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Hera
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posted August 05, 2012 04:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
what sounds good? haha and why do you say that?

Your action plan sounds good and I said that because I also think fiery women would do you good. We abhor bs as much as you do. You could also try Gems haha.

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posted August 05, 2012 10:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You can look for a Capricorn mars. Get straight to the point. Can be so charming. "Yo baby, nice shoes. You wanna..". LOL. Just kidding.

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posted August 05, 2012 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted August 05, 2012 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
You can look for a Capricorn mars. Get straight to the point. Can be so charming. "Yo baby, nice shoes. You wanna..". LOL. Just kidding.


Heh, that is copyrighted!

They is a time for that, but that is down the road for me at least, first thing is I have to actually like the person and that is where the mysterious facets come into play.

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posted August 05, 2012 04:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RegardesPlatero:
I have a Capricorn Mars and, well, you've seen the typical length of my posts lol. Someone once called me Libra on steroids and that's pretty much me.

Also, @ aquaguy, have your fire girls only been suns/moons? You have Venus in Aqua, right? What about trying a Venus in Sag or Venus in Aries? Even Leo, though it might opposite? (It would also be fixed). I seem to remember you going after a lot of Venus in Scorpios, but that might not be an ideal placement from what you're saying you want and due to past experience.

Also, do you have an Aqua Mars? I forgot where your Mars is, sorry.

I also agree with the suggestion of Gemini.

Honestly, even though you really like Libras, I think that they may not be right for you based on what you want from a girl and a relationship, especially the ones with Venus in Scorpio since that isn't an ideal match for your Aqua Venus. If you don't mind my asking: what is it exactly that draws you to Libra girls and what do you like about them? Is it just a looks/charm thing? What else appeals to you about Libras?

I ask because maybe you could find beauty in other signs--not the same kind of beauty, but beauty nonetheless that is worthy of consideration. And, too, you can obviously have Libra influence without being a Libra. For example, you could find a fire sign lady with a Libra ascendant or other Libra planets.

Even though Libra and Aquarius are both air signs, they do have some important differences in terms of values, outlook, and general interests.

A fire sign would be much more able than a Libra to give you the directness that you want. I would also suggest that fire and earth would be better suited to you than would water and air, though I do think that you might, as someone suggested, be able to make things work with a Gemini girl, depending on the rest of her placements. A fire-earth mix would probably be ideal, though, I think. Fire and earth are both concrete elements. Air and water are more abstract. Of course, it would depend on where they fell, but generally, I think those elements together would be no-frills, no-sense, to-the-point, direct.

Obviously, that's just an outside opinion, but maybe it would be good to consider why exactly you like Libras and if they really are your best match as a sign.


i have a gemini mars. its not that i intentionally seek out libras, it just when i have chemistry plus physical attraction its always a libra, as far as physical attraction is concerned i find all 12 signs can be attractive, but with libras i have the chemistry( we can talk for hours on end) i just havent found that with any of the other signs.i have tried a double sag (sun and moon) with a libra ascendant, nothing.no chemistry

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posted August 05, 2012 07:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't like mystery at all.

I have ended many love affairs because the guy was playing hard-to-get or said that he wasn't all that into a relationship. As soon as I hear those words, my interest immediately begins waning.

One thing I've never understood about men: why do they say they don't want a long-term relationship, and then get all disappointed when you ditch them a week or two later? "I'm not looking for a long-term relationship" implies to me that you are looking for an extremely short-term one. Wish granted.

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posted August 05, 2012 08:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was very attracted to my double-Sag's direct approach. There was no game-playing whatsoever. It was, "I like you, therefore I want to be with you. If I didn't want to be with you, I would not be talking to you right now. Why waste my time?" I hate complexity. Some people think it means depth. I just think it's annoying.

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posted August 05, 2012 08:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
On the topic of hating mystery, my boyfriend used to jerk me around with "let's just take this a day at a time"-type crap. Not needing to know exactly what the future holds. It was like libido-be-gone spray. I'm attracted to the knowing, to the security. When he's insecure about us he talks more about the distant future. And then, oddly, I find him more attractive.

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posted August 05, 2012 08:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
On the topic of hating mystery, my boyfriend used to jerk me around with "let's just take this a day at a time"-type crap. Not needing to know exactly what the future holds. It was like libido-be-gone spray. I'm attracted to the knowing, to the security. When he's insecure about us he talks more about the distant future. And then, oddly, I find him more attractive.

To me though, that is not "mystery" that is mixed signals, one means depth, the other means "I like you..today..tomorrow..I may not"

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posted August 05, 2012 08:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:

One thing I've never understood about men: why do they say they don't want a long-term relationship, and then get all disappointed when you ditch them a week or two later? "I'm not looking for a long-term relationship" implies to me that you are looking for an extremely short-term one. Wish granted.


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posted August 05, 2012 08:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RegardesPlatero:
very well-put!

I used to love the Choose Your Own Adventure books, as a side note--I went to the library all the time as a kid, and those are some of my best memories, so thanks for reminding me of those!


I think there is confusion between mystery and deception.

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posted August 07, 2012 08:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted August 07, 2012 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I also don't think that Libras are a good match for Aquas, and I say this is a heavily Venusian-influenced Aqua born under the Libra decan. I know the appeal of intellecutal, reasonable people who don't yell and who dress well, but Libras are very disloyal romantically and that doesn't sit well with fixed signs. Best to keep them as friends.

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posted August 07, 2012 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Libra's are not only air their Cardinal. I don't think heavily fixed natal charts work well with Cardinal signs unless they have some water or mutability. Aries--> I want therefore I shall take. Cancer---> I feel therefore I shall express. Libra--> I think therefore I shall do. Capricorn -->I lead by production & hard-work

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posted August 07, 2012 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RegardesPlatero:
Attraction is just that--attraction. It's not a good, solid, sturdy foundation for a relationship, and it's never enough to make anything last. Just because you are attracted to someone doesn't mean that the person to whom you are attracted is right for you in terms of compatibility.

Frankly, I really don't feel like Libras are your best match, based on what you've said you liked, and it seems like you enjoy their looks and easy-to-talk-to manner. I notice that you didn't mention Libra's intelligence, fairness, good taste, manners, elegance, appreciating beauty/wanting to make things beautiful, tact, and desire to create balance and harmony as what you liked about Libras. To me, it seems like you're attracted to them more based on their looks and what they represent than other things. As you also mention hating indecision, that is another big obstacle with Libras.

Edit to add: I'd also go as far as to say that I often don't feel like Libras are good matches for Aquas, either. Aside from humanitarian and intellectual things, we really do have very different values. Libra values manners and courtesy; Aquarius is more likely to speak their mind. Libra is more likely to be conventional (at least on the surface) and to keep controversial ideas/opinions private or relegated to close friends. Aquarius is more likely to be proud of being unusual and, as they say, "wave the freak flag" as a badge of pride. Libras are more romantic, even when we're being aloof. Libras tend to follow social rules, or at least try to; Aquarians love breaking them. I could go on, but suffice to say that even with both being air signs, there are big differences.

I'll also be honest, speaking as a Libra: just because we like to talk to someone doesn't mean that we're into that person. We're naturally chatty. So, if you go into things with a Libra thinking that her conversing with you mean something, you could be seeing things very differently than she does, and might be mistaking chemistry for a Libra simply enjoying socializing and conversation. Some Libras (not me personally though) are also very flirty, without it meaning anything. Speaking as a woman, just because I like to hang out with or talk to someone of the opposite sex/gender does not mean that I'm romantically interested.

It's hard to tell at times if a Libra is really interested. It's hard for others to know our true thoughts and feelings. I'd add that it is probably even harder if said Libra has Scorpio influence.
Sometimes, too, it's hard for us Libras to make up our minds or to know how we feel--and even when we do know, we can also be conflicted.

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You may have to trade off some attraction for real compatibility. I'm not saying that you should date someone who disgusts or repulses you, just that it might be better to go out with someone who may have less beauty, but who is compatible, as opposed to someone not interested and incompatible with a pretty face.

Think of it this way: going after the wrong type is like buying candy that has nice packaging and is presented nicely, but it does not have a taste that you really enjoy. Sure, it looks amazing, but it isn't satisfying. Now, a more plain but tasty piece of candy may not look like much, but will make your tastebuds happy.

Pure lust cannot satisfy for very long.

If you don't mind me asking--and you don't have to answer--but have you ever rejected girls that liked you because of their appearance, even if you got along well with them? You mention not having chemistry with fire sign girls, but did you like them as people? Would you be compatible?

Again, I'm not saying that you should go out with any girl that would ask (or say yes), or that you should go out with someone if they make you gag or anything like that--just that you cast your net in a different part of the ocean, so to speak.



lol as i said its not just the physical attraction, libras are the sign i like most overall. the biggest reason is i like talking and communicating with them, i have a third house moon, so that is very important to me. i just enjoy them (other women bore me) but libras always have something interesting to say. everything has been smooth sailing with libras except the lack of directness and lack of loyalty at times,surely there are some libras who can be direct and loyal.

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posted August 08, 2012 06:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I didn't mean unfaithful, I'm not talking about sexual fidelity, I'm talking about loyalty. Libras are in love with love so when it's not sunshine, daisies and roses, they're onto the next one, because the object of the affection is less important than the idealistic, abstract concept of love. They can easily fall in love with someone else again. I wasn't talking about cheating, I was talking about the frequent dumping that Libras I've observed tend to do.


Having said this, I also really like the sign. But I've observed this of Libras. They are so in love with love that they'd actually rather be single than have a real human being soil their "vision" of the perfect relationship. They make excellent friends in my experience, I'd say they are very loyal friends.

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posted August 08, 2012 07:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As an aside, I'm not convinced that sexual fidelity has much to do with astrology. In addition to Lindaland, another site I tend to frequent is scienceofrelationships.com and there are physiological predictors of that that are much more consistent than anything in a birth chart imho. For instance, why are young women so uch more likely to cheat than their postmenopausal counterparts?
1) Higher hormone levels
2) Greater opportunity.

It's not like their birth charts change after 40.

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posted August 08, 2012 11:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RegardesPlatero:
Well, Libras are known for being good conversationalists, this is true. However, Geminis are also good at this, especially if they have Mercury in Gemini.

A Gemini would be a better match for you than a Libra, honestly. Given that you have Mars there, I'm surprised that you aren't more drawn to them. If you could find a Gem with a compatible moon/Mercury, find one who was raised to be more reliable and dependable and/or one who had those values, and maybe if that Gem has something good in her chart that hits your third house, that could work.

It really sounds like it's the conversation and charm that appeals to you most about Libras. While as a Mercury in Libra, I strongly, strongly agree about the importance of communication, you have to have other areas of compatibility.

Let me ask: why are you so hung up on Libras and being so stubborn about trying other signs? I mean, I know that you have a lot of fixed and earth influence, but why is it that Libra is like "The One Sign to Rule them All" for you when it comes to relationships--why not at least be more open to other signs? It just seems like you're holding onto this 'thing' or fixation that you have with that sign. While it's good to know what you want, and to have values, etc., holding on to Libras may be preventing you from seeing other girls of different signs may be a better match for you, based on what you have said that you want.

I guess to use an analogy, it's like continuing to eat bad food when you have a medical condition that said food aggravates. The food tastes good, but makes you sick. Likewise, going after Libras is like giving yourself relationship indigestion, if that makes sense. The more you eat, the sicker you'll get--as in, the more you go after the wrong type of girl, the more frustrated you will get.

And expecting a Libra to be direct is not realistic. I mean, I'm a Sagittarius ascendant, and even I am not direct unless really pushed (and on here). If even that Sag influence can't make me direct, nothing can. For me to be direct is extremely difficult, and I have to really feel safe with a person to open up like that and risk conflict/unpleasantness. You can't change the basic Libra nature. Yes, other influences can modify it, but it's like I've said before: it's like cake. Change the frosting and other modifications all that you like, but the base flavor is the same and will always be there.

Some Aquarius-Libra relationships can work, but again, I just don't feel like they are the best match in many cases. In your case, with your need for directness and decisiveness, I feel that you keep going around in circles. There's this 'banging your head against the wall' kind of feeling. I don't remember the exact quote, or who said it first, but there's a thing about "doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results". I feel that this is what is happening here.



its not that i'm fixated on libras, they are just the sign that i have the most chemistry with. i dont seek them out, its just everytime i find someone who i have the said chemistry and mutual attraction, they happen to be a libra. i have tried dating other signs: leos, taurus, cancer,sagitarius,aries, virgo, scorpio and capricorn. thats over half of the zodiac right there lol! and the only one i have real chemistry with is libra,thats just the way its been. now i am not close minded , if i meet
a girl and i like her , i dont give a flying flip what her sign is.

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