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firecracker
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posted December 23, 2010 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for firecracker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i just get over stuff fast once it's all off my chest abs...then, what more to talk about except something else. certainly not going to let it ruin my day.

so, i am over this.

ami is ami, i am me. la la ..hippity hop...

time to get past it all and not get sucked in next time..uh huh. four days of parties ahead, so yes, my mind is on getting to the liquer store now and having a bit of holiday fun with friends and family..for which i am grateful to have many of both!

so..
here's to you
here's to me
here's to love and laughter
and if we ever disagree,
screw you, here's to me.

c'est l'a vie

that's just the way it goes.

5th house stella and leo stella...c'mon, whatcha spect? i'm gonna have fun. life is to enjoy!

(i get over mad ..fast as i get mad) what can i say.


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Ami Anne
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posted December 23, 2010 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The hardest foe we will ever have is our own ego.
You are right about that,Juni !

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Ami Anne
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posted December 23, 2010 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
not get sucked in next time

Don't start

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firecracker
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posted December 23, 2010 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for firecracker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i was not talking to you.

you will know when i do, by me saying your name
joker:

BAWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

or if i pinch your head

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charmainec
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posted December 23, 2010 04:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charmainec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Will rather stay away from here for a while.

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LEXX
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posted December 23, 2010 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
firecracker
What I like about you is that we have talked through our misunderstandings and discovered we are on the same pages after all.:{{{hugs}}}
You are a person, who as myself, has no problem with apologizing and is totally desiring of taking it off forum to talk and share at length and in depth until we understand each other.
As a result of our deep open hearted conversations;
I have great love and respect for you my friend.
Thank you for being one of the most real and honest people I have met here at LL.
Yes there are several others, not going to list here, (please do not feel slighted folks; I simply do not feel this is the thread to list each and every one of you, and also set you up for possible attacks from my haters)

I was only wanting Ami to stop making fun of STDs.
An apology would have been nice.
Yes, I got angry, but still feel it was justified.

I however did apologize for becoming angry; even though justified
However she refused to apologize for her wrongdoing, then denied it, and then threatened me, pulled the holier than thou routine....
which frosted me even more because she and I
have had many private conversations about her son's suicide and she also "knew exactly
what my mother had done to me in the name of God and Jesus;
the brutal bloody whippings, beatings, and sexual and emotional abuses, plus the many death threats.
So yeah, she KNEW she was pushing my buttons!
She knew exactly what she was doing by bringing God and later, Jesus into the picture.


I should know better than to trust Christians.
It always takes that kind of turn.
The moment I say anything they do not agree with....wham!
I am deemed their enemy.
All I wanted was for her to take the STD thread seriously.
She would not.
I have as most have seen;
stayed almost completely out of the "Ami dramas".
But, when she did not treat STDs and the terrible things and loss of loved ones,
seriously;
well,
I simply could not stay quiet.
I am tired of these dramas.
I am tired of feeling uncomfortable replying on many threads, or sharing of late because of all the dramas.

I do regret ever trusting and confiding to Ami.
However;
I hope she gets the help she needs.
I mean that nicely.
May she find peace.

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littlecloud
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posted December 23, 2010 04:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for littlecloud     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think you all totally misunderstood. Ever heard of sarcasm? I'm thinking that's what Ami was using. (in regards to the whole God thing)

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LEXX
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posted December 23, 2010 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sarcasm is often a vehicle to slyly ridicule,
and not meant in idle jest.

The old;

quote:
"Of course I was not trying to be nasty routine; hee hee,
just kidding around, tee hee. "

Well bullshite to that!
It does not take a genius to read betwixt the lines of the real intent.
She did that after I got on her case about making fun of a serious issue;
fully knowing my take on God;
so yeah, it was intentional in my pov, meant to goad, not be simply funny.

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ChristyT
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posted December 23, 2010 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChristyT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I think you need to get your terms right. A victim thread is where a person ,such as *I* gets attacked in any shape, manner or form, and does NOT call out the person(s) who attacked me.
THAT is a victim thread

When I CALL you out, that is a NON VICTIM thread.


I have read this a few times and l really fail to understand it. Can someone please explain to me what she is talking about? Is this a possession thing? An entity talking? I'm kinda thinking this is a touch messed up.

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ChristyT
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posted December 23, 2010 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChristyT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Not to mention the fact that you insult the site by saying it's gone downhill and calling it Ami Anne Goodman. Lindaland has never been better. Ami has her issues, as do all of us. The "witch hunt" mentality here from Christians every time we have a glitch is what has turned me off to Christianity.

Ok, as a lurker on here for over 2 years, i'd like to just say politely that Randall, you are mistaken.

1. LindaLand is going downhill. It's almost at the bottom of the ski run.
2. Ami Anne Goodman is not as insulting as you might respectfully think, seeing as it is now her site.
3. There are no glitches on some of these threads. I'm recovering from an operation so l am able to read a lot of these threads and l SEE with my own eyes how Ami manipulates the forum posts. Glitches seem to be on remote control with her pressing the button.
4. Ami is not at the end of a witch hunt. With all due respect, and without prejudice, Ami Anne has single-handedly turned LL into an 8th house forum. Her split personality first got almost everyone on her side, and then cleverly turned everyone against her, themselves and others by her own psychosis.
I have been here longer than you Randall, simply because until recent days you haven't even been on this forum, so in my mind you have limited rights over this discussion. I have no idea how long Firecracker has been here, although l empathise entirely with her view and frustration.

You are always letting Ami off the hook and punishing your loyal members. LindaLand is a community built with solid foundations; sadly most of those foundations appear not to be here, instead replaced by breeze block shoddy materials such as Ami Anne.
I am left wondering what hold she has on you for you to always be in her corner. It must be something big for you to act this extremist, or maybe you are just like this anyway and no one realised.
Like l said "without prejudice". I've seen so many fights on this forum and most of them seem to be started or continued by either yourself or Ami.
Why is that? This is a serious question. I'm not patronizing you here.
You've lost your best astrologers. You are left with the rasberri's of this world whom frankly, know nada. Give it a few months and the quality of LindaLand will show its lacking in content and bulk.

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ChristyT
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posted December 23, 2010 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChristyT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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You made an outright accusation towards Christy (I don't know her and have never met her until that thread and I do not condone some of what she said to you). I did not take sides in that matter, however, since I DID read her link I found that you accused her without taking the facts into consideration.

Thanks BearsArcher,
Yes Ami Anne did accuse me in a most direct way about how l knew her sun sign and l did therefore post the link, seeing as that very day she had stated she was indeed a gemini on another thread. I do not wish to be placed in the firing line over someones paranoia and l am only here for Astrology, having lurked and researched many old threads for a long time. Believe or not, l am a shy person who needs a lot of time to be somewhere before l will speak up. Having read all your posts for a while now l do feel a familiarity with you all and l appreciate that to some, this may mean they see me as someone suspicious.
Thank you for viewing this accusation in an adult way. Merry Christmas to you.

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princess_sparrs
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posted December 23, 2010 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for princess_sparrs     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think it's a witch hunt, I think people can only put up with so much from Ami. I have read many threads where LL members poured their hearts to her and shared experiences or tried to help Ami and even after she got upset with them trying to help, they were very patient in dealing with her.

People can only take so much. If she doesn't want feedback on her life then why does she write about it here.

Has anyone ever used a site called opendiary.com?
I recommend it for blogging. You can keep the blog private or share it with others blogs on the site. The space is yours (and free) to do what you want with.

I think taking sides is such a childish thing to talk about. I really see Ami in pain but that does not give her an excuse to attack others and cause them pain just because she is hurting. So I am not attacking or sticking up for either side I just wanted to say what I've seen. Maybe I'm wrong.

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firecracker
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posted December 23, 2010 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for firecracker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lexx, i agree so much. i came to love and respect you also, as you helped me like no other could. i found you to be so kind and understanding and i fell in love with you also.

unfortunately i have those same buttons, as i suffered much at the hands of someone doing evil in God's name. i am WAY sensitive to anyone making vieled threats from God. as i suffered much at the hands of one whose favorite way to instill terror was to do exactly that.

some things just aren't acceptable to me and that is one. actually that is about one of the only thing that is guaranteed to tick me off in the realest of ways.

it took me years to realize God is PURE love and not like that AT ALL. and that He didn't hate ME.

so, i understand, like no other could. zala knows, my daughters terrible accident was claimed to be an answer to prayer as was my ex being papraplegic. who would pray such things? or say such things?

some things just should never be said or thought.

i send it back times 7 or 10 depending on the day and how i feel, but anyone sending wrath my way gets it back and more. sorry if it hurts them, but it is not my wishes but their own doing. what you sow you shall surely reap. universal law.

take care.

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Ami Anne
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posted December 23, 2010 05:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear Christy
I only WISH I had the God like power ,in any venue of my life, that you ascribe to me.
Your thinking is totally fallacious and does not hold a drop of water, with all due respect.
As to your identity, it is strange that a lurker is so intimate with as many details as you are.
With the recent upsetting events,it would be natural for people to be on edge when they see such things as this.
Furthermore, there is a place for EVERYONE on LL, the 8th house people , the serious astrologers, the semi serious astrologers and the newbies.
Just cuz an astrologer is a serious one does not make him more important than the new person who is trying to learn.
If you look at Astro 2, it is filled with positivity,joy and love.
My hope is that people will join that and not separate people in to divisions such as 8th house people or semi serious astrologers.


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ChristyT
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posted December 23, 2010 06:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChristyT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh really?
So what does a lurker do on here then, apart from read threads to learn astrology?
Everyone has access to your posts Ami Anne. All of them, or at least, the ones you don't mess with

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Ami Anne
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posted December 23, 2010 06:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear Christy
If you go to msn, I put the picture up that you wanted.
I am afraid to SEND it to you cuz you could put voodoo pins in it.
Seeing it on msn will have to suffice for now

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ChristyT
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posted December 23, 2010 06:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChristyT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol so does everyone in my block. Laters. It's cocktail time in the best city in the world. See y'all in 2011.

ps. Jesus WAS a man. To put him on a pedestal is just wrong.

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posted December 23, 2010 06:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, why are you here, then Christy, if you think so lowly of the site? And I've been on Lindaland every single day; just because I wasn't posting doesn't mean I wasn't here. What a bold statement to say that I have limited rights to the discussion. Really? REALLY? That's laughable. You are certainly entitled to your opinion. But kindly refrain from hurling insults at Ami or anyone else. You have been warned.

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posted December 23, 2010 06:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ChristyT:
lol so does everyone in my block. Laters. It's cocktail time in the best city in the world. See y'all in 2011.

ps. Jesus WAS a man. To put him on a pedestal is just wrong.


Best city in the world, huh? Well, your IP traces to the UK, not the states, and definitely not NY. So, who are you, Christy? Why pretend to be a New Yorker? I don't mind Knowflakes who left coming back, providing they are honest about who they are and not trying to deceive everyone. So, why don't you own up to who you really are?

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posted December 23, 2010 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is just a general comment:

What I see is a lot of hurt and/or angry people dumping their b.s. in an online forum, and I wonder why? Maybe you all need to look at yourselves more and detach just a bit; maybe take a break from LL. Just take a dose of sanity.

This is so weird to read all of this, and I feel bad for all of you embroiled. To me, it's a non-issue. This is the Internet. Not your neighbors. I understand LL has a community feel to it, but the things you write sometimes are a bit over the top. I'm talking to everyone. This is an issue due to the heavy interactive element here.

I'm in agreement with a few others on this site, if you don't like it here just stop posting/responding. You don't need to do the big childish bit of asking to be de-registered. Just go elsewhere.

And, Ami isn't taking over LL. If you feel that she is, your view's a bit skewed due to placing too much emphasis on her posts. From what I can see she posts an above-avg amount, but so do many others. Yes she did get riled up when talking about deleting threads, et al, but give the gal credit for working to better herself. She deserves that. And she goes out of her way to meet you half way. But unfortunately she's human and gets upset, just like everyone, so maybe everyone needs to detach just a bit, that's why I felt compelled to write this.

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posted December 23, 2010 07:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, Lonake. That was a very rational post. I do agree with every bit of it, because it is from a logical standpoint, all emotions aside.

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posted December 23, 2010 08:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sometimes our ability to think rationally can be adversely affected by a severe lack of information.

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Much love to all

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posted December 24, 2010 12:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
"Judge not, lest ye be judged." The next time there is a glitch, how about not throwing around accusations?


Randall, you will see this issue with AMI ANNE go away, when she makes the FIRST steps towards sucking it up, and reconciling with people here on Lindaland.

So far, in spite of ME and YOU fighting against an entire board of people, calming down, and apologizing for our parts - AMI has NEVER apologized.

In fact, from my perspective, she has simply associated with folks who will "exhalt" her, and "disassociate" with people who do NOT play by her terms, and her game...

Trust me when I say this, as nicely as possible, but your head's on the chopping block next. Don't believe me? Try disagreeing with her publically and on a big issue...

You will fall quickly from grace in like 2 seconds.

When she can move forward, instead of seeing the whole world, including Lindaland, as black and white, 2-dimensional figurines, you will see a more peaceful environment between us all.

IT IS DISCONCERTING, OFFENSIVE, and rubs people the WRONG way to be "classified" as a Evil-doer, just because we don't play by her rules and terms.

As far as assuming she was messing with the thread? I honestly felt that she was CAPABLE of that.

It turned out to be a glitch, but regardless, I had LITTLE reaction to the idea of her messing with the thread...

Even so... the larger issue was ALWAYS about LEXX and AMI...

While I am not here to play Karma police to that, I have said enough...

In the future, I WOULD PREFER, AMI ANNE, if you would LEAVE MY NAME OUT OF YOUR POSTS.

You do not treat me, or think of me, with any respect - so as you require of others (to ignore you and leave you be), PLEASE give me the same respect.

No more threads calling me out personally, please.

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posted December 24, 2010 05:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charmainec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Emotions aside,it's like we have to walk on eggshells when it comes to Ami.She wants apologies and respect yet it goes both ways not one way only.Randall you do defend her no matter what.I don't even have words anymore to describe this situation.Why does it always have to be a case of her being a victim? or being attacked?Lexx for example doesn't just react and go off unless another party really does wrong.If Ami has grieviences with members she can communicate in private.Tired of the drama.Yes,we need to look at our own reactions and behaviour and that applies to us ALL,including Ami.We should ALL be treated fairly.

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posted December 24, 2010 07:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear Christy
There are beautiful things in life among people, but rare.
That is reconciliation.
When that happens, it is a transcendent time between people.
I hope you can OWN the actions that resulted in your being banned rather than blame anyone.
When you come back,I will be the first to offer my hand to you.
The best friendships are ones where former hard relationships turned in to friendships.
Those become the tightest relationships.

There is no easy path. It is the path of humility and character which YOU are called upon to take.
You have to own YOUR side of it---yours alone.
I will be waiting for you on the other side.
Hey, I never got any credit for getting your ASC right, way back when


To Anyone on LL, I will RUN to apologize if I have hurt anyone, been mean, nasty,rude,ungracious or any other action you can point to.
I try to conduct myself with character and integrity. I am flawed as we all are.
I cannot apologize for my essential nature or personality nor should I ,or anyone else, have to.
If I am disliked for my essential nature, it is incumbent on those who dislike me to search their OWN souls for why?


Lonake knows me from over a year on Astro 2.
Thank you for your words!

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