posted January 08, 2021 01:21 PM            

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Originally posted by juniperb:
Easy dumuzi, no one has disrespected you nor your opinion. Please show the same refrain. Thanks!!

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no. Iq accused dumuzi of being a "white supremacist"

This is a dangerous accusation which has led to unemployment, bullying, incarceration, physical assault, suicide, and even murder.

posted January 08, 2021 01:39 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
the context is taken into consideration when we look at disproportionate amounts of crime in populations

my issue is people like iq gloss over the larger issue of police brutality by turning it into a race issue and implying it only happens to blacks, this is not acceptable and it's a lie

just like blueroamer's thread declaring that no one was being harmed at the capitol during the protests when white people did get killed and a white lady was shot and confirmed dead at the time of that thread being posted

all the while claiming there were no deaths because these people were white

this is harmful, it's damaging and it makes people enemies of each other

iq kind of proved that by calling me a white supremacist for pointing out other people get killed

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posted January 08, 2021 02:00 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
She was shot, because she was attacking politicians in D.C. they were trying to overthrow a democratic election. They shouldn’t have made it that far in the first place. It’s just amazing, that they got that close to Mike Pence and others (people they considered traitors to their country). Cops didn’t shoot them, security did.

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please read the thread that i'm referencing, it shouldn't be too far down and had a race baiting name

the context of what was said in that thread was that nobody was getting shot at or harmed at all and had a free pass to run into the building due to colour

this was untrue, the reality of the protests was that people did die and at the time blueroamer spoke someone was already confirmed dead

whether you or i or anyone thinks it was a justified death is irrelevant, the point was that it was declared that no one was getting shot at because they were white and had it been black people shots would have been fired

posted January 08, 2021 02:08 PM            

It's true that the preparation for black people was much more dramatic than the preparation for white people. That's a salient point.

posted January 08, 2021 02:10 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
please read the thread that i'm referencing, it shouldn't be too far down and had a race baiting name

the context of what was said in that thread was that nobody was getting shot at or harmed at all and had a free pass to run into the building due to colour

this was untrue, the reality of the protests was that people did die and at the time blueroamer spoke someone was already confirmed dead

whether you or i or anyone thinks it was a justified death is irrelevant, the point was that it was declared that no one was getting shot at because they were white and had it been black people shots would have been fired

however the reality was that they were white and shots were still fired

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posted January 08, 2021 02:58 PM            

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Originally posted by AcousticGod:
Seems immaterial.

It's true that the preparation for black people was much more dramatic than the preparation for white people. That's a salient point.

I went through the day witnessing zero violence, though I heard about the woman being shot. Then, I was kind of surprised to see all the rattled Senators and Congresspeople talking about the violence. NBC, I guess, wasn't in the thick of it. It wasn't until later that I saw more images of the actual violence.

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i think misrepresentation of events to fuel a racially based divisive narrative is extremely wrong, especially given the state of things

this sort of thing is part of a larger problem

the reality is there are plenty of people who do not look into things for themselves, when we just completely throw facts away to push a view we're fueling anger and ignorance which isn't ok

@teasel

what i said above applies to what you said as well

it isn't a matter of comparing it's a matter of saying "this didn't happen because of race" when in fact it's a blatant lie

this further divides people by race and is harmful rhetoric and propaganda

posted January 08, 2021 03:07 PM            

Why was this allowed to happen?
http://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/arrests-on-us-capitol-steps-ahead-of-vote-on-top-judge/news-story/e7964be59c0c940256581c4240757b4e

Women, white and bipoc, broke thru security barriers into the Chamber, defied police orders, resisted arrest, and disrupted a legal vote. It was necessary to forcibly remove these women from a room were the VP and multiple senators actually stood - within shooting distance, as it where. There were arrests, as there have been this week, but none of the rioters were shot. Why not?

posted January 08, 2021 03:09 PM            

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Originally posted by BlueRoamer:
Shura may not be a Russian but they are a troll

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posted January 08, 2021 03:40 PM            

So maybe BR is right after all

posted January 08, 2021 03:53 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
i think misrepresentation of events to fuel a racially based divisive narrative is extremely wrong, especially given the state of things

this sort of thing is part of a larger problem

the reality is there are plenty of people who do not look into things for themselves, when we just completely throw facts away to push a view we're fueling anger and ignorance which isn't ok

@teasel

what i said above applies to what you said as well

it isn't a matter of comparing it's a matter of saying "this didn't happen because of race" when in fact it's a blatant lie

this further divides people by race and is harmful rhetoric and propaganda

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She made it that far, because she was a trump supporter. She made it that close, because she supported him. I'm talking about rabid believers.

posted January 08, 2021 04:08 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
She made it that far, because she was a trump supporter. She made it that close, because she supported him. I'm talking about rabid believers.

All of this happened on the same day that Stacey Abrams and her team, were celebrating (along with the rest of us), that their Senate contenders won their elections. Black people saved us again, because they need to look out for themselves, and do their damnedest to vote out people like trump. He has supporters who are people of colour, but a lot of them aren't.

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the fact that you think that joe biden being in office is going to "save us" is a joke only time can tell

aside from that is she dead? yes
was she shot? yes
was she white? yes

posted January 09, 2021 03:11 AM            

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when we just completely throw facts away to push a view we're fueling anger and ignorance which isn't ok

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This is literally ALL you ever do. Your views are tremendously unaware and frankly unself-conscious in the worst way. You assume a position of high status while espousing primitive views.

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let's move past the media narrative that this weeks protests are exceptional.

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Let's not, Shura.

Let's acknowledge that there was nothing actually legitimate to "protest" as determined by several courts nationwide. We are a nation of laws. Let those wishing to establish some proof do just that. Failing that, let's be assured that we can all trust the news out of the courts, especially given how many judges Trump has seated. Common truth. Not misinformation. Trump legitimately lost as expected. It's unsurprising. If it seems surprising, your assumptions need reflection.

Let's not use women protesting the confirmation of Justice Kavanaugh as an excuse for the events of this week. These are no more equal than trying to use BLM as justification.

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Women, white and bipoc, broke thru security barriers into the Chamber, defied police orders, resisted arrest, and disrupted a legal vote.

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This is literally news to everyone. Didn't happen. They were in the chambers for sure, but legally. Then they were expelled when they broke the rules. So, no, not insurrection. Not violent. Not equal.

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You say Russian like it's a bad thing.

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posted January 09, 2021 03:24 AM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
There were apparently off-duty members of the police force and the military, who flashed their badges as they were a part of the mob, attempting a coup. When this sort of thing is ignored, we are in trouble.

Until the "bad apples" are taken care of, it won't be okay, and the rest of the police officers and the military, will be carrying the stigma, too.

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Massive Twitter Crowdsourcing is ongoing, already two of the Ex-Military Terrorists have been identified. Its a massive conspiracy, and I am 100% sure more is planned on Jan 19th and Jan 20th. These are the mentors of Timothy McVeigh, now funded very well by Mercer Cash and emboldened for 4 years.

BTW, I have seen about a 1000 images of these groups last week, yet to spot a single African American. So Blue Roamer's Title gets stronger and stronger than ever. Black People are the Saviors in the USA right now. They vote out Neo Nazis and do not plan insurrections.

posted January 09, 2021 03:41 AM            

"My hope is that all violent agitators are arrested and their names are revealed publicly.
Call it a hunch, but my guess is there are still ANTIFA thugs in the mix."

posted January 09, 2021 05:18 AM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Shura, this is not the AG of old. Just have fun.

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I've been back due to the last recents events, and this distance allowed me to see better the dynamics at play here.

The gaslighting of shura and Randall is unbelievable.

I think beyond the obvious disagreement on the topics, the reason why this place LINDALAND AS A WHOLE, is the shadow of what it used to be, is because of the energy that is keeping people down.

It is not enough to be talking love and light if the environment is toxic.

AG argument are excellent, and what stand out is his firm grounding in reality, just saying let's not Shura, when she tries to move from the reality.

last point before I leave again, cause I do not have the fidelity qualities like juniperb or teasel have, I totally agree with the post by Blueroamer, the black community saved the US democracy. Thank god for them.

posted January 09, 2021 06:33 AM            

what facts have i ignored here? please cite/refute them

>primitive
acknowledging the darker side of life may seem primitive to you i suppose, to me pretending it doesn't/shouldn't exist as if that puts you on a pedestal is sheer ignorance

pacifism generally leads nowhere on its own, if it didn't you'd see massive changes created from it and that's just not the way the world works

people act as if violence is beneath everyone because they buy into narratives of alleged superiority designed to keep them weak

world is as it is now because people have allowed themselves to be weak for so long, you can't fix corruption by playing by the rules you're allowed to play by within the corrupt system when you're at the bottom

i haven't put myself above anyone however, that's simply projection on your part, i like the idealism of pacifists i find it well meaning even if i find it misplaced

it stems from good qualities that aren't grounded in reality along with the desire to escape from human nature and pretending that's the only way to "grow"

love it, but do i agree with it? no

am i better than someone else because we disagree? of course not

is something that actively happens in current year primitive? no

you're like one of those people who calls behavior "high school behavior" meanwhile they're just ******** about **** many adults do that really boils down to human behavior regardless of age

being a pacifist doesn't inherently make a person more intelligent, especially when they keep trying to do something that doesn't work

well thought out strategic violence is important on a larger scale in the context of gaining/maintaining power when it comes to larger systems in place

you'll find i haven't praised looters stealing from innocent local business owners or setting civilian cars on fire (blm movement) to protest against cops as making quality moves

posted January 09, 2021 06:59 AM            

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Originally posted by pire:

last point before I leave again, cause I do not have the fidelity qualities like juniperb or teasel have, I totally agree with the post by Blueroamer, the black community saved the US democracy. Thank god for them.

❤️🇫🇷

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no, no they didn't

many of them simply voted in the way you'd like them to have voted, putting a dnc (which is loaded in massive corruption) figurehead into power

posted January 09, 2021 07:11 AM            

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Originally posted by iQ:
Black People are the Saviors in the USA right now. They vote out Neo Nazis and do not plan insurrections.

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looting stores and setting fire to civilian cars is being a savior? being overrepresented in violent crimes is saving america? look at places like chicago and detroit then tell me they're all "saviors"

not to mention how massively corrupt the dnc is, and the reality is that you legit don't even know how this will ultimately pan out

all your "saviors" did was buy into a ******** system that keeps the masses down and favor one source of corruption over another

posted January 09, 2021 08:37 AM            

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when we just completely throw facts away to push a view we're fueling anger and ignorance which isn't ok

This is literally ALL you ever do. Your views are tremendously unaware and frankly unself-conscious in the worst way. You assume a position of high status while espousing primitive views.

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posted January 09, 2021 09:01 AM            

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Originally posted by shura:
AG where did you pull this first quote from?

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