posted January 24, 2025 04:14 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
"...My heart goes out to you...!"

That is what Musk said to the audience.

After creating TDS, mainstream media and the left are trying hard to create MDS.

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posted January 24, 2025 04:16 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
President Trump is playing 4D chess, and all you Dems are concerned about is the hand gesture of a billionaire. Great distraction, bro!

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posted January 24, 2025 04:18 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
President Trump is playing 4D chess, and all you Dems are concerned about is the hand gesture of a billionaire. Great distraction, bro!

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posted January 24, 2025 04:21 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage2:
We had to deal with TDS since 2016.

Now we have to deal with MDS (Musk Derangement Syndrome). Fun times ahead.

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posted January 24, 2025 04:43 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
That wasn't it. He knows the difference. I saw video of him giving a heart to an audience. He made the shape of a heart with his hands, and then threw it out with both arms.

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posted January 24, 2025 04:51 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
Like your BDS? Biden derangement syndrome? Even more so: Hunter Biden. HBDS.

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BDS? Funny!
Nobody was afraid of your dementia ridden, teleprompter needing puppet, that you and the dems covered for until you couldn’t do it anymore. Maybe you should put your energy into finding out who was the puppet meister behind the scenes? I’d be afraid of that shadowy figure, for sure.

posted January 24, 2025 05:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage2:
Musk said "...My heart goes out to you...!" when he hit/grabbed the left side of his chest and sent his hand into the air. That is undeniable!

You want to persist in claiming it was a nazi salute, well, it is your choice.

There are videos compilations showing democrats and celebrities with their hands up in the air in what could be construed as a nazi salute, but no one has accused them of that because people look at context and what the person was saying.

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Did you even watch the video? There was no mistake about it. It doesn’t matter what he said. I could flip you a middle finger and say “you are number 1”. However that doesn’t change the meaning of my gesture. The entire gesture, the outstretched hand and vigor, there’s no doubt about it. Even the Germans are ****** off. Did you forget he supports AfD?

posted January 24, 2025 06:15 PM            

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Originally posted by PlutoWasHere:
Did you even watch the video? There was no mistake about it. It doesn’t matter what he said. I could flip you a middle finger and say “you are number 1”. However that doesn’t change the meaning of my gesture. The entire gesture, the outstretched hand and vigor, there’s no doubt about it. Even the Germans are ****** off. Did you forget he supports AfD?

And the compilations are just pathetic. They are stills of people waving versus an entire video of Musk. His gesture is obvious. Why are you even defending Musk? We can all see what he did.

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I watched the event LIVE! Unlike the majority of those foaming at the mouth now because they originally saw the pic minus the words uttered, that mainstream media posted as "nazi salute" and even when they found out later he was saying My Heart goes out to you, they refuse to change their stance!

I saw it LIVE and thought nothing of it!!! Until I realized hours later that apparently, some people saw something different.

posted January 25, 2025 02:30 AM            

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Originally posted by Belage2:
I watched the event LIVE! Unlike the majority of those foaming at the mouth now because they originally saw the pic minus the words uttered, that mainstream media posted as "nazi salute" and even when they found out later he was saying My Heart goes out to you, they refuse to change their stance!

I saw it LIVE and thought nothing of it!!! Until I realized hours later that apparently, some people saw something different.

You are not going to change my opinion and apparently, I am not going to change yours. End of story!

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Like I said, the words don’t change the meaning of that gesture. The fact you thought nothing of it but that politicians in Europe, and especially Germany, are absolutely disgusted, shows how willfully ignorant you are. If Musk didn’t support AfD and had apologized for the confusion, I would be open to see it as being clumsy. But it’s such a dog whistle right now. It’s obvious you have lost your critical thinking.

There are some really disturbing developments, there are Republicans that are blurring the lines and flirting with fascism. Hitler is being openly idealized. Staying ignorant is very dangerous.

posted January 25, 2025 04:28 AM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Bully? America has been a patsy! Other countries have taken advantage of us for years. A strong America equals a safe world.

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Randall, have you seen this?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14323293/amp/trump-denmark-pm-call-greenland-military-threat.html

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/politics/2025/01/24/denmark-crisis-horrendous-phone-call-trump-buy-greenland/

https://www.reuters.com/world/un-panama-reminds-trump-he-should-not-be-threatening-force-2025-01-21/

https://news.sky.com/story/amp/trumps-threat-to-turn-canada-into-part-of-the-us-represents-most-serious-threat-since-war-of-1812-13285471

When does it become bullying? Where does someone cross the line?

posted January 25, 2025 04:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage2:
BDS? Funny!
Nobody was afraid of your dementia ridden, teleprompter needing puppet, that you and the dems covered for until you couldn’t do it anymore. Maybe you should put your energy into finding out who was the puppet meister behind the scenes? I’d be afraid of that shadowy figure, for sure.

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You mean the man who is older than trump, but also a lot sharper, and an actual ******* patriot?

posted January 25, 2025 04:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
The slant of those articles makes me question how much is actually true. The news is great at twisting facts. For example, President Trump whimsically mentioned making Canada the 51st state. He never implied taking it by force. We have a treaty with Panama that, if violated, would possibly allow us to retake the canal by military force. Panama has signed 47 bilateral agreements with China and has turned against Taiwan at Bejing's urging. The security risk is that in a conflict, China can instantly create a chokepoint that will significantly disrupt the U.S. They are flirting with China and thumbing their noses at us. If they don't straighten up, we should fulfill our end of the treaty and retake the canal. I don't view anything so far as "bullying." President Trump is assertive. He negotiates by starting with the srongest position.

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posted January 25, 2025 05:08 PM            

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Originally posted by PlutoWasHere:
Like I said, the words don’t change the meaning of that gesture.

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Words and contexts apparently changed the meaning of the gesture when Democrats used the same gesture. So you can miss me with that argument!

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Originally posted by PlutoWasHere:

The fact you thought nothing of it but that politicians in Europe, and especially Germany, are absolutely disgusted, shows how willfully ignorant you are. If Musk didn’t support AfD and had apologized for the confusion, I would be open to see it as being clumsy. But it’s such a dog whistle right now. It’s obvious you have lost your critical thinking.

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You keep mentioning the AfD as though I should be scared, very scared: European mainstream media and politicians have labelled MAGA a far right, an extreme right movement that the free world should be very afraid of. So, as far as I am concerned, the label far right or extreme right has become totally meaningless!

I personally do.not.care what politicians in Europe and in Germany are thinking. They have long shown to be slaves to the WHO, to the WEF, to the EU and have betrayed their own people to serve the interests of globalists. They are widely unpopular in their own countries in case you haven't noticed! The right is gaining ground in almost every country in Europe!! Have you asked yourself WHY??

posted January 25, 2025 05:14 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
You mean the man who is older than trump, but also a lot sharper, and an actual ******* patriot?

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posted January 26, 2025 01:00 AM            

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Originally posted by Belage2:
Words and context…

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…European mainstream media and politicians have labelled MAGA a far right, an extreme right movement that the free world should be very afraid of. So, as far as I am concerned, the label far right or extreme right has become totally meaningless!…

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…The right is gaining ground in almost every country in Europe!! Have you asked yourself WHY??

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“Those who cannot remember the past, are condemned to repeat it.” ~George Santayana~

posted January 26, 2025 12:52 PM            

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We’re not talking about an innocent eyewink or some obscure local taboo. This is a gesture that is linked to spreading hate and genocide during an actual world war. That’s not something you can disregard and minimalize through “context”. Any normal human being would be shocked their gestures are confused with this and apologize. His behavior should not be normalized. Stop finding excuses and hold this grown man accountable for what he does.

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posted January 26, 2025 01:10 PM            

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Do you even know what “far right” is? Have you looked up its characteristics or are you just going by your own feelings? Because guess what? So did the Nazi supporters in the 1930’s. Your strong sentiments do not make you immune from following the wrong person. Those feelings are actually what makes it so dangerous, it causes lack of critical thinking. Like I said before, shame is part of WW2 trauma. We let it happen. No matter what political “color”, make sure that you always ask questions. Any political party that demands unwavering loyalty and dehumanizes their opponents, is dangerous.

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Fine. Let's talk about the meaning of Far Right. I am old enough to remember what Far Right used to mean, but times they are a-changing, and as of now, listening to mainstream media and the woke politicians, Far Right now means:

-Any party that wants to restrict or opposes reckless immigration and wants the country to preserve their national identity.
-Any party who opposes transgender agenda being pushed on women and children
-Any party who talks about Christian values
-Any party who is not on board with CRT (critical race theory)
-Any party who is not on board with the Green New Deal scheme
-Any party who believes people should have a choice in getting vaccinated or not.

Across the board, in the US and Europe, these are now what earns you the Far Right label!

posted January 26, 2025 01:14 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage2:
What confuses me is that when confronted with pics of the same gesture done by democrats you have brought up context and words. Which of course is common sense. So, my question was, why does context and words only mattered for these democrats' gesture but not for Musk and you completely disregard that he said My heart goes out to you? Do words and context matter or do they not?

I am genuinely confused.

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Belage, your confusion seems very insincere when you insist that a compilation of stills is the same as a video of the complete gesture. A frozen moment in time is not the same as a gesture, that has nothing to do with “context”. Please tell me, are you denying he made the gesture or are you trying to convince me this isn’t a bad gesture?

posted January 26, 2025 01:15 PM            

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any political party that demands unwavering loyalty and dehumanizes their opponents, is dangerous.

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Of course, I agree. Now hear me out:

For the past 4 years, we have watched the dems unwaveringly pretending dementia Joe was fine, no one in the democratic party dared disagree!

We have watched the Biden administration dehumanizing vaccine hesitants and people who would not take the shot. We have watched people being deplatformed and censored for having a different medical opinion. WE HAVE WATCHED IT AND EXPERIENCED IT FIRSTHAND, with people calling for us to be rounded and put away, lose our jobs, etc! THIS HAS HAPPENED, so please, do not come here lecturing me about parties that demand unwavering loyalties and that deshumanize people. WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THAT HERE IN THE US!