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Topic: Biden Or Trump: Who Will Win...and Why
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Belage
Knowflake Posts: 3477
From: USA
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 04, 2020 09:51 AM
  
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Originally posted by teasel:
And I don't like how much those of you here will LOVE me being nervous, and would love more "liberal tears". It's gross.
I don't know you personally, teasel, and you don't know me. I can assure you that while I will rejoice a Trump victory, I am not relishing feasting on "liberal tears". There are people I absolutely LOVE who have been brainwashed by the anti-Trump media onslaught of the past 4 years, and I am concerned for their emotional well being if the election does not go their way. The TDS is unfortunately very real. IP: Logged |
shura
Knowflake Posts: 2592
From: kamaloka
Registered: Jun 2009
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posted November 04, 2020 10:57 AM
Absolutely ZERO Voter Fraud.
If there is any rigging or fraud possibility, then Dems would have rigged to win Texas and Florida, considering the narrow difference.
Because that's not how 3rd world nations rig elections. Consider your typical Central/South American election ... the traditional maneuver is to wait until the last minute then magically 'find' exactly how many votes are needed to put your candidate over the edge.
Americans should learn right quick how this game operates because we will be seeing more of it. The genie is out of the bottle now and there is likely no putting her back in. IP: Logged |
SecretGeek
Knowflake Posts: 2517
From: Dallas
Registered: Nov 2013
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posted November 04, 2020 11:08 AM
For another fraud example, go to Trump's Twitter feed.He retweeted another person's catch of a vote update all going to Biden. That is definitely evidence. Twitter will likely delete it, if they already haven't, but I have copies. Of course, they will claim Photoshop. I'm sure there will be many cases of fraud proven in court by those attempting a coup again. IP: Logged |
SecretGeek
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From: Dallas
Registered: Nov 2013
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posted November 04, 2020 11:34 AM
There can easily be a state with more votes than people registered to vote. But it will all come out in the Supreme Court in several months or years with Judge Amy Barrett deciding. Meanwhile, until they catch the fraudsters and get a few to rat for lenient sentences, there's a chance Pelosi can be acting President, believe it or not. IP: Logged |
MonteCristo
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posted November 04, 2020 12:06 PM
How can a state legally have more votes than registered voters?IP: Logged |
SecretGeek
Knowflake Posts: 2517
From: Dallas
Registered: Nov 2013
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posted November 04, 2020 12:06 PM
Fraud.IP: Logged |
MonteCristo
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posted November 04, 2020 12:10 PM
So wouldn’t that automatically negate all of the votes that were put in from unregistered voters? Seems like a quick process?IP: Logged |
SecretGeek
Knowflake Posts: 2517
From: Dallas
Registered: Nov 2013
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posted November 04, 2020 12:20 PM
They control the system.Meaning, they can figure any issue out and take action before it becomes "official". But even if Trump was a winner in one of the states in question, they can just not certify the results as being official. The only way I see the election being settled is the Supreme Court. IP: Logged |
SecretGeek
Knowflake Posts: 2517
From: Dallas
Registered: Nov 2013
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posted November 04, 2020 12:42 PM
The Supreme Court can issue any state to comply with an order to independently verify that people actually exist that voted.And that they voted for the person in question under oath. Thousands can go to prison, but they can get about 10 of the biggest fraudsters and let the others free. IP: Logged |
shura
Knowflake Posts: 2592
From: kamaloka
Registered: Jun 2009
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posted November 04, 2020 12:42 PM
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Originally posted by MonteCristo:
How can a state legally have more votes than registered voters?
Because some states allow for election day registration. Those same day registrations wont immediately show on the registration rolls.
Usually this doesnt cause an apparent issue, because 100% of registered voters do not actually show up to vote. Simplified, say I'm registered to vote, but I sit this one out. You are not registered but show up on election day, register and vote. Numbers wash. What we are seeing in some counties ... important counties ... is 90-100% voter turnout. That's a little suspicious
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MonteCristo
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posted November 04, 2020 01:09 PM
So what is the point of registration, then, if one can simply walk up and vote without being registered? Don’t they check your ID and check your registration status upon arriving at your polling station?IP: Logged |
shura
Knowflake Posts: 2592
From: kamaloka
Registered: Jun 2009
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posted November 04, 2020 01:43 PM
My state doesnt allow for election day registration. I think maybe 20 states currently offer it.You will be required to show id and/or proof of residence. IP: Logged |
SecretGeek
Knowflake Posts: 2517
From: Dallas
Registered: Nov 2013
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posted November 04, 2020 01:47 PM
If folks can steal millions from programs like Covid PPP targeted for businesses, they can likely easily slide in several hundred thousand votes for deceased people, for example.But volume likely only through the mail. IP: Logged |
teasel
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From: http://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?action=viewprofile;username=u36170365
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 04, 2020 02:23 PM
http://twitter.com/elienyc/status/1324065491632226304?s=21
http://twitter.com/kumailn/status/1324007567849259010?s=21
http://twitter.com/benjy/status/1324063308006092801?s=21
^^ she was right four years ago. IP: Logged |
PhoenixRising
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Registered: May 2011
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posted November 04, 2020 02:35 PM
No personal responsibility of the problems being faced and always blaming the others is a weakness of people of any race. Trump is showing a poor lead by example quality to the Americans. Gosh! if he wins 2024 will be far worser than 2020 with the financial reset going on as we speak. IP: Logged |
shura
Knowflake Posts: 2592
From: kamaloka
Registered: Jun 2009
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posted November 04, 2020 02:45 PM
having a look at teasel's first link ....Elie Mystal
@ElieNYC
Folks, I'm feeling better than I did at 5 am. We are a deeply racist country and yet we likely defeated a deeply racist president who makes the racists feel strong.
OF COURSE it was a close thing, because a majority of white people in this country are trash. *the majority of white people in this country are trash* Did you hear that, teasel? Do you agree? Do you believe this sort of rhetoric - from a privileged blue check journalist no less - is anything other than hateful and divisive? How does this help the country? How does this help the people?
And what is the remedy, do you suppose? What are Elie and her friends going to do about all those no good evil very bad white folks? Once they are fully dehumanized trash ... what to do what to do?  hmmm Bonus question ... Elie Mystal
@ElieNYC
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BUT WE OVERCAME (where Black people were allowed to help in states where black didn't have to fight white people and people who identify as white people all by themselves) Who are the mysterious "people who identify as white?" but aren't white? IP: Logged |
shura
Knowflake Posts: 2592
From: kamaloka
Registered: Jun 2009
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posted November 04, 2020 02:52 PM
for anyone wondering,, the replies under Elie's post are chock full of groveling white and "fellow white' people beating their hair shirts and trying to outdo each other's ostentatious displays of self hatred it's a sad sight to see IP: Logged |
shura
Knowflake Posts: 2592
From: kamaloka
Registered: Jun 2009
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posted November 04, 2020 02:55 PM
teasel, if this is the dark and twisted crap you are reading on a regular basis, yes, mental imbalance and emotional illness is indeed inevitable.IP: Logged |
iQ
Moderator Posts: 6062
From: Lyra
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 04, 2020 03:07 PM
As a Coach, I can detect in you SecretGeek, a display of "Blame the Winner" Negative Attitude when your team loses, the very same attitude that a big section of Anti-Trump People showed in 2017. They thought Putin's hackers Rigged the Election Voting Machines. Well, 66 Million+ Votes for Trump in this election proves that there has not been, is not there, and will likely never be a massive,sophisticated Voter Fraud in America. This after a terrible COVID19 breakout killed 300,000+ Americans.1000s of Members of Both Parties keep an Eagle Eye on the proceedings. These days there is an impeccable Surveillance System as well. Police are almost 100% Conservative, so many State Legislatures are GOP. Impossible that they will permit a Fraud. The only "Gaming" that can happen is at the Institutional Framework Level, by Gerrymandering Districts or disenfranchising legitimate Voters. And true Winners can overcome that as well by Mobilization, planning and a smart strategy of execution. The Winner of 2020 Elections is the Smarter Party. Give due credit to whoever wins.
I am just full of praise for the System that respects all Voters and counts all votes of US Citizens, such a Privilege this is. Why denigrate the very Democracy that has kept USA as World Number 1 for Centuries. A Section of the "New Age" Groups of course "Seeded" this irrational hatred of fellow Americans who are Liberal. Greg Prescott for one, I will not be shy of naming such people. He was hoping to see "Liberal Tears" after creating a website on 5th Dimensional Consciousness. He wanted a Trump Landslide to see Millenials suffer, LGBT Activists weep, Women's Rights taken away etc . Such pettiness and he dares to speak of 5th D. This is Lower Astral behavior if one has such a desire to see fellow humanity suffer based on electoral choices. And then we have the QAnon Scum. They claim to have a Hillary CLinton "Face Carving" Demonic Video which they will never release to public and allow terrible things to continue happening to children as a "Strategy" by Trump. How do such people live with themselves?
Instead let all sides communicate. Let every Democrat Activist have a conversation with the Rural Voters who Vote for Trump. Rural Folk and Blue Collar Workers do not hate the Progressives, they must be missing something sorely in their ife which Dems or Left Wing or Centrists or Rinos are failing to pick up and are failing to address.
They are voting for a Trump to Signal to others that they need to be listened to. So listen to them and soon have a much greater American Society, which is the need for the Planet to stave of Psychopath Dictators in Asia/Europe/Africa who will use a Weak and Divided USA as an excuse to commit Genocides on their People.
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iQ
Moderator Posts: 6062
From: Lyra
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 04, 2020 03:19 PM
Belage wrote:
<<That is an interesting comment, IQ. Which country in Europe do you know of that closed airports in February 2020?
I do remember that Trump put travel ban from China on January 30, for which he was criticized: >>
None, and they all suffered. But Trump knew in January 1st Week itself. The move to ban Chinese Flights was excellent, but to let Chinese come from Europe? I mean that is like closing the front door and leaving a 100 Open Windows. Then he goes to India in February, then says the Virus will disappear in April etc etc etc. Buck stops with Leaders. Upto 300,000 extra Americans died ahead of time on his watch [235K direct from COVID], and a Leader takes ownership, else he is not a Leader.1000 9-11s, and not one official Memorial. I went to 2 Vigils for 9-11 when I was in American in 2002. That was how much American Leadership valued American Life back then. Now 300K are just casual stats?
What Mind Control/Magic is this to devolve Empathy 100 times from the average American Leader?IP: Logged |
PhoenixRising
Knowflake Posts: 1196
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Registered: May 2011
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posted November 04, 2020 03:27 PM
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Section of the "New Age" Groups of course "Seeded" this irrational hatred of fellow Americans who are Liberal. Greg Prescott for one, I will not be shy of naming such people. He was hoping to see "Liberal Tears" after creating a website on 5th Dimensional Consciousness. He wanted a Trump Landslide to see Millenials suffer, LGBT Activists weep, Women's Rights taken away etc . Such pettiness and he dares to speak of 5th D. This is Lower Astral behavior if one has such a desire to see fellow humanity suffer based on electoral choices. And then we have the QAnon Scum. They claim to have a Hillary CLinton "Face Carving" Demonic Video which they will never release to public and allow terrible things to continue happening to children as a "Strategy" by Trump. How do such people live with themselves?
I never understood such people who claim to be spiritually advanced than others and openly supporting Trump. Perhaps they are listening to some AI programs who defy the irrational behavior of the humans in consideration. Humans are blessed to go to the lowest depth of consciousness or ascend higher than anyone out there. Hence many are jealous of us in some way. Only in America a black Obama could win but still be insulted by senior bush in the house lol. Only in America, black supporters like SG, is disillusioned by that false prophet (Selvaraj) and may not have voted for the democrats whose principles are love, truth , liberty and oneness.
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Dhyana
Knowflake Posts: 883
From: US
Registered: Sep 2019
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posted November 04, 2020 04:32 PM
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1. I thought about waiting until my radio show to state this, but it must be said now: All night and this morning, the media are playing with the electoral map and their declarations of who won what states, and in virtually every case it assists the Biden campaign.
Mark Levin quote:
Accurate. Fake media polls failed to accomplish what they wanted on Election Night. And so corrupt media called an audible to just ignore actual vote counts to set narratives for Biden, hence the bogus Biden call for AZ and the refusal to call FL/OH/TX.
http://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/1324044788472139779 IP: Logged |
Dhyana
Knowflake Posts: 883
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Registered: Sep 2019
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posted November 04, 2020 04:38 PM
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BREAKING: This woman outside the counting facility in Wayne County (Detroit) claims she discovered one box of ballots that contained 500 ballots from people who were not on the voter rolls.
http://twitter.com/Wizard_Predicts/status/1324085564409323520 IP: Logged |
MarsSaturnDelight
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posted November 04, 2020 04:41 PM
Just watching rapey Rudy Guiliani On Sky News.Casting conspiracies. Great entertainment. IP: Logged |
Dhyana
Knowflake Posts: 883
From: US
Registered: Sep 2019
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posted November 04, 2020 04:42 PM
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Michigan [House]: John James now extends his lead to about 23,000 votes.
http://twitter.com/Wizard_Predicts/status/1324080082252632066 IP: Logged |
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