be strong and to stand up and be counted.That is it's own form of evil.

People have to stand up and talk about good and evil. If not, there will be more Muslim terrorists attacks just like this one and on American soil, as well as all foreign soils throughout the entire world. Who is the evil person? The one who wants to whitewash it or the one who tells the truth and call a spade a spade?

I don't need an answer. It was a rhetorical question


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posted May 01, 2013 09:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I will tell you something about myself, Pire that you may know or may not and may not want to, but I will tell you anyway.

I am a Cancer moon( almost Unaspected) conjunct the MC. I am very tender and very sweet with an open heart to the world. I grew up with a maligant narc mother. I could not face the kind of person who is hidden and covert. That kind of person has a big fake smile and do gooder actions but does covert warfare from behind and tries to blame other people for it, while trying to maintain a perfect image to the world.

It took me until now to recognize that kind of person and to know what I am dealing with.Now, I can fight it at it's own level, as one needs to have every tool at one's disposal.

This brings me to why I stand up. I do it because all kinds of evil hurts people. The Muslim terrorists who just killed the child and blew off the legs of a dance teacher and innocent runner are overtly evil. It must be called evil if not, what are the people who won't? They are evil too, by definition.


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I grew up with a maligant narc mother. I could not face the kind of person who is hidden and covert. That kind of person has a big fake smile and do gooder actions but does covert warfare from behind and tries to blame other people for it, while trying to maintain a perfect image to the world.

when are you going to leave your mother ami? the people you describe just above sound very much like your persona here. perhaps you don't realize it but this is not your personal vendetta forum.


the way you wave your victimhood around as an excuse for attacking others, yes, very cancer mc. it is understandable how many abuse victims become counselors, but advisable that they heal themselves before projecting their own problems onto their clients and the world around them. self-diagnosis is a very tricky wicket.

i have news for you, the jews are far from alone in their victimhood. nor are they alone in wanting payback from the world. it solves nothing but creates a self-perpetuating circle.

hitler was also an abused child. SEVERELY abused...and projected his hurt and anger on the rest of the world, absolutely determined to "stand up" and extinguish evil AS HE SAW IT. does becoming like him heal the past?

i wish you healing and a measure of understanding. to heal others, heal theyself, and do no harm. vengeance just perpetuates evil.

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posted May 01, 2013 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You make some valid points, Kat. I, finally, understand malignant narcissism and can deal with it. You have to know what you are dealing with, be able to beat them at their own game, if need be.

Then, you may decide to do so or walk away but the first two parts have to be mastered. Then, you are free, which I am now. Thanks for your input

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no sweetie becoming the perp is never the solution! as i and others have been trying to say.

that just makes a worldful of malignant narcissists, don't we have enough already?

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posted May 01, 2013 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by katatonic:
no sweetie becoming the perp is never the solution! as i and others have been trying to say.

that just makes a worldful of malignant narcissists, don't we have enough already?


You have to be STRONG enough to be the perp. You get that way by standing up to one. You just have to do it one time, but you have to be fearless.

Until that time, you are a victim of any of them who want to mess with you. At the point you are strong enough, you can CHOOSE to walk away, but prior to that, there is no choice.

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posted May 01, 2013 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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God prospers those who serve Him. God is the God of giving more than enough. He is not a God of lack. People who don't understand the Bible have that all wrong, as you do.

I am wealthy in all areas of my life whether it be possessions, people to love, people who love me or work I adore.

You can't out give God. The more I give, the more He gives me back.

I am number one and two on all the Google and Bing rankings.

I just flow in God's love and He blesses me. Praise the Lord. I love Him with all my heart and my life's purpose is to let His Love flow out from me



This is funny.

And I almost can't say anything for fear of being too mean.

One could think that God gave us the internet so Christians wouldn't have to leave home to do His work, or one could realize a more subtle design at play.

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i realize ami that you think listening to other points of view might undermine your self-referral. there is a middle ground and it does NOT entail seeing malignant narcissists in every one who challenges your worldview.

forgiveness doesn't mean allowing the relationship to continue. but it does mean not allowing yourself to continually re-enact it.

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posted May 01, 2013 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's a false self-referral to start with.

Only the person clinging to the anger gets hurt from it. The key to forgiveness is understanding that the "mean" person couldn't act any better in the circumstance. Even if it seems false that they could have been doing the best they could, it is what they did, so whether they were capable of more is up for debate. It's best to understand that the situation was their deal, not yours.

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posted May 01, 2013 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AcousticGod:
[QUOTE]God prospers those who serve Him. God is the God of giving more than enough. He is not a God of lack. People who don't understand the Bible have that all wrong, as you do.

I am wealthy in all areas of my life whether it be possessions, people to love, people who love me or work I adore.

You can't out give God. The more I give, the more He gives me back.

I am number one and two on all the Google and Bing rankings.

I just flow in God's love and He blesses me. Praise the Lord. I love Him with all my heart and my life's purpose is to let His Love flow out from me



This is funny.

And I almost can't say anything for fear of being too mean.

One could think that God gave us the internet so Christians wouldn't have to leave home to do His work, or one could realize a more subtle design at play. [/QUOTE]

You are bordering on mean

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posted May 01, 2013 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyhoo AG
Since you outted yourself and I don't need to call you "unnamed person" anymore

Do you think that a Christian man should not fight back if someone attacks his date?

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posted May 01, 2013 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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i realize ami that you think listening to other points of view might undermine your self-referral. there is a middle ground and it does NOT entail seeing malignant narcissists in every one who challenges your worldview.

forgiveness doesn't mean allowing the relationship to continue. but it does mean not allowing yourself to continually re-enact it.


You some valid points, as I do. Thanks for taking the time and care to respond. I really appreciate it!

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posted May 01, 2013 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What would Jesus do, Ami? Would Jesus resort to violence, or simply move to subdue the person?

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how some people remain at large is a true mystery to me. off to take my own advice

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posted May 01, 2013 02:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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What would Jesus do, Ami? Would Jesus resort to violence, or simply move to subdue the person?

Jesus would not let people attack his g/f, so to speak. He turned OVER the tables in the Temple and that is a "violent action" so I think he would push them away in any way He could. If it took beating them up, I think He would.

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Tables aren't people, and that only occurred once. You believing he would beat someone up, and him doing it are two different things. When they came for Jesus, one of the disciples asked if they should smite the group. Jesus didn't answer before an ear had been cut off. Jesus then healed the ear, and went with the people that would see him beaten and killed.

8 Finally, be ye all likeminded, compassionate, loving as brethren, tenderhearted, humbleminded:

9 not rendering evil for evil, or reviling for reviling; but contrariwise blessing; for hereunto were ye called, that ye should inherit a blessing.

10 For, He that would love life, And see good days, Let him refrain his tongue from evil, And his lips that they speak no guile:

11 And let him turn away from evil, and do good; Let him seek peace, and pursue it.

12 For the eyes of the Lord are upon the righteous, And his ears unto their supplication: But the face of the Lord is upon them that do evil.

13 And who is he that will harm you, if ye be zealous of that which is good?

14 But even if ye should suffer for righteousness' sake, blessed are ye: and fear not their fear, neither be troubled;

15 but sanctify in your hearts Christ as Lord: being ready always to give answer to every man that asketh you a reason concerning the hope that is in you, yet with meekness and fear:

16 having a good conscience; that, wherein ye are spoken against, they may be put to shame who revile your good manner of life in Christ.

17 For it is better, if the will of God should so will, that ye suffer for well-doing than for evil-doing.

1 Peter 3:8-17

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posted May 01, 2013 03:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Look, you can quote Scripture and I can quote Scripture. You are asking to take Jesus into modern times and have him out with a date in a bad neighborhood with thugs attacking his g/f.

I think He would do what needed to be done to protect her. He would do the least resistance he could but if he had to beat them up or kill them in her defense, I think He would.

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