posted October 24, 2013 11:23 PM            

Cruse is an much an authority as the so called historians you and acoustic quoted.

There are no American records of French soldiers being killed aiding the American Revolution.

posted October 24, 2013 11:57 PM            

However you said no historian(which your man apparently is not ) not no American records, and his reply says "no information" in other words he found nothing...including this

(Translated)
** 1,000 officers and 10,000 French soldiers (volunteers and regular troops) fought on the North American continent. 2113 lost their lives. [To this figure must be added the loss of the Royal Navy, both in battle during the various "campaigns", which would amount to 1/6 of the workforce engaged and therefore a minimum of more than 5,000 men (Ed)]. http://www.cincinnatidefrance.fr/la-guerre-d-independance/les-forces-en-presence/204-la-balance-des-forces-en-presence

so his research is just a little lazy doncha think?

As to underclasses of Americans, yes there is hue and cry and you call that bloviation and whining generally. Yes they have recourse to the law, thanks to liberals and those you call socialists although frequently that is denied them even today.

posted October 25, 2013 12:07 AM            

Which is not to say there were none but rather, none could be found.

But, how does any of this let pire and IQ off the hook for spouting off about the United States...when they have far worse problems in their own nations to correct?

Perhaps you'll recognize this...but I doubt it.

posted October 25, 2013 12:15 AM            

I understand what you are saying, jwhop, but just because we have problems here doesn't mean we can't be interested in theirs, and vice versa. IQ's OP was a suggestion I'm not partial to but it's not hurting you or any of us to discuss this stuff, is it?

America having the rather large worldwide presence it does implies we bother ourselves with other people's business quite a lot, and to our impoverishment at the moment. We have spent way too much policing and coercing other countries, not to mention destroying their environments and killing thousands of innocents.

WHETHER THAT IS RIGHT or wrong, it does kind of give people a reason to interest themselves in what goes on here at home, and we have hardly solved all our probs before going into theirs. Have we?

posted October 25, 2013 04:57 AM            

Jwhop? i don't know sometimes i feel that u are capable of making a point, but you come on with such an aggressive vibe no one is going to read that...also other people didn't get their right to speak from you, so you simply can't take it from them.

And yes like CAt, said the US not only tells other countries what to do, but even sends troops has an extensive spy network and even spies on it's own friends as what happened with EU presidents.

Some people don't want the US to fall, as a lot of economies worldwide depend on it....on the other hand i can see Russia just looking at it's watch and tapping it's foot as she waits for it to happen, as that is when her old glory will officially be recognized once again. The only country which at one point in time could be looked on as an equal or just as strong if not stronger than the US (Remember thousands died here and there in WW2 however 26 MILLION soviet deaths, was the real reason that war ended, and once again too bad how East Europe had to pay for it being on the border)

And yeah France did practically give the US significant help in independence including people who died for it and really got nothing back in return,(too bad couldn't also export the education system...i'm not just saying this but people who go from a French school to and English one always do way much better than those who go from an English school to a French one,)

posted October 25, 2013 10:41 AM            

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Originally posted by Catalina:
Thanks for proving my point, and why edit when you are making new posts?

Your anecdotes from British rags are just that.
I know someone who had her baby on the stairs on the way to the door where the ambulance was arriving less than twenty minutes after her first labour pain and call for a ride. SO WHAT? You obviously knownothing about the things that can happen outside anyone's control when labour starts.

Dental plans here are expensive and exclude many treatments too. The continued privatization of the NHS has definitely caused deterioration over the last 30 years. And in the dental field in England I experienced a wide range of services...some dentists milk the system, true, and some make it work for their patients. I had gum surgery that saved a tooth by my dentist, @ the cost of less than a visit to a dentists office here, where I was referred to a specialist who would only consider whole mouth treatments totalling thousands.

We can keep going back and forth, or recognuze that there are successes and failures on both sides. It jusy so happens that it costs more here, good or bad

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Ah i know well about the NHS, it was such a good system at the times you quoted, and that is why i know a lot of Brits who didn't need to, but would send tax money back to their country every year (if they earn their money abroad they are exempt from it, this is changing as they are thinking of taxing those making money in rich countries, as the UK is more bankrupt than Greece atm, however they are more organized and 'powerful' enough to keep quiet about it for now...also never joined the Euro so that helped them a bit)

but like you say in recent years, the NHS is no longer what it used to be however it isn't as bad as in the US.

What is this i hear that a lot of people don't get proper care if they don't have insurance...and there were stories i'd double check if true or not, of people collapsing at hospital doors, and no one helping them as it's cheaper just not to??....compare that to Europe where if you see a person who needs help even if on the side of the road after an accident, and if you can help but don't, even if you're not a doctor, the police would take such people in and press charges for not helping someone who clearly needed it.

Though i don't know if this insurance in the US is such a great idea for all, as if the news i see here isn't lying, it's a bit awful how much they are charging and how they are refusing medication to some...(i am totally against forcing people to take insurance if they don't need to, as i'm resident in a place where now by law u want to stay, u must get it, and the thing is that it costs me more, than it would have if i went to see a top notch expensive doctor if i got sick........even worst i haven't used it, and wouldn't use it, so it's like a 'hidden' tax of sorts....

boy is this thread taking a new life of it's own.

posted October 25, 2013 11:51 AM            

People have passion when they see their beloved country going down the tubes into the SEWER.

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posted October 25, 2013 01:34 PM            

Take for instance Michelle Bachmann, who has announced she will not run for Congress again, largely due to the fact that she couldn't get reelected. She is BAYING for Obama's impeachment, apparently thinking the House can do this on their own.

What a surprise that Ms Bachmann herself is under investigation for fraudulent use of campaign funds http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/07/26/house-ethics-committee-investigating-michele-bachmann/

posted October 25, 2013 11:46 PM            

And, foreign nationals come here, blend in, comment on topics far and wide. No problem.

Until they attempt to tell Americans what they should think, do, say and feel.

That's the point at which I'm going to dig into their own problems at home and rub their noses in their own glaring problems.

posted October 26, 2013 06:45 AM            

jwhop, the man who shoot before ... and then accusing others to have started...

check back, no foreigners (in this thread IQ and I) did say ANYTHING negative against the USA..

posted October 26, 2013 09:03 AM            

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Originally posted by Catalina:
Doesn't sound like her, she is a TROO PATRIOT lol, not a "Citizen of the World". But I don't know

Which countries are you a dual in NoRain, if you don't mind saying?

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Ah i don't mind at all, just write to me on the email on any of the forums i moderate (health and healing and TTLG)and i'll tell you ...technically i've got 3.....

oh and it is her... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-18011296

hmm if she got it and didn't live in Switzerland then they did something,(might be the real reason she gave it up away from the patriotic bruhaha) as Switzerland didn't even give the children of swiss nationals the passport for a while if the other parent is foreign, unless they lived in Switzerland for a few years in their childhood...maybe that changed, but i know as i lived there once upon a time...

posted October 26, 2013 09:06 AM            

Pire, You are the king of useless anger so you do perfect projection

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posted October 26, 2013 12:01 PM            

So Marcus is a dual too? She doesn't mind that she is married to a citizen of the world but she doesn't want anyone to throw the charge at her.

posted October 26, 2013 10:24 PM            

Well pire, I can't recall when you've ever had anything good to say about America...except perhaps something good to say about the little Marxist Messiah O'Bomber who, like Socialists everywhere...including France, couldn't find their own as$es with both hands.

Hollande is a perfect example but by no means the only one! One wonders if Hollande will manage to finish his term in office before French citizens bring out the guillotine.

posted October 26, 2013 10:33 PM            

People dying in Britain before they can get a doctor appointment are well documented.

People having to pull their own teeth because they couldn't get in to see a dentist is well documented.

Women forced to give birth in hospital parking lots or at home because their hospital didn't have room to take them is well documented.

Medical murder by doctors under the NICE provisions is well documented...and chronicled at length by BRITISH DOCTORS working for the British Health Care System. It's a national scandal.

So Catalina/katatonic, you can continue to duck, bob, weave and evade the truth about the Socialist Single Payer system in Britain but the truth is out and it will do you no good.

posted October 27, 2013 07:58 AM            

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Well pire, I can't recall when you've ever had anything good to say about America

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the very fact that I post here, that I interact with US citizens ( and many I truly appreciate) that I do so in a foreign language, should speak volumes...

I could of course express my love at every post I write, or just keep SHOWING my interest by, me, posting

posted October 27, 2013 07:59 AM            

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Originally posted by AcousticGod:
I go away for a few days and Jwhop and Ami get totally out of hand. Ridiculous.

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Well you know it is their thread so they have to take control of where they want it to go lest you think of discussing something they don't want you to discuss, that is why they started it in the first place

posted October 27, 2013 09:02 AM            

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