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aquaguy91
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posted December 08, 2012 11:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i dont
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Originally posted by Faith:
To me, if you are looking for the bad in people, you will find it. If you have negative expectations of women, it's going to affect your interactions.

I always have positive expectations. Even if a girl is a b*tch to me at first, I usually laugh it off and assume we will get along better once she gets to know me.

If you can't see how your attitude becomes self-fulfilling prophesy, your life will be controlled by that blindness.


i dont expect it to happen it just does, even if i have a positive attitude. generally i give everyone the benefit of the doubt, but i'd be lying if i told you i have a positive attitude when i meet women, i feel more neutral then anything.

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libraschoice77
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posted December 08, 2012 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice77     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Have had problems in before making female friends, usually I have been seen as the girl that guys see as one of the guys. This was mostly so back when I was in college. I was the girl guys wanted to talk with about other girls lol. The few female friends I would make would end up using me, or stabbing me in the back, so after awhile I just stopped trying to befriend other women.

It made dating for me very difficult, guys generally dont want to date a girl who has just guy friends. People would want to know where my girlfriends were? They found me odd:/

Have rough aspects to my Sun though, Mars square Sun, Sun square Moon, and Sun square Jupiter. Which would make me think it would be the opposite situation.

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posted December 08, 2012 11:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RedScorp:
Hahahaha! See? Guys don't shun me, no, but guys who are image concious generally don't wanna be seen with me. People sometimes ask, or the guys fear they'll be asked, "are you two f!cking?"

I'm content with my lady friends.


Well u do have lady friends. Who are creepily under age for me!

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Faith
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posted December 08, 2012 11:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
You see the genders through the lens of your life( and your chart) If you have good aspects to the Sun and bad to the moon, you will trust men more than woman and vice-versa imho


I have seriously bad aspects to both, yet I like men and women equally. I just prefer to be with women because it's less complicated.

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Faith
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posted December 08, 2012 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
i dont i dont expect it to happen it just does, even if i have a positive attitude. generally i give everyone the benefit of the doubt, but i'd be lying if i told you i have a positive attitude when i meet women, i feel more neutral then anything.

Oh so you are totally different in real life? Because here, you constantly make it known that you don't get along with women. So I've just been wondering when it's my turn to be branded "just another woman I can't get along with."

If I walked around complaining about men all the time, and then said that I have "neutral" expectations when I interact with them, I think people would laugh and say that is total BS.

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ail221
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posted December 08, 2012 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I prefer hanging with female friends, gay male friends and altering BFF's every few years. I have tried the whole mixed group of "Friends" in the past and things always get messy, literally a episode of "Friends" with the inter-dating.

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aquaguy91
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posted December 08, 2012 01:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
Oh so you are totally different in real life? Because here, you constantly make it known that you don't get along with women. So I've just been wondering when it's my turn to be branded "just another woman I can't get along with."

If I walked around complaining about men all the time, and then said that I have "neutral" expectations when I interact with them, I think people would laugh and say that is total BS.


just being honest lol.also i dont walk around complaining about women irl.... see thats the beauty of the internet,you can express your views and feelings behind the cloak of anonymity,things you wouldnt be allowed to express elsewhere. being a third house moon "letting stuff out" is crucial for me and helps me feel better. lots of times when i post i'm angry in that moment and that anger probably comes across in my posts, but you know what? it is therapeutic and helps me feel better.i'm not some angry hot head that goes around taking my rage out on women, not by a mile. if ya'll were to meet me in real life you'd see that i'm very calm and reasonable most of the time, but i do get angry and tend to get diarrhea of the mouth when i do lmao (blame it on third house moon and mars). so i'd like to ask ya'll to keep that in mind and dont take it personally...i like everyone here for the most part, so it has nothing to do with ya'll,so again dont take it personally. since i'm being so open here the reason i'm forced to write about my issues with women here instead of face to face with them is because women(being the highly emotional creatures they are) tend to make it about them and their feelings. they are soo caught up in their emotions and drama that they wont even recognize yours, this just leaves you feeling more and more frustrated. i suspect this is a big reason lots of men close off and dont express their emotions (listen girls i'm giving you pearls here lol) because theres just not enough room.and when i come here and vent the anger/frustration i cant vent in the real world i'm met with the same stuff..people take it personally and make it about them (when it has niothing to do with them)and lash out in anger at me and place the blame on me, this does nothing but stoke the fire and only reinforces my experiences . so i'd like to request that ya'll dont take anything i say personally, if you are going to chime in try to be helpful and supportive. and if you wish to kick me when i'm down that is alright too, i'm not about stifling free speech. but if you must do so just realize that its not helping me at all.

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Ami Anne
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posted December 08, 2012 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
yes ami anne. i have sun trine mars and sun opposite jupiter. my experience with men has been overwhelmingly positive and my venus and moon are afflicted and my experiences with women has been anything but. its to the point where i was talking with a gay guy and he was complaining about the gay community and how shallow and unfaithful gay men are and i told him i wish i was gay lol. but alas i am not.

Yep, one sees through the lens of the chart--always, for easy things and hard things

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posted December 08, 2012 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaturnineMoth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
um...

you remind me soooooo much of my lil' brother~ aquaguy!~ ^^

I wouldn't take it personal and respect your need to vent, fully!~ your far from sounding misogynistic and don't come off as the physically violent type, and you don't womanize/objectify ladies either (such men can seem so rare at times!) ...more like the old fashioned, young Southern gentlemen I was regaled with on my stay in Georgia years ago-type a fella'... horse of a different colour from what I was use to dealing with up NE~

my only observation is that you "need understanding" but we all do at some point or other in our lives- for the other sex, and even our own. it's like Short Circuit, "need more input" lol - nothing wrong there~

- sometimes (I feel) it comes down to that moment we let our guard down and let go of our expectations that we can finally gain acceptance and understanding with each other.

no? (not to hippy of an ideal, maybe?)


um... that's all I wanted to say~
I think your pretty cool - and funny... a bit cynical and bitter... but in today's world you're not the only one~ haha x_X

But, I'm partially biased... of course.


--- ah ~ lens of the chart
@ Amiiii, is it my Chiron to Moon aspect that makes it difficult for me to "emotionally" see things from the normal womanly perspective then? oO; (never thought of it that way) disabled femininity?? maybe?
that would make so much sense, it's scary~ ><
(sorry for goin' all off topic again grrrrr damn my ADD) just curious~ ^^;

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Ami Anne
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posted December 08, 2012 01:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What is your exact aspect SM?

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SaturnineMoth
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posted December 08, 2012 02:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaturnineMoth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
they're conjunct

Taurus IX
23° 56'22" Moon Nibiru (H) *Zaurak* Amatarasu
24° Gerda Typhon
25° *Algol* *Alpha Caelum*
26° Hephaistos Hermia Nehalennia Dike
27° Helio
28° 2'46"R Chiron

lol (too weird) with Sun @ 23° 4' 5" Capricorn V

>.< ~_~ he's attached (trine 26° Virgo h1) to my Karma too..

no rest for the wicked... ugh

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Ami Anne
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posted December 08, 2012 02:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
5 degrees is not too bad, though, but still would be much pain from woman and your own emotions are associated with pain. Does that fit?

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posted December 08, 2012 02:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaturnineMoth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Astro counts it at a 4 --- sorry lol left the house ><

It's probably the only close negative aspect in my natal - I feel it more because of this i believe

Yes that does seem to fitting tho

Very complex asteroid body
On one hand it teaches us to learn from our wounds
And on the other it holds us back with our wounds ><;

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posted December 08, 2012 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Suntiger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I find it easier to connect to women because I grew up in a female dominant family on both sides (when a baby is due, we're always wishing for a boy!), so it's just what I'm used to.

I have a harder time understanding men. I don't think it's their fault lol. Their ways of communication or expressing their needs/wants just flies over my head and unless they ALMOST spell it out, I won't get it lol.I've always had other people translate for me (this was also a problem since I'm bilingual and there were a LOT of cultural differences when it came down to ways of communication) so that I wouldn't offend anyone and try to understand all points of view.

In the USA, I tend to be friends with gay men more. I just understand them ahahaha. They're like my mediator and explain what goes on from a woman's AND a guy's point of view. This might sound silly, but have you ever tried talking to lesbian women? Maybe they can help?

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posted December 08, 2012 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Well u do have lady friends. Who are creepily under age for me!

Lmfao! Anyone who calls you fine, eh? There is this one girl I work with who's a whole year older than me...so...

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sand
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posted December 09, 2012 10:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
14 is still underage le redscorp!

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posted December 09, 2012 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rofl how old are you redscorp?

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aquaguy91
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posted December 09, 2012 11:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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14 is still underage le redscorp!

is it underage in the phillipines? j/k

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posted December 09, 2012 12:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mockingbird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I tend to get along better with males.

5h 22d Pisces Sun
3h 1d Aqua Moon
Scorp Asc
1h Scorp Uranus
4h Pisces Merc rx
7h 7d Taurus Venus
10h 29d Leo Mars rx

I was always the little girl running around outside in bare feet, throwing sticks for the dogs, and lifting up logs to find salamanders and toads. By the end of every summer, my soles were rock hard, my skin was a brown, and my hair was streaked with gold.

In the fall and winter, I'd wonder through the woods surrounding my house, help haul wood, keep our wood stove burning (it was my special job), buzz through book after book, and wear my NES out
(Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A.)

My interests just weren't the same as most other little girls - though, to be fair, they only aligned with those of select boys as well.

Then, I started "developing" early on.
I needed a bra by the 5th grade and by the time I was 12 I was a skinny 5'9'' with a D cup.
10-12-year-olds aren't mature enough to handle the attention that that can garner. When (mostly older) guys noticed, I was mortified, even ashamed. Many of the preteen girls surrounding me started to get really cruel - I'm guessing because I was a foot taller than them and had hips and breasts.
In retrospect, this is probably what caused me to double-down on my tomboyishness.
If you're one of the guys, no one will notice that you're stacked.
>_>
<_<
>_>
Or, I guess that that was my reasoning.

I still get along much better with (geeky) guys than with most girls.
As some others have mentioned, though, this has proven problematic now that I'm in "everyone's married (or about to be)" age cohort.
Most women don't take it well when you get along better with their husbands/boyfriends than you do them. Perhaps because I'm Pisces Sun, I've been quite cognizant of this and have pulled back.

Luckily for me, two things have come to pass:

* I've married and am best friends with a wonderfully geeky man
* THE POWER OF THE INTERNET(NET-NET-NET) has allowed me to meet and/or keep in touch with other women who are in the same boat, or at least the same fleet

Edited to add:
And the universe, in its infinite wisdom and humor, has seen fit to give me three daughters

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posted December 09, 2012 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
mockingbird
You are and have been one of my favorite women I have met here at LL.
Keep on just being cool you!

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posted December 09, 2012 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Rofl how old are you redscorp?

LOL! I'm old enough to be in Sweet Peas, though that didn't stop me before I was old enough!

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posted December 09, 2012 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaturnineMoth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@ mockingbird - ! everything you said ---> right here ---> ditto~

(well except I never developed... lol
>.> ... --- ... <.<
it's okay if I'm still waiting on that one... right? haha)

You LL ladies are the best! <3

~~~ lol idk why but the NES button code you used up there reminded me of street fighter --- oh but that would have been SNES... I think - can't remember... oh dear - gettin' old~ >.< lmao

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posted December 09, 2012 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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LOL! I'm old enough to be in Sweet Peas, though that didn't stop me before I was old enough!

So basically your saying

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SaturnineMoth
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posted December 09, 2012 05:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaturnineMoth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ is that from star golden bell lmao (reminds me of it)

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posted December 09, 2012 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SaturnineMoth:
^ is that from star golden bell lmao (reminds me of it)


LMFAO YES!

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