posted May 07, 2017 08:53 AM            

Tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands and perhaps millions of Marxist Socialist Progressives continue to hysterically rave and foam at the mouth over the new health care bill...and, there's no coverage in the bill for Pre-Existing Progressive Hysteria.

How could I have gotten it so wrong?

AHCA Fails to Cover Pre-Existing Progressive Hysteria
David Catron
May 5, 2017

Our increasingly unhinged friends on the left will have to pay for their own medication.

The Republicans cruelly ignored a rapidly spreading epidemic as they crafted the partial repeal of Obamacare that passed in the House yesterday: They failed to include any provision in AHCA that provides mental health benefits for balmy liberals whose thin tether to sanity has been severed by the success of the GOP and President Trump. The latter’s victory in November and his successful collaboration with Senate Republicans on the confirmation of Neal Gorsuch for SCOTUS already had them gibbering. Their conditions have now been exacerbated by the passage of AHCA, yet it provides no subsidy to pay for their Seroquel.

And they are in need of anti-psychotic medication. Elizabeth Warren, whose multiple-personality disorder occasionally manifests itself in the form of a verbose U.S. senator and other times as a remarkably pale indigenous princess popularly known as Fauxcahontas, loosed the following war whoop on Twitter: “#AHCA will devastate Americans’ healthcare. Families will go bankrupt. People will die.” On the latter point, she may be onto something. Some of the outbursts our progressive friends are foolhardy enough to put in print (or bytes) are causing so much mirth in the Catron house that I may end up in the Emergency Room.

Take Christine Teigen (please), as Henny Youngman would have phrased it. She literally, and I mean “literally,” advised her Twitter followers that enduring President Trump will require additional medication: “tired of this manically insane, incompetent president and this dumpster fire administration i’m gonna have to go on another med.” No doubt Ms. Teigen’s use of all lowercase text is connected to her devotion to the poetry of e.e. cummings. Perhaps that sophisticated sensibility is why she feels the need to “have a tooth shaved down because of crippling anxiety.” What does that have to with the president? “I blame trump.”

But Teigen is, after all, a model. So, “thinking about stuff” really isn’t her primary skill. Let’s turn, then, to our elected representatives. They would presumably be able handle yesterday’s vote with more dignity. Connecticut is a beautiful state filled with sensible people, so Sen. Chris Murphy (D-CT) would naturally take a far more circumspect view, right? The vote provoked this tweet from Murphy: “House GOP, I hope you slept well last night … you will have the death of thousands on your conscience forever.” As Corporal Agarn from F Troop, played by the immortal Larry Storch, would have phrased it: “That makes sense!”

Murphy’s response did indeed make sense to a lot of Democrats, including Democratic National Committee chairman Tom Perez. The chairman, knowing what was coming yesterday, launched what former President Bush would have styled a preemptive strike on the bloodthirsty Republicans who went through such an arduous and often contentious process to honor their pledge to repeal Obamacare. A week ago, Perez and his fellow Democrats — in Congress and the legacy “news” media — gleefully mocked the Republicans for not being able to muster enough votes to pass AHCA. On Wednesday, the chairman’s tune suddenly changed:

Trump and Republicans will own every preventable death, every untreated illness, and every bankruptcy that American families will be forced to bear if this bill becomes law and millions lose access to affordable health care. The 24 million who would lose access to health care is not just a number — it represents fathers, mothers, sisters, brothers and even newborn babies with heart diseases or cancers that are too costly to treat without affordable insurance.

The 24 million is a made-up number, of course, as is the preposterous insinuation that Obamacare provides “affordable insurance.” But this is the chairman of the Democratic National Committee. Adherence to or even knowledge of facts is not part of his job:

Trump and Republicans are telling the parents of children with special needs that they’re on their own. They’re telling insurance companies to go ahead and use lifetime limits to decide when someone with a chronic illness has had enough health care.… It seems the only people who will truly benefit from this legislation are the uber-rich, who will pocket hundreds of billions in tax breaks. Trump and Republicans will be held accountable.

And what of the umpire of our political process, the Fourth Estate? It is just as dead as Obamacare. One of the oldest news outlets in the nation published this yesterday evening:

The health-care bill that the House of Representatives passed this afternoon … is an abomination. If there has been a piece of legislation in our lifetimes that boiled over with as much malice and indifference to human suffering, I can’t recall what it might have been.… It is no exaggeration to say that if it were to become law, this bill would kill significant numbers of Americans.

posted May 07, 2017 11:50 PM            

Socialized programs that are tax mandates are effectively doomed to ineffectiveness, if not outright failure (see exhibit: VA). The billions spent on trying to invent a whole new healthcare system (even just the buggy website) would have been better spent on helping the tiny minority of people who needed the help pre-Obamacare. It really was a minor problem that has now ballooned into a monster. Removing the variety of options and negotiating power from the consumers only created a federal monopoly, and as expected, the cost for your average American doubled in less than three years. When your monthly premiums cost more than your mortgage, and there's no other choice than for the government to steal your money on Tax Day, the system is clearly broken. I claim zero exemptions on my tax return (this means I pay the max tax amount up front from each paycheck), yet was still going to owe nearly a thousand dollars as a punitive tax. Soon enough, I would not get a tax return at all, and would have the IRS knocking on my door!

This is a better solution, trying to salvage the scraps of the healthcare system now, rather than waiting the two years or so for it to completely bankrupt. I still think the federal government should not have its fingers in our personal insurance choices in the FIRST place, but its a start.

posted May 08, 2017 12:11 AM            

Meanwhile the Repubs are planning to ignore the minority Senstors on this.. want out constitution designed to PREVENT THE TYRANNY OF THE MAJORITY?

The hypocrisy of those who sobbed about the very same is ludicrous and doesn't wash.

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/332312-mcconnell-senate-healt hcare-will-be-a-simple-majority-vote-situation

We have to discuss with those who disagree? Oh NOs Mommy!!!!

posted May 08, 2017 01:00 AM            

As for the cancer bit, that is EXACTLY why we should never have had the federal government try to socialize medicine. That is actually a basic premise for many insurance contracts in the past, and was easily covered by many plans, and was affordable at the same time. Same as accidental dismemberment causing permanent disability or other things like that. These were the options you used to talk about and negotiate with your insurance companies with. If you wanted to neglect that coverage, your choice, your risk, and your very own accountability.

Today, you can still receive treatment, but regardless if you did or didn't have insurance, you get price gauged either way. Either you, or the others who visit that hospital (as do those in poverty, such as homeless folks). People say it's the rich who are benefiting from Obamacare getting repealed, but it isn't. The wealthy can easily afford medical care out-of-pocket whenever they feel like it, as needed. It's the middle class getting strangled. The so-called "silent majority " will ALWAYS lash out when taxes get involved. Taxes sparked both the American Revolution and the Civil War. It's a sure-fire way to get the people's attention.

Nothing is ever free. Ever. That's the entire point. To make it affordable for everyone, instead of forcing everyone to buy the entire pie, let them buy what they can actually afford. The leftovers can be dealt with in a different way. We need to focus on finding out how to do that instead.

posted May 08, 2017 04:23 AM            

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Originally posted by Blind writer:
Personal insults are unnecessary, and counterproductive.

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posted May 08, 2017 02:59 PM            

Not going to argue whether anything is ever free. Its not part of the topic really. But I see no reason why i should pay for Dick Cheneys heart treatments and not for my neighbours.

posted May 08, 2017 08:06 PM            

GEORGE HARRISON LYRICS

"Isn't It A Pity (Version 1)"

Isn't it a pity
Now, isn't it a shame
How we break each other's hearts
And cause each other pain
How we take each other's love
Without thinking anymore
Forgetting to give back
Isn't it a pity

Some things take so long
But how do I explain
When not too many people
Can see we're all the same
And because of all their tears
Their eyes can't hope to see
The beauty that surrounds them
Isn't it a pity

Isn't it a pity
Isn't is a shame
How we break each other's hearts
And cause each other pain
How we take each other's love
Without thinking anymore
Forgetting to give back
Isn't it a pity

Forgetting to give back
Isn't it a pity
Forgetting to give back
Now, isn't it a pity

posted May 09, 2017 11:44 PM            

From the very same place everyone else gets health care. From doctors and hospitals.

Blind writer makes a valid point. Health insurance DOES NOT equate to healthcare.

Pre-existing conditions are covered in the new health care plan...to the tune of $140 BILLION.

posted May 10, 2017 02:35 AM            

I was referring to the free care supposedly due anyone regardless of ability to pay, mentioned by blind writer. When was the last time you tried availing yourself of serious care without insurance jwhop? Or even healing for cancer with Medicare alone?

The last time i saw s doctor without insurance he warned me that tests would cost thousands, talked at me for 10 minutes without examining or properly questioning me, and billed me. Did i have to pay on the spot? No. Did i get healthcare? No.

Its true it could have been free if i wanted to run away...or gave a false name.. not my style. But then it wasn't tens of thousands of dollars either.

And it's not the govt that makes the process of treatment so high. People were dying for lack of money before the ACA.

Did the ACA fix it? Not for many. I never liked it much either. It has been 7 years it could have been ironed out but nobody could think of anything better.. and a lot of people prefer it to the past

posted May 10, 2017 01:40 PM            

I repeat

posted May 10, 2017 05:34 PM            

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Originally posted by jwhop:
So much for leftist bullshiiite that people without insurance will die.

You just admitted they will be treated. Of course they'll get a damned bill. What the hell do you expect when someone delivers any service to you? Free housing. Free food. Free medical. Free transportation. Free university education. Free cars. Free televisions. You sound like one of Bernie The Commie's supporters.

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What if they can't afford that damned bill? That's what the ******* problem is, and you know it. and more extensive treatment, not one office or ER visit? That can cost hundreds, if not more, by the way.

posted May 10, 2017 05:35 PM            

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Originally posted by Node:

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Yes!!

posted May 10, 2017 06:02 PM            

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Originally posted by Catalina:

I repeat

When did you last receive treatment without paying for it?

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