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Ami Anne
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posted December 24, 2010 08:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am gonna tell you something VERY powerful.
The book "People of the Lie" talks about people who will not look at themselves.
Hence, they need to project their own unfaced parts ,outward.
This is VERY dangerous on any level--personal or societal.
"People of the Lie" hurt others!!!!

I know we ALL are on a spiritual path ,here. That should mean something.

That should mean we search inward first much before we point a finger outward especially if there is NO evidence beyond our own hate.

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posted December 24, 2010 09:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pisces moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami, I agree 100% it all comes down to the individual and it's up to each of us to search for our own truths staring with our hearts and souls.

Another important part of the journey is to put into action what we have learned through these searchings. To lead by example because what we do and how we conduct ourselves has much more power than what we say others should or should not do, especially if our actions and conduct do not match our words of wisdom.

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posted December 24, 2010 09:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
this is very sad:
"There are beautiful things in life among people, but rare"

and gives me a very good insight into why we all seem to ami to be "enemies" and "haters" ... it is not an uncommon belief but until recently "beautiful things among people" was pretty much the norm here at LL...excepting GU and some philosophical arguments that turned nasty with a certain member who ALSO saw a lot of haters here...and everywhere else i suspect.

when i was young i thought life was a battle for recognition, respect and support too. but when i look back i realize that it was MY POINT OF VIEW that made it that way.

as has been stated in this thread several times, EVERYONE has apologized, pretty much, EXCEPT for ami. why does someone who consistently suggests others "look at themselves" refuse to do so herself?

the closest i have come to being nasty to ami was to suggest to FC that she leave it alone because ami does not appear to care how she affects the rest of us, and by extension, the board. i have refrained from agreeing with her when i didn't but that is NOT picking on someone, it is disagreeing. for this i was told "i know you don't like me" or some such stock reply...however i have declined the invitation to talk in private and that seems to have sealed my conviction.

this is not the first "call-out" thread ami has posted and yet she seems shocked that it brings people's protests to the fore. i suggest she NOT call people out if she doesn't want a fight. end of problem.

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posted December 24, 2010 10:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is Social Psych 101.Someone is scapegoated,usually cuz people are jealous.
Usually the scapegoated person has something other people envy such as personality traits like a good sense of humor or keen intelligence.
Often, the scapegoated person will not join the "group think "for that particular group cuz the person is an "individual thinker".
After the person is scapegoated, in classic Social Psych fashion , the group BLAMES that person FOR being a "victim" OF their scapegoating.

Have any of you all studied Social Psych.I recommend it to you,highly

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posted December 24, 2010 10:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for emitres     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Have any of you all studied Social Psych.I recommend it to you,highly


actually, i did my minor in Psych - i wouldn't go down that road if i were you Ami

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posted December 24, 2010 10:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Charmaine, it's not about LEXX and Ami, because by the time I got here it had escalated to a bunch of people accusing Ami of something she didn't do, so yeah, of course I was going to defend her. What's right is right.

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posted December 24, 2010 10:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are other things about Social Psych,too.You guys are making me wrack my brain here
The group will do what the individual will NOT.This is one of the classics in Social Psych.
The group/mob acts as a whole.IF any individuals are singled out, it breaks UP the mob so it cannot function as it was.
That is how any hostile group can be broken up ,by singling OUT individuals.
When people are weak, they must band in a group to attack someone else.
They would NOT do it as an individual.
As an individual, they have not self actualized to the point that they know who they are and as such are not threatened by another person.
That is the core of mob group mentality. They are threatened by another person for whatever the reasons may be.
As such, they feel it is LEGITIMATE to attack the person.
They get their strength from each other. Usually,each would NOT attack,alone.

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posted December 24, 2010 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep, I studied it. Psych was my major in college. Three math classes short of my BA.

So,.... yeah. I'm looking at the psychology of this from a completely different angle. This has NOTHING to do with people being jealous of anybodies intelligence. Not at ALL.

Kat~
You have it right there. My philosophy on life can pretty much be summed up in what you said. EVERYTHING is perspective. We all look at this from our own perspectives, it's kind of hard not to. We are the drivers of these things we call bodies. Our brains and our emotions are the engines.

Some people are just better drivers is all.

Some drive cautiously, and avoid tickets and accidents.
And other people just crash and burn.
It is very sad, you are right about that.

I have a hard time believing that grown a$$ adults throw around words such as hate and jealousy, as if we were all in grade school.
That is silly.

I don't hate anyone. I hate Hate. It's unproductive, and so is jealousy.

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posted December 24, 2010 10:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, they use"dumb" reasons such as I laughed at STD's.
Then, they have a "reason" to attack. This is like the "Jews control the world" .

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posted December 24, 2010 10:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
People, we can ALL learn from this.This is bigger than me.
This is HUMAN NATURE and it is UGLY.

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posted December 24, 2010 11:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let's all grow from this.

If *I* go away,YOU still have this hatred in YOU for someone who is "different".
Perhaps, I expose your pain cuz I am so vocal about my own.
Perhaps, you are jealous of my personality traits.
Whatever it is, SINCE I did NOT hurt you,you need to look WITHIN.
Have the character and integrity to do that!
If *I* have hurt anyone ,been mean, ungracious, petty or violent, I will RUN to apologize to you.

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posted December 24, 2010 11:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
this has nothing to do with "jews control the world". it may have something to do with jews being paranoid about the world though. most jewish people i know have moved beyond 30s germany now.

human nature is far from ugly. some humans are ugly, it is true. but that worldview attracts the worst in people.


you have been told over and over ami that you HAVE hurt people, yet you still insist that you WILL apologize IF you do so. i am sorry if you feel picked on but your refusal to admit your part here keeps it going.

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posted December 24, 2010 11:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, You test my patience badly,Kat.
THAT was a reference to using a "ruse" to attack someone such as I "laughed at STD's"
Please ,don't be so literal

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posted December 24, 2010 11:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LEXX did NOT attack you! you did laugh at a serious subject! what "ruse" are you talking about?

most of us here fall into the category of "different"...why do you think we would exercise that particular MO?

sorry my battery is gone now. have a nice christmas.

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posted December 24, 2010 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are you trying to tell me I LAUGHED about STD's?
Well ,if so, I am sorry you are of such low intelligence and subtlety, Kat.
My condolences to you.
I am sure you cannot be this dense and be a STUDENT of Astrology so what is my conclusion other than you want to scapegoat me?

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posted December 24, 2010 11:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
go back and look at your comments on that thread, ami. and refrain from personal insults please. i am tired of walking on eggshells and i have mostly stayed away from you. yet you insist on saying i have bullied and "scapegoated" you. i'm sorry if you were bullied by your mother, but i am NOT HER.

and like i said my battery is dead. take a break from the "mob" and have a nice christmas!

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posted December 24, 2010 11:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, so now it is okay to call people dense and say they have LOW INTELLIGENCE???

RANDALL, AMI IS BREAKING THE RULES, PLEASE READ THIS THREAD AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.!!

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posted December 24, 2010 11:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for firecracker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum27/HTML/000235.html

page one, ami laughing regarding std's.
there it is in black and white, or pink and purple. as you were.


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posted December 24, 2010 11:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am done.You know ,I sit here,thinking,"What am I doing defending myself to a message board.
I have one goal in life--to be an authentic person.
It is my over riding goal.I have it like a passion.
When someone looks in my eyes, I want them to see a REAL person.I want them to be able to tell me their pain, their sorrow, their heartache.
I want to be able to give something back.

You ,guys, have helped me tremendously, to learn about life,real life.

I am so,so,so grateful.
I can never tell you HOW much.
I mean that so sincerely.
Merry Christmas, Ladies

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posted December 24, 2010 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starkiss1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami Anne
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posted December 24, 2010 11:16 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Are you trying to tell me I LAUGHED about STD's?
Well ,if so, I am sorry you are of such low intelligence and subtlety, Kat.
My condolences to you.
I am sure you cannot be this dense and be a STUDENT of Astrology so what is my conclusion other than you want to scapegoat me?

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How dare you say this to people, ami! And then wish them a Merry Xmas with a heart! I have been following your threads with growing amusement and disbelief and I can honestly say I have never seen such an unpleasant and rude comments coming from a LL member since valus' time.
You repulse me.

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posted December 24, 2010 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If someone thinks *I* would laugh about STD's--yes ---that person is being dense and EXHIBITING low intelligence.

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posted December 24, 2010 12:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Everyone just move on. Closing this string now.

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posted December 24, 2010 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonWitch     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 24, 2010 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami, don't insult anyone. That does no good whatsoever.

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