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Ami Anne
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posted December 23, 2010 06:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To Lexx,Pluto Squared, FC,Bears Archer and Ab

I think you need to get your terms right. A victim thread is where a person ,such as *I* gets attacked in any shape, manner or form, and does NOT call out the person(s) who attacked me.
THAT is a victim thread

When I CALL you out, that is a NON VICTIM thread.

I am a Gemini and like to use the English language properly.
I hope that helps

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Ami Anne
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posted December 23, 2010 07:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a new signature to complement my new learning

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PlutoSquared
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posted December 23, 2010 10:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1st: Ami, you are a "Sinner" who is just as bad as any other "Sinner"... according to the Bible.

All Sins are Equal in God's eyes.

And, everyone is a Sinner.

So, think about that for a moment.

Everytime you Sin, YOU are just as bad as the BIG BAD SINNERS, that you're pointing your finger at...

Get off your high horse. God is not going to give you a "golden ticket pass" into heaven, because you've convinced yourself of your own innocence.

Everyone is Guilty...

Moving on to the next part here.

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posted December 23, 2010 10:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
2nd Problem: NO ONE ATTACKED YOU TO MAKE YOU A VICTIM YESTERDAY.

LEXX was validly upset with your approach over a sensitive subect, and instead of DEALING with her like a friend, you THREATENED her and became very self-righteous.

Then, you brushed her off, like she was nothing to you, and started acting all self-righteous speaking on God's behalf.

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posted December 23, 2010 10:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
3rd ISSUE:

YOU NEED TO ACCEPT, somehow, that by making these kinds of posts, YOU are in some way trying to understand all the "bad" people that you are isolating yourself from.

YOU are seperating yourself from everyone else, making them the bad guys, then coming back and stirring the pot...

THIS IS BECAUSE you need to GET OVER your victim mentality, and start to TRULY understand what's going on here.

Going around and around with this "I did nothing to provoke anyone" stuff is a nasty cycle. And, it's missing a big chip of truth!

You are lashing out, as well. You did yesterday. Don't make yourself to be a victim just because YOU are uncomfortable with confrontation, and are unable to resolve conflict in a manner that's respectful to all people involved.

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posted December 23, 2010 10:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No one here at LindaLand is a worthless, terrible person...

There are just shades of Grey! Just like YOU!

OPEN your eyes, SEE their sides, and you will find people RELATE to you better, and calm down around you.

Until you do that, this is just going to continue on and on and on.

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firecracker
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posted December 23, 2010 11:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for firecracker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
while the favor of God is a wonderful thing to have, don't assume that others don't have it too.

He loves ALL of His children.

He loves ME.

He hears ME and He speaks to ME and through ME. Anyone who tries to tell me differently is a liar.

you do not have the upper hand with God and it is a very dangerous thing to think or say that you do and issue threats in His name. In fact, I think that is NOT of God at all...and i find it abhorrantly in bad taste and even evil to wish ill on or threaten others in His name.

as where strife, division and confusion thrive, He is not in it.

Why concentrate on the splinter in your brothers eye, when you have a plank in your own?
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do what you do, but don't PLAY the victim when people respond accordingly. ..and yes, your pathetic call out threads are very much i am a poor victim, everybody is so mean to me, crap...the sad thing really is that you are lonely and sad and need attention, but you seek it out in ways to assure that it won't be positive and then you can say WE hurt you, due to not being able to face what is REALLY hurting you, missing your son at this time of year and other things that have nothing to do with us. We are not the reason you lost faith in humanity..we are just internet people, not the real life people that really DID hurt you.

if you are getting strong reactions everywhere, maybe it is better to look within and not without. That is what a spiritual person would do.

I am not perfect in any way or means, but I certainly can and do look within myself and not without myself when thing seem to be going in a negative direction.

Save your money from the therapy, it is wasted. the only one who can fix stuff is YOU.

"he who has ears to hear, let him hear."

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posted December 23, 2010 11:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for firecracker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i am the one that should have been the gawdag therapist.

i should have charged one million dollars for that STERLING advice.

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posted December 23, 2010 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
PlutoSquared

firecracker

Excellent advice and observations!


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Everyone is a student...
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posted December 23, 2010 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Judge not, lest ye be judged." The next time there is a glitch, how about not throwing around accusations?

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posted December 23, 2010 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for firecracker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Ami Anne
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posted December 22, 2010 01:18 PM
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I think God wanted to show some people their OWN faces.

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Randall
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posted December 22, 2010 01:18 PM
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If anyone hears of anyone being banned today, tell them to contact me. I haven't banned anyone. FrozenQueen's account was glitched away. There may have been others.
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PlutoSquared
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posted December 22, 2010 01:22 PM
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Originally posted by littlecloud:
Lexx- I was quoting what you said, sorry for the misunderstanding.
I didn't mean diet and positive thinking are the cures. A good diet providing the body with everything it needs does. It works even more effectively when done from day 1. As time goes by it gets harder to cure some things with a good diet because the body is just to damn acidic. An acidic body is where diseases love to hang out. And a good diet is what Big Brother doesn't want you to have, ie GMOs, pesticides, and fast food.

All this information is on the internet. If you are truly curious, search and you will find it.


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I'm sorry, this is STILL NOT TRUE...

There is no Big-brother behind antibiotics used to tread bacterial STD's...

No Big-brother behind using Valtrex for Herpes...

No Big-brother behind Anti-virals for HIV...

It's just NOT TRUE.

There are no herbs, plants, or vitamins that can rid the body of STD's.

These diseases have been around since the dawning of civilization. HIV, a more recent one, has been an issue within our lifetimes...

But, has become managable with anti-virals.

Extremism, in any regard, is dangerous.

People need to stay open-minded to BOTH ALTERNATIVE AND CONVENTIONAL MEDICINE!


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PlutoSquared
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posted December 22, 2010 01:31 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I think God wanted to show some people their OWN faces.
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How amazing of you to speak on behalf of God... is that an ability you have?

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Ami Anne
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posted December 22, 2010 01:31 PM
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PlutoSquared
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posted December 22, 2010 01:32 PM
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Great. There are probably some folks on Personal Readings then that would like direct messages from God...
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Ami Anne
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posted December 22, 2010 01:40 PM
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I am glad you appreciate me ,PS.That is very good sense on your part.


that is all direct quote, where ami issues a vieled threat to ps in regards to GOd being on her side.

people that do that need to be careful as someday it might just backfire and the one they hurt is themself.

i didn't accuse her of anything about the thread except in regards to her wielding God above peoples heads like don't mess with her or she will send God down to get you. that is an evil thing to do and I would never ever EVER wish for God to punish someone, that is just about as vindictive and mean as a person can be. nor would I assume that he only hears my prayers and not yours too. As I truly believe He LOVES each person that he created.

even an agnostic or an athiest would see that as being messed up.

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posted December 23, 2010 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for firecracker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
randall, any chance of limiting the call out threads to one per month, i didn't take the obvious BAIT on the last one at all, and notice you said nothing to her about her name calling on that one. and of course she wears herself out and doesn't want to bother with them the next day anyway or listen, just talk. any chance on one per month max? just to keep the forums clear of clutter and unwanted debris?

i mean the following week if she wants to call everyone out again , she can just revive the last one without cluttering the forum.

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posted December 23, 2010 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for firecracker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
and randall, are you ok with your moderators threating people with God's wrath?

becasue i don't think it's cool at all. and i don't think Linda would think it is so cool either. that is some sick shite.

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posted December 23, 2010 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saying that God is showing you your own face isn't threatening God's wrath. And you hurled direct insults, calling her a succubus. I think you mean well, but I think you are blind to your own negativity.

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posted December 23, 2010 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not to mention the fact that you insult the site by saying it's gone downhill and calling it Ami Anne Goodman. Lindaland has never been better. Ami has her issues, as do all of us. The "witch hunt" mentality here from Christians every time we have a glitch is what has turned me off to Christianity.

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posted December 23, 2010 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for firecracker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A***respecting the fact the i speak for god is a very wise thing on your part ps.**** from ami to ps...geez. you didn't see that part?

gee, you must have missed that vieled threat. i doubt i have turned you against christianity as i have never ever ever tried to make you think one way or the other about it, but i do understand as valus turned me off veganism, by his burn in hell or be a vegan mentality too. however, i have never ever ever insuated to tell anyone in my life what they should or should not believe. that is strictly your business.

whatever randall. of course you would take her side, i expect no less. you are predictable... whether right or worng, very predictable.

and you don't think the site was more astro relevant when iq, dd, didana, mvm, peri, duex., geocosmic valentine and other great astrogolgers were posting? as opposed to people posting cut and paste excerpts and call out threads? i do.

merry christmas to you and your loyal following.

***people should google their own name at least once, so they know what can be easily seen by everyone else***

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posted December 23, 2010 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We all have our own individualistic world schema based on our life experiences. Ami only sees her side. You, FC, only see your side. I have a gift that sometimes (but, admittedly, not always) allows me to see both sides. Seeing both sides fairly should be the goal of all Spirituality-seekers, and it is the byproduct of the pursuit of self-actualization. There's no way any of us can know what Ami has lived through; nor can any of us know your past, either, FC. All we can do is to TRY to understand one another. When someone lashes out, don't take it personally. Take the time to try to understand why. I think both you and Ami should remove the veil of judgment and look at yourselves internally from a fresh perspective. You are not that different. Are any of us really that different?

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posted December 23, 2010 01:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for firecracker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
nope. we are not all that different randall.

i can only be called out so many times before i flatten the person doing it. i din't even respond to the first one, but if she bring my name up again, i will lay her out every time.

limit the lash out threads...and keep MY screename out of her mouth. sound fair to you oh fair one?

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posted December 23, 2010 01:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not taking Ami's side. Can't you see that, FC? IQ, Geo, and even Glaucus are still posting, plus other great astrologers, as well, so you seem to have added more names to that list. But what had happened in the past in Astrology 2.0 was the general feeling that newbies were scared to speak up. Now we have the newbies as well as the sesaoned pros interacting with one another. And yes, I do see that as an improvement, and I'm certain Linda would agree.

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posted December 23, 2010 01:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for firecracker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
no randall, i don't see that,...not at all... you have called me to the carpet over and over and make me feel so unbelieveably un-welcome here anymore. no randall, i have never EVER seen you call her to the carpet. EVER.

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posted December 23, 2010 01:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fair enough. Ami, would you please not call out individual names on the board again? Thank you.

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posted December 23, 2010 01:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for firecracker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
maybe its because i don't call you daddy and tell you how great you are every five minutes.

in fact i am pretty sure that is it.

even then, you said please to her, please ami, and yet called me negative and said people like me is why you don't believe christianity.

nice randall.

people that threaten with gods name are what made me not like christians. yup. i guess we all have our thing.... don't we.

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posted December 23, 2010 01:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not at all. I'm usually too busy defending her from witch hunts to address her behavior at all. And I don't want you to feel unwelcome, FC. I actually like you. Not a fan of being called daddy, BTW. lol

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posted December 23, 2010 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for firecracker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
where there is smoke there is fire.

but actually , this is what she wants, start crap and then let someone rush in to defend her widdle sELF.

thank you for a least letting me know you want me here, i have been thinking quite the opposite lately randall.

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posted December 23, 2010 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BearsArcher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Randall,

Please- this has gone on too far and I am really tired of being called out by Ami for things I have never done. It seems as though she needs to list names and then pulls those usernames out of the air in order to bolster her point that she is a victim. This thread is evidence of that.

Ami,

I am not sure what is wrong with you or your reading skills. I would like for you to find in that thread where I made fun of you, bullied you or criticized you for being a victim. What I did was the following

1) You accused a Knowflake of being an old member that changed her name because she knew your astro sign. I referred to her thread that she posted (which you could have followed had you read the thread). I pointed out that in that thread you listed your astro sign.

2) I informed you that as a fellow moderator that if you had any issues with a member that was posing as a newbie (thereby insinuating that the member was either using two names or had been banned and was trying to use a different name) to inform Randall of the issue in order to let him know what was going on.

3) In that conversation you neither acknowledged the thread she posted (as a link) nor the fact that you posted your astro sign on said thread. Instead, you began another tangent discussing things that did not occur, thus letting us all know that you are throwing out accusations without substance.

4) I never once referred to you being a victim.

5) I never once made reference to deleted threads or posts or accused you of deleting anything.

6) I am SO TIRED of you lumping people into this "attack on Ami" category when it does not exist.

This is the second time you have done this to me for NO reason. I have been fair to you and I have stood back and have been objective. I have posted what the real definition of a bully is as well as a victim. I have posted to you with respect but you have definitely tried my last nerve with yet another thread about me and others being a bully.

I don't know what is going on with you, but what I can see is that much of the drama stems from your posts and the anger you elicit from others. I do admit that you are also getting the brunt of actions against you for no reason and I have stood up for you at times.

If you choose to make me your enemy that is fine. I will deftly take that challenge and still meet you with respect but will NOT have any issues with countering your insipid attacks against me and my character.

Grow up and stop acting like a 12 year old whose mommy took away her favorite Hannah Montana CD and get with the program.

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