posted October 21, 2013 05:05 PM            

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posted October 21, 2013 06:52 PM            

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posted October 21, 2013 10:34 PM            

Could you really be this ignorant pire?

Don't you know that the murderous dictator tyrants were all Socialists, yet you wheeze, whine, howl, screech and shriek about Marine Le Pen who is most definitely not a Socialist.

Let's recap pire:

Lenin...Murderous Socialist
Stalin..Murderous Socialist
Hitler..Murderous Socialist
Ho......Murderous Socialist
Mao.....Murderous Socialist
Pol Pot Murderous Socialist
Castro..Murderous Socialist
Chavez..Murderous Socialist
Hussein-Murderous Socialist
Assad...Murderous Socialist

Not to mention the murderous Socialist dictator family of North Korean infamy.

Of course, there were those Vichy French who assisted the murderous Socialist Hitler in the extermination of French Jews. In fact pire, just 2 of those murderous Socialist dictators..Stalin and Mao, killed about 200 million of their own citizens...for disagreeing with their murderous Socialist regimes.

posted October 21, 2013 10:45 PM            

Well, let me be blunt.

I don't give a rat's ass what foreign nationals think...unless they stick their long bony busy body noses into American politics and policies. Then, they're fair game for comments about their own nations shortcomings..which they conveniently overlook.

posted October 21, 2013 10:50 PM            

My point to IQ was to mind his own business...until he's dealt with the "Untouchables" problem in India and until he's dealt with the problem of "14 million slaves in India". Then IQ can tell us here in America what we should do..but not until that time.

posted October 22, 2013 10:06 AM            

October 22, 2013
The Euro-Socialist Death Spiral
By Mark Petrina

In a small but telling incident, a German journalist accosted a Tea Partier at the Supreme Court on the day the ObamaCare case was being decided. The German upbraided the Tea Party movement for opposing government-run health care. His tone was the standard condescension for enlightened Euro-moralizing about -- well, everything, but especially socialized medicine -- for the benefit of benighted Americans. In short, he behaved like an average Democrat.

An old fable describes the attitude of "civilized" Euro-Socialists -- and their U.S. counterparts, the Democrats -- toward the United States. A genie appears to two peasants and grants each a wish. The first wishes for a beautiful prize cow. The second, envying his neighbor's coming prosperity, wishes for the cow to drop dead on the spot.

Instead of getting their own cow, our "betters" keep wishing for ours to die. The Democrats eagerly agree, forcibly herding Americans into the Euro-Socialist death spiral -- for our own good, of course. Government knows best. This is especially of our health care system.

According to the German journalist -- echoing American liberals -- it is time for the USA to join the family of civilized nations by providing universal government-run health care. The current enlightened view among the really, really, REALLY smart people (by definition, Euro-Socialists only) is that no country is civilized unless its health care system is 100% government-run. The barbaric U.S. health care system is so horrifyingly terrible, in fact, that people from the "civilized" world routinely buy our pharmaceuticals and come here for life-saving treatment.

To his German self-styled moral superior, the Tea Partier responded that European nations with government-run socialized medicine can't afford their own social models; even Germany, itself, runs a deficit equal to 3 percent of GDP. The German reporter turned on his heel and walked away. Being an enlightened leftist means never having to acknowledge inconvenient truths.

A more effective, if politically incorrect (i.e., too devastatingly true for enlightened leftists to tolerate), occurred to the Tea Partier later: Germany had government-run universal healthcare at the same time they were herding six million Jews into ovens. Universal healthcare equals "civilized?" Lucky for the Euro-Socialist crowd, facts never interfere with propaganda.

Here's a brief look at the "civilized" world, domain of our Euro-Socialist moral betters.

• Germany. Parents who home-school their children are subject to arrest and prison, the children subject to seizure by the state. The Romeike family emigrated to the United States to escape such oppression, and were granted asylum. But the German authorities want to make an example of the Romeikes by extraditing them to Germany to face trial and jail. The "civilized" Obama administration is working feverishly to revoke the Romeikes' asylum and deport them to Germany.

• Canada. Canadians are highly chauvinistic about their socialized medicine. "You Americans," they love to jeer, often shortly after making a new American acquaintance, "have a terrible health-care system!" (Pleased to meet you, too.) They praise their own system to the heavens, one so wonderfully awesome that Canadians routinely come to the U.S.A. for life-saving treatment. Like the premier (equivalent to a U.S. state governor) of Newfoundland and Labrador ditched Toronto and had heart surgery in Florida. Or a former cabinet minister (equivalent to a U.S. cabinet secretary) who came to California for cancer treatment -- at her Canadian doctor's suggestion. Just like all those times important Americans go to Canada for cancer treatment and heart surgery -- oh, wait. That never happens.

• Great Britain. When Britain banned handguns in 1997, home invasions went through the roof. A home invasion is criminal entry to ransack a house while its occupants are present. Since it's a crime for law-abiding citizens to be armed, many people took to sleeping with hammers and baseball bats. (A sophomoric "humor" website found this hilarious.) In a Daily Telegraph web-poll, ignored by the elites, Britons overwhelmingly favor lifting the ban.

• While we're talking about Great Britain and weapons, a long jail term awaits anyone who falls afoul of Britain's restrictive and baffling knife laws. Even better: the cops -- not the courts -- determine a knife's legality. It's illegal to buy many knives available in a U.S. sporting goods store. Sleeping with hammers and cricket bats seems even less funny.

• Europe, in general, Great Britain specifically: bad teeth. Many Britons feel defensive and love to sneer at what they characterize as Americans' ridiculous obsession with dental health. Long-standing research shows that good dental health is important for overall health. Apparently, government-run health care miraculously negates science.

• Germany again. The 2011 tsunami in Japan caused a disaster at a Japanese nuclear power plant. Germany's powerful radical environmentalists pounced, and the German government began shutting down nuke plants as fast as they could, Germany apparently being vulnerable (who knew?) to tsunami and major earthquakes. Slight problem: nukes produced close to 25% of Germany's power, and there is now something of an energy crisis. Whoopsie.

• Europe, Summer 2003. Some 70,000 people, the majority of them elderly, perished in hot weather, almost 15,000 of them in uber-enlightened, uber-socialist France. Our infinitely more civilized European brethren shrug: we aren't used to heat, darn that Global Warming! (Or is it Global Cooling? Climate Change?) Tens of thousands of old folks baking to death -- very sad and all that, but let's not get distracted from the real crisis -- Global Warming! (Or whatever we're calling it this week.) Thought experiment: change the location to the U.S. (Hint: a decade later, the media would still be condemning the then-Republican president and Congress.)

• Great Britain again. Earlier this year, a cold snap killed 2,500, most of them pensioners -- i.e., senior citizens. Each year, winter weather kills well over 20,000 Britons, most of them elderly. Environmental taxes have made utilities unaffordable. Big government caused the mess, so of course big government has a solution: utility-bill grants -- i.e., welfare. (Obamacare also promises an "allowance" -- i.e., welfare -- for insurance premium costs. Hmmm.)

There we have it, life in the ultra-civilized, morally-advanced, non-American world, by definition totally superior to America because of government-run medicine. Membership in this elite bestows not just the blessings of DMV-style health care, but also the sophisticated societal conditions described above.

No, thanks.

posted October 22, 2013 10:27 AM            

They need Obamacare. I left the number for all the low info voters on the other thread

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posted October 22, 2013 12:47 PM            

I repeat, those who look down their nosesat all other countries as inferior, always seem the most afraid of hearing how foreigners see things.

posted October 22, 2013 12:57 PM            

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My point to IQ was to mind his own business

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YOU don't have the RIGHT to request or require anyone to do anything. IQ believes his "business" is tied to our business as do many of the people in this world.

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until he's dealt with the "Untouchables" problem in India and until he's dealt with the problem of "14 million slaves in India". Then IQ can tell us here in America what we should do..but not until that time.

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posted October 22, 2013 01:18 PM            

Who listens to the man who boasts about his own ignorance?

One factcheck: In germany children are required to go to school for FOUR WHOLE YEARS (6-10) where they learn to read, write and do math, mostly local history, and religion. As the monks used to say, by 7 a person is basically formed into the adult they will become(in this case, by their parents). There are no free preschools and from 11 on, ability and preference determine what further education will be had, vocational or academic .

another: Also in Germany healthcare programs have been in place since the 1880s. Austria is a different country.

& People die in extreme weather in the US as well. In England when utilities were national, they were a lot cheaper and there is a huge movement there to reinstate heat and light for all.

posted October 22, 2013 03:13 PM            

I think that IQ brought this up isn't bad at all, as the US unlike so many other countries does have that choice.

The big companies ruining the world, they already do that use their money to buy up worst than passports other people's lands, then monsanto, oil spill, nuclear mishap, and what usually used to be beautiful lands or super fertile one's all gone....they simply move out, and the nationals of whatever country, after having their culture destroyed are left to deal with something that hardly gave them anything but a temporary questionable job back (thanks to Monsanto for example the Gaucho culture, which is like the core of Argentinian identity is almost gone, and the meat isn't like it used to be as they took all the grasslands to do what they do on)...
so yeah...now when a middle class family, which just wants to work, and hopefully produce more stuff in the name of the country they have moved to, hence getting more goods exported and more money in...no one will care, a middle class family really can't impact the established system and identiy of a country that much, or they learn to adopt it.

Naturally the attractive places are western Europe and the US/Canada, because of the rights, the organization and the ease of travel that apparently 3rd world country people don't have.

(by the way wouldn't just ease of travel for anyone just make life easier for all? so that some people stop being insecure about others moving into their 'hood'....loads of money to be made out of tourists for sure, and a lot of so called '3rd world' countries have unbelievably loaded people...hence why places like the Seychelles and the Maldives have been getting almost all their money from it, as i was reading Russian and Arab billionaires who can't be bothered with Visa hassles just go to either of these and don't know rent a villa or something for absurd amount of money per night)

so yeah...until others realize there is money to be made by making touristic entry so easy (no problems, as ppl usually have to say where they are staying and have contacts so not easy to try and illegally stay)

then making permanent residence or quick citizenship may be an idea.

posted October 22, 2013 06:24 PM            

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Juni, if it's Italian, French or Spanish(or Castellano as i've been raised to call it really) just ask

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Perhaps IQ has duel citizenship

We should all care about global concerns rather it`s the economies or slaves.

posted October 22, 2013 08:08 PM            

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Originally posted by jwhop:
The view from heads up their as$es European Socialists. Guess what? It's the same view as our heads up their as$es Accidential American Socialists.

[b]October 22, 2013
The Euro-Socialist Death Spiral
By Mark Petrina

In a small but telling incident, a German journalist accosted a Tea Partier at the Supreme Court on the day the ObamaCare case was being decided. The German upbraided the Tea Party movement for opposing government-run health care. His tone was the standard condescension for enlightened Euro-moralizing about -- well, everything, but especially socialized medicine -- for the benefit of benighted Americans. In short, he behaved like an average Democrat.

An old fable describes the attitude of "civilized" Euro-Socialists -- and their U.S. counterparts, the Democrats -- toward the United States. A genie appears to two peasants and grants each a wish. The first wishes for a beautiful prize cow. The second, envying his neighbor's coming prosperity, wishes for the cow to drop dead on the spot.

Instead of getting their own cow, our "betters" keep wishing for ours to die. The Democrats eagerly agree, forcibly herding Americans into the Euro-Socialist death spiral -- for our own good, of course. Government knows best. This is especially of our health care system.

According to the German journalist -- echoing American liberals -- it is time for the USA to join the family of civilized nations by providing universal government-run health care. The current enlightened view among the really, really, REALLY smart people (by definition, Euro-Socialists only) is that no country is civilized unless its health care system is 100% government-run. The barbaric U.S. health care system is so horrifyingly terrible, in fact, that people from the "civilized" world routinely buy our pharmaceuticals and come here for life-saving treatment.

To his German self-styled moral superior, the Tea Partier responded that European nations with government-run socialized medicine can't afford their own social models; even Germany, itself, runs a deficit equal to 3 percent of GDP. The German reporter turned on his heel and walked away. Being an enlightened leftist means never having to acknowledge inconvenient truths.

A more effective, if politically incorrect (i.e., too devastatingly true for enlightened leftists to tolerate), occurred to the Tea Partier later: Germany had government-run universal healthcare at the same time they were herding six million Jews into ovens. Universal healthcare equals "civilized?" Lucky for the Euro-Socialist crowd, facts never interfere with propaganda.

Here's a brief look at the "civilized" world, domain of our Euro-Socialist moral betters.

• Germany. Parents who home-school their children are subject to arrest and prison, the children subject to seizure by the state. The Romeike family emigrated to the United States to escape such oppression, and were granted asylum. But the German authorities want to make an example of the Romeikes by extraditing them to Germany to face trial and jail. The "civilized" Obama administration is working feverishly to revoke the Romeikes' asylum and deport them to Germany.

• Canada. Canadians are highly chauvinistic about their socialized medicine. "You Americans," they love to jeer, often shortly after making a new American acquaintance, "have a terrible health-care system!" (Pleased to meet you, too.) They praise their own system to the heavens, one so wonderfully awesome that Canadians routinely come to the U.S.A. for life-saving treatment. Like the premier (equivalent to a U.S. state governor) of Newfoundland and Labrador ditched Toronto and had heart surgery in Florida. Or a former cabinet minister (equivalent to a U.S. cabinet secretary) who came to California for cancer treatment -- at her Canadian doctor's suggestion. Just like all those times important Americans go to Canada for cancer treatment and heart surgery -- oh, wait. That never happens.

• Great Britain. When Britain banned handguns in 1997, home invasions went through the roof. A home invasion is criminal entry to ransack a house while its occupants are present. Since it's a crime for law-abiding citizens to be armed, many people took to sleeping with hammers and baseball bats. (A sophomoric "humor" website found this hilarious.) In a Daily Telegraph web-poll, ignored by the elites, Britons overwhelmingly favor lifting the ban.

• While we're talking about Great Britain and weapons, a long jail term awaits anyone who falls afoul of Britain's restrictive and baffling knife laws. Even better: the cops -- not the courts -- determine a knife's legality. It's illegal to buy many knives available in a U.S. sporting goods store. Sleeping with hammers and cricket bats seems even less funny.

• Europe, in general, Great Britain specifically: bad teeth. Many Britons feel defensive and love to sneer at what they characterize as Americans' ridiculous obsession with dental health. Long-standing research shows that good dental health is important for overall health. Apparently, government-run health care miraculously negates science.

• Germany again. The 2011 tsunami in Japan caused a disaster at a Japanese nuclear power plant. Germany's powerful radical environmentalists pounced, and the German government began shutting down nuke plants as fast as they could, Germany apparently being vulnerable (who knew?) to tsunami and major earthquakes. Slight problem: nukes produced close to 25% of Germany's power, and there is now something of an energy crisis. Whoopsie.

• Europe, Summer 2003. Some 70,000 people, the majority of them elderly, perished in hot weather, almost 15,000 of them in uber-enlightened, uber-socialist France. Our infinitely more civilized European brethren shrug: we aren't used to heat, darn that Global Warming! (Or is it Global Cooling? Climate Change?) Tens of thousands of old folks baking to death -- very sad and all that, but let's not get distracted from the real crisis -- Global Warming! (Or whatever we're calling it this week.) Thought experiment: change the location to the U.S. (Hint: a decade later, the media would still be condemning the then-Republican president and Congress.)

• Great Britain again. Earlier this year, a cold snap killed 2,500, most of them pensioners -- i.e., senior citizens. Each year, winter weather kills well over 20,000 Britons, most of them elderly. Environmental taxes have made utilities unaffordable. Big government caused the mess, so of course big government has a solution: utility-bill grants -- i.e., welfare. (Obamacare also promises an "allowance" -- i.e., welfare -- for insurance premium costs. Hmmm.)

There we have it, life in the ultra-civilized, morally-advanced, non-American world, by definition totally superior to America because of government-run medicine. Membership in this elite bestows not just the blessings of DMV-style health care, but also the sophisticated societal conditions described above.

No, thanks.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/10/the_euro-socialist_death_spiral.html [/B]

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Brilliant. Your grasp is so great that you blow the usual suspects away. They can't keep up with you from their little, self centered holes

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posted October 22, 2013 10:53 PM            

YOU don't have the RIGHT to request or require anyone to do anything. IQ believes his "business" is tied to our business as do many of the people in this world...acoustic

until he's dealt with the "Untouchables" problem in India and until he's dealt with the problem of "14 million slaves in India". Then IQ can tell us here in America what we should do..but not until that time.

You also don't get to put conditions on how or when people are able to post. Get over yourself. You're in no position to act self-righteous."...acoustic

I don't care what IQ believes acoustic nor am I putting conditions on IQs posts here.

But, if IQ and other foreign nationals are going to give advice to America, they should plan on getting slammed on the bigger problems which exist in their own nations.

Imagine this, there are a large group of social outcasts in India called the "untouchables" who are routinely deprived of any rights by Indian society; who can be murdered, raped, robbed, beaten and abused with no consequences by those committing the acts. Yeah, imagine that...and imagine IQ here giving advice to America while that's going on in his own nation.

Imagine this, there are 14 million citizens in India who are being held in slavery and yet, instead of attempting to set those poor Indians free, IQ is here giving advice to America.

posted October 23, 2013 01:41 AM            

Maybe you should not be criticizing or advising so-called leftists until your own party digs itself out of the rubble! There's no need to get so defensive and rude just because someone likes exchanging ideas.

posted October 23, 2013 06:23 AM            

Anyway i'm not big on 'selling passports' either. but trust me it already happens, and not by good people...alot of very rich people they're not good, where they go there money from is shady...yet for a certain amount to the right pocket ...congratulations you've got yourself a new 'national'....

anyway how is that any worst though than a government having to sell itself to companies like Monsanto or the next oil spiller?? those companies give a job to one or two people while cancelling out the jobs of hundreds, and the money u know once it reaches a politician ....good luck trying to get it out of there hands...

Austria has a citizenship thingy like the one mentioned however it's very very very few people that got it that way, as first they need a big amount, secondly they really dont just want anyone with money, they do a good background check, and many mafia bosses from around the world had been refused.

they also want to make sure whatever business this is, it is profitable and giving jobs to people already unemployed there.

But yeah i'm weary of this, but also don't think it should only be seen in a bad light...but ofcourse the pros and cons of it to the local populace should be weighed on first, or else everyone will move to the west and we'll get empty counries in some place (or almost empty)

on the other hand, just make travel easy, will make a big difference, and i think stop people from wanting to relocate. I once exchanged emails with people who do this, and asked why in god's name would real rich people care, as they kind of own the world and the answer was simple "they don't wan the hassle of a visa, they just want to get in and out, and travel for business when the thing comes out without fearing a waste of time)

so yeah, this isn't a US problem only many countries around the world are going through some weird economic thingy...but no need to be angry...

posted October 23, 2013 10:06 AM            

i don't know if anyone here heard, but yes it is annoying, and this is what the US seems to do around the world in the name of it's people "Europe do this....Asian countries speak to these...oh i'm not talking to that 'b*tch of a country' so i'm expecting you all to stop talking to or we'll bully you to"

posted October 23, 2013 11:19 AM            

Did you get this bit of folklore out of a CrackerJacks box or "Fruitloops"?

I am unaware of France committing any significant troops to fight along side Americans in the War for Independence...or to fight in America against the British during the War for Independence. They did commit some naval forces to help keep British warships bottled up in harbor in America.

I am aware America sent envoys to France seeking loans for arms and supplies. I'm also aware those funds were not forthcoming for years as the war dragged on. Those funds were finally granted when an American victory seemed certain.

Which is not to say France played no beneficial role in America's War for Independence but it was indirect.

Further, France was paid back at least 100 fold when American forces landed in France in WWI. 50,000 Americans were killed in battle and an additional 60,000 died from other causes in France and Europe in WWI.

Does this quote refresh your memory?

posted October 23, 2013 11:27 AM            

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Originally posted by jwhop:
"***ahem...i think anyone with real French blood is okay giving a bit of comment on the US, as [b]French blood was spilled for American independence ....yeah yeah it was just to spite Britian, but the US did get independence while France went bankrupt, and French people did die for the US..."....NoRainNoRainbows

Did you get this bit of folklore out of a CrackerJacks box or "Fruitloops"?

I am unaware of France committing any troops to fight along side Americans in the War for Independence...or to fight in America against the British during the War for Independence.

I am aware America sent envoys to France seeking loans for arms and supplies. I'm also aware those funds were not forthcoming for years as the war dragged on. Those funds were finally granted when an American victory seemed certain.

Which is not to say France played no beneficial role in America's War for Independence but it was indirect.

Further, France was paid back at least 100 fold when American forces landed in France in WWI. 50,000 Americans were killed in battle and an additional 60,000 died from other causes in France and Europe in WWI.

Does this quote refresh your memory?

“Nous voila, Lafayette"[/B]

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posted October 23, 2013 12:45 PM            

The french not only sent money, arms, gunpowder and uniforms, but TROOPS.

Perhaps they were a bit slow in joining battle, but your comparison, WWII, shows us as every bit as slow to helo our "friends"...until Pearl Harbour got the people behind the effort.

So not only did the French send MEN, they also supplied us with essential firepower (earlier on) without which we would surely have lost.

posted October 23, 2013 12:58 PM            

Gaslighting Alert

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posted October 23, 2013 01:13 PM            

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Originally posted by Catalina:
Jwhop, google it ... It's been a long time since American history class, and sometimes our memories are less than accurate.

The french not only sent money, arms, gunpowder and uniforms, but TROOPS.

Perhaps they were a bit slow in joining battle, but your comparison, WWII, shows us as every bit as slow to helo our "friends"...until Pearl Harbour got the people behind the effort.

So not only did the French send MEN, they also supplied us with essential firepower (earlier on) without which we would surely have lost.

It isn't necessary to prove we did everything ourselves to feel justifisble pride in our avcomplishments, is it?

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Glad someone was awake in that class ...at least now we know what educational level some people are coming from.

But that is still no excuse as i've seen people who didn't get a chance to finish high school, blow other people's minds by how brilliant they are and how much they actually do know. so yeah, thanks for the commenting!