posted December 08, 2012 02:07 AM            

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Originally posted by RedScorp:
I'm a total ladies man. I just get along better with females than I do with males. My mom has asked me before why I don't have male friends, and I have male acquaintances, but I don't regularly hang out with any guys. All my bffs are females (except sand!).

I can make friends with guys, and I'm pretty chummy with many a dude, but in general, females and I stick. Really though, men often assume/wonder if I'm gay and I'm certain that contributes to it. I'm honestly quite different from your average male; so I think to other guys, we're just too different.

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posted December 08, 2012 02:24 AM            

I do not get along with guys at the start. Scorp ascendant comes on strong. That is before we speak.

posted December 08, 2012 03:08 AM            

Early on I had only male friends - because I was the first girl in my family - and I often interacted with my older cousins, and their friends - Made me a tomboy. ~^^~

Girls don't really play with frogs and worms and salamanders for long - they move onto makeup and babydolls and barbies or w/e...

I was still climbing trees and playing with boys~

then you get into about middle school? maybe around then... that's when *crushes* start and girls start drifting off into puppylove with every this that and the other fellar'!
I was still unaffected for the most part (granted I had my first crush in 6th grade which did last until 12th) - anyway - I had a half dozen girlfriends - that was it really... any other interaction was because of circumstance and never lasted very long... not so much a hostile or resentful difference between the others and myself--- just not connection. yup. I was sociable - but it was that super awkward phase~ @_@ total dork around then~ but the guys still stuck by~

here's where things really got bizarre and started changing for the dynamic~

since I had all the guy friends - those other girls wanted -in- ~ obviously to get to guy ABC... so by buddy-ing up with the tomboy they'd have a chance, right? --- if that didn't work for them (usually it wouldn't - ty Scorpion placements for giving me some of those keen eyes for bullsh^t) - they'd turn their backs on you, and well stab yours in the process...

so the innocent tomboy - becomes the class ***** ... why? cause she's got male friends...... ah the glory of those troublesome years! ~

things only get worse when you shed your tomboy/preppy skin and your actual reputation gets out there... in my case, I'd dated only 2 boys in my school (different ages/classes) - made everything worse with the girl's because I didn't like the one, and didn't wanna lead him on when I couldn't like him... so by dumping him ---- I was now a certified b^tch, and a playette~ hah

add to that the other fella' being called a "trophy" boyfriend - and the girl becomes even more heavily targeted... by her own gender/bullying -

it doesn't stop with high school~ it continues...

I still get along better with groups of men... I still can't fully trust women - because they've always been on the offensive with me, and fear of the pattern repeating keeps me on guard. With the exception of a few younger women, I don't get on well with meeting new women/befriending them at all. With guys it's usually very natural to idk blend in~ (much to my husband's chagrin)

I don't have umpteen guyfriends here now~ back home yes~ well way more than in the teens hah --- guys don't talk back and forth about ya'~ they don't like something they say it straight away... they are more than accepting of my sexual preferences (which sometimes bothers women) because I'm not "straight" --- guys are just cool with w/e... ime~ they keep me laughin' and when they care they are 10x more honest, and supportive, and have way better advice on subjects that come up than chicks do about 90% of the time... sad but true~

I like women just fine - but I don't trust them anymore... lol

<<< prefers being one of the guys~

(but steps out when it's *brotime* oh and totally - *makes for a great wingman* lol)

I still don't get what the big deal is with half the stuff women like~ =x haha I often thought years ago if I knew more about hair makeup and fashion I could fit in with em..... and god awful pop music... so now, I know a lot about shoes, hair, makeup, and fashion - whereas they just buy these things by trend/brand (lemmings).... X_X women!~ lol

--- as per my nightly apology for errors in spelling/punctuation-grammar~ sorry - but my eyes are failing me again. </3 I'll edit tomorrow if I have to make sense of myself - haha sorry tho~

posted December 08, 2012 03:58 AM            

the nice ones are dull! lol so true!
the other ones are jaded or untrustworthy
~~~ and all my female friends are online now... lol (I do still have my original group of gal-pals back home - or wherever they're adventuring off too atm) but, mostly I'm the same~ keep to myself - try to stay out of trouble, and keep the cross hairs off my back... including those from my wrongfully jealous husband... >< Most the time now the only interaction with women I have is either my son's school teachers, playground moms at random times, and the husband's relatives... and they all look down on me like I'm a few knobs short of a television. - but I don't care for them anyhow~ it's very superficial having to try and concern yourself even casually sometime with these others... it's not that i find them all shallow or that I think I'm any better in any way~ I just don't like the mind games, or the hidden agendas, double entendre... it gets old, or jut gets me old~ hah and genetically speaking it's the last thing I want to be concerned with... rather have fun with a few guy friends then sulk with the girls. =x always sounds like blasphemy when you choose the other side~ aye? lol does for me...

posted December 08, 2012 04:35 AM            

Since I was a young girl I have always found myself relating to men much easier. I was out there in the woods catching salamanders at recess with them, instead of playing jump rope or hop scotch with the girls. I've always been more comfortable with guys, since i was born. I was lucky to be blessed with a sibling that was a brother.

Guys have been always been easier for me. Whether straight or gay. I would love to have more girlfriends, but it doesnt happen as easily or quickly. Ive gone out of my way to be friends with them, and have made some good ones, but it's usually the guys that I understand more or mesh better with. Without even trying. I am like one of the guys when I am around them, i just relate to their energy better or something. It's not anything sexual. I also get on great with gay guys. I tend to love them and connect with them instantly and easily too.

I'm grateful for a good girlfriend when I make one. It just doesnt happen as often. Id like it too but it doesnt. It's easier for me to talk to a guy, hang out with a bunch of dudes than connect with a female.

When I do find a girlfriend I can connect with, I treasure it and usually have a lot of fun with them. Most of my old ones have fallen off the face of the earth, have a few kids and we've just grown apart.

I think it's even harder to make female friends as a woman gets older.

posted December 08, 2012 05:36 AM            

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I would not be BFF's with redscorp in real life.

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Hahahaha! See? Guys don't shun me, no, but guys who are image concious generally don't wanna be seen with me. People sometimes ask, or the guys fear they'll be asked, "are you two f!cking?"

posted December 08, 2012 06:03 AM            

My friend, on the other hand, is like SaturnineMoth. She has Capricorn/Scorpio placements as well. Having grown up with three brothers, she has no problem connecting to guys. However, I find it interesting that for a long time she was jealous of her sister and does get rejected by women a lot. Emotionally, she is a girl (aesthetically as well, dresses up, etc.) but subject-wise she can relate to traditional "guy" topics because of her brothers. Damn that advantage... Me on the other hand, emotionally I'm a guy but I like girly subjects and dressing up. I try learning about technology or video games but...I just don't care!

posted December 08, 2012 06:54 AM            

Now is that why I was a tomboy growing up? I don't know. It could be I was originally shunned by girls in my neighborhood (but not all girls) so that at home I was forced to play with boys for years. It could also be that the vast majority of my natal chart is male (Libra, Sag, Leo ascendant). Nevertheless I didn't fully attune to the boys (and got one boy in trouble by convincing him to play dress up with me and then both of us showing off to his parents...they didn't react to their boy dressed as a girl well at all...) and was tremendously relieved when a girl I could relate to (and felt an instant bond with, and she was shunned by the other neighborhood girls as I was) moved near me. As we got older we fooled around sexually for awhile and she always had me be the boy...and when the memories of my past life as a pirate flooded into me I recognized one of my wives (I had 2 wives in 2 different ports centuries ago) as being her, and the pain I felt at her dying in this life was similar to the pain she'd felt when I, as her husband, died (or more precisely never returned, though she believed in her heart I was dead as no one saw the ship I was on ever again, or the others who sailed with me).

With the exception of my best friend (whom I liked above all others, at least there) I got along with boys better back then, though I did have girls I was close to as well. I was 17 before I started mixing with both genders equally, though I remained a tomboy into my early 20s before I discovered and embraced my feminine side and then I started hanging around women more (though I had more casual male friends & acquaintances), an interesting reverse from when I was tomboyish and mixed more comfortably with males.

posted December 08, 2012 08:19 AM            

I really love my woman friends. How can anyone not like women? I don't get the generalizations against them...there is almost a sexist tone here.

Maybe I am not like other women (lots of masculine planets, and a Cap sun, which isn't exactly feminine on the surface)...I've been told that by men. And other women say the group dynamic changes a bit when I'm there. (It also changes whenever a man is there, so maybe it's my "guy" vibe.)

My best friend (woman) tolerates other women, and she loves me, but she would always choose the company of men over women if she could help it.

I would always choose the company of women.

When I was single talking to single men, that was fine, I had a lot of guy friends. But being married now and talking to married men, that makes me feel kinda weird. Especially if the guy ignores his wife while talking to me. Which happens all the time since I am so fascinating.

Kidding, I don't think it's because I'm fascinating, but it does happen a lot. And to avoid hard feelings anywhere (Pisces moon), I don't go beyond small talk with a guy after he shows he is the type who totally ignores his wife while talking to other people.

posted December 08, 2012 08:30 AM            

My Mother, who has Venus sq Mars was never comfortable being a woman. I think she wanted to be a man, so she could get ahead in a man's world. I think you can get ahead in a man's world, while still being feminine.

Your chart will, always, show what is easy and what is hard, for you.

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posted December 08, 2012 09:19 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
^ That is soooo cool, that you were a pirate.

I really love my woman friends. How can anyone not like women? I don't get the generalizations against them...there is almost a sexist vibe here.

Maybe I am not like other women (lots of masculine planets, and a Cap sun, which isn't exactly feminine on the surface)...I've been told that by men. And other women say the group dynamic changes a bit when I'm there. (It also changes whenever a man is there, so maybe it's my "guy" vibe.)

My best friend (woman) tolerates other women, and she loves me, but she would always choose the company of men over women if she could help it.

I would always choose the company of women.

When I was single talking to single men, that was fine, I had a lot of guy friends. But being married now and talking to married men, that makes me feel kinda weird. Especially if the guy ignores his wife while talking to me. Which happens all the time since I am so fascinating.

Kidding, I don't think it's because I'm fascinating, but it does happen a lot. And to avoid hard feelings anywhere (Pisces moon), I don't go beyond small talk with a guy after he shows he is the type who totally ignores his wife while talking to other people.

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posted December 08, 2012 09:46 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
interesting,because i've always felt like men get a bum rap. theres lots of generalizations about women being kinder and more loving etc and men are meaner and more violent. but my experience has been that women can be just as mean spirited as men, maybe possibly even worse because they are more sneaky about it.

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Women are more sneaky, huh?

Actually, I don't make generalizations like that about either sex. I don't have any idea why other people are supposedly seeing patterns that I don't see.

posted December 08, 2012 09:56 AM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
I'm equal opportunity. Can't get along with either and treat both like sh1t. . I fly solo. . Now, a stack of Benjies has never talked bad to me or treated me bad... Just kidding.

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posted December 08, 2012 10:09 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Women are more sneaky, huh?

Actually, I don't make generalizations like that about either sex. I don't have any idea why other people are supposedly seeing patterns that I don't see.

Both sexes have amazing people and fake people. It's up to you to find ones you can build some trust with.

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posted December 08, 2012 10:20 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:

well thats what makes this whole thing soo interesting.. because people have different experiences. like the guy i was having the discussion with that gave me the idea to start this thread...he has been bullied ,made fun of and excluded by guys his whole life, so he isnt generalizing when he says men are assholes because thats been his experience. while i'm not really generalizing when i say women are sneaky because just here recently a group of women were secretly trying to get me fired from my job while smiling to my face.. why were they doing this? because they dont like me.. why dont they like me? no reason,they just dont lol.thats whats soo interesting to me about the whole thing, why are certain people targeted?

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To me, if you are looking for the bad in people, you will find it. If you have negative expectations of women, it's going to affect your interactions.

I always have positive expectations. Even if a girl is a b*tch to me at first, I usually laugh it off and assume we will get along better once she gets to know me.

posted December 08, 2012 10:25 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Faith:
[b] Women are more sneaky, huh?

Actually, I don't make generalizations like that about either sex. I don't have any idea why other people are supposedly seeing patterns that I don't see.

Both sexes have amazing people and fake people. It's up to you to find ones you can build some trust with.

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You and you friend do generelize since you have yet to meet every single man/woman there are out there and see if they are all the same

I used to think all men are pigs and idiots but i have seen many different sides to people...the person you think he is might be a completly different person in reality

posted December 08, 2012 10:40 AM            

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posted December 08, 2012 10:56 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
You see the genders through the lens of your life( and your chart) If you have good aspects to the Sun and bad to the moon, you will trust men more than woman and vice-versa imho

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posted December 08, 2012 10:56 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
You see the genders through the lens of your life( and your chart) If you have good aspects to the Sun and bad to the moon, you will trust men more than woman and vice-versa imho

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