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Topic: am i the only one who gets annoyed by all the pop positivity?
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aquaguy91
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From: tennessee
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted March 25, 2013 06:35 PM
  
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Originally posted by Padre35:
The difference is, it does take a positive frame of mind to leave the comfortable in sake of embracing the unknown and potentially better, situation. I've seen countless people trap themselves all the time...
nope, not neccesarily true. Alot of people go into new things nervous and not knowing what to expect . I can attest to the fact that I have gone into situations with a negative attitude and came out ok, I have also gone into situations with a positive attitude and failed miserably.
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Padre35
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posted March 25, 2013 06:36 PM
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Originally posted by T:
Well, yes. You don't want to get stuck there obviously. But not not allow yourself time to sort out the negative first either and hopefully make your own peace with it at some point. Because it will rear it's head later on if you don't.
Sure, but you also don't just stop yourself b/c there are downsides, you evaluate, make your plan and deal with the negativity when it arises, not before hand. It's not pie in the sky everything will be a beautiful, it is more the upside means embracing the potential downside to the situation.
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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted March 25, 2013 06:38 PM
Every risk position I have is hedged. Taking naked risks is not only imprudent. It is irrational. I find it a much better strategy to give up minimal upside to hedge out downside and lock in an assured return. The markets have very successful investors with that strategy, as opposed to the fly by night big bang return n00bs that are slaughtered daily. IP: Logged |
Padre35
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posted March 25, 2013 06:39 PM
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
No one is talking about having backs against walls. The competent ones never have their backs against walls because they would have strategerized like W Bush. 
Ah, the man with his back against the wall generates the focused, complete objectivity, that life sometimes requires. One has no time for BS, the issues are very clear, and right in front of you, they must be dealt with and "positively" speaking, they will work out as you have no time or patience for anything that does not deal with the problem at hand. Once solved, extract your lesson, become stronger for it..and never make the same mistake again.
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Padre35
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posted March 25, 2013 06:42 PM
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Every risk position I have is hedged. Taking naked risks is not only imprudent. It is irrational.
Ah, potentially the most profitable though. If one is going to take that much risk, one had better be well compensated for it otherwise that is just a crap situation and as Sun Tzu mentioned "..you did not plan well enough, leave while you still can.."
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Padre35
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posted March 25, 2013 06:43 PM
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Padre35:
[b]The difference is, it does take a positive frame of mind to leave the comfortable in sake of embracing the unknown and potentially better, situation. I've seen countless people trap themselves all the time...
nope, not neccesarily true. Alot of people go into new things nervous and not knowing what to expect . I can attest to the fact that I have gone into situations with a negative attitude and came out ok, I have also gone into situations with a positive attitude and failed miserably.[/B][/QUOTE]I suspect positivity and outcome is being mixed, sure no one really knows how things will turn out, all positivity offers is the willingness to engage and see what happens. IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways
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posted March 25, 2013 06:44 PM
Padre, my strategy has done very well. My employer won't pay me if saying No to business doesn't make sense. And I run a very large portfolio of assets. IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways
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posted March 25, 2013 06:45 PM
One big loss and you are toast. Go learn your lessons on someone else's dime. Not many organizations have tolerance for eight figure losses.  I manage in the eleven figures. Ok? IP: Logged |
Padre35
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posted March 25, 2013 06:48 PM
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
One big loss and you are toast. Go learn your lessons on someone else's dime. Not many organizations have tolerance for eight figure losses.
Sure they do, as long as you make 10 figures on a different deal.. I get where you are coming from YTA, to me though creation is more important. Anyone can check a bet, guys who know what they are doing push all in and don't think twice about it. IP: Logged |
Lexxigramer
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From: The Etheric Realms...Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat...& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion!
Registered: Feb 2012
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posted March 25, 2013 07:16 PM
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Originally posted by Padre35:
No, not at all, the alternative is to not see life as opportunities but as a never ending series of unfortunate events.To me, negativity is a sign of mental weakness and lack of positive ego.
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
this is where you and i differ greatly in opinions . Having a negative attitude is not weak, giving up is weak. And having a negative attitude doesnt always mean you have given up. I have read lots of combat memoirs of soldiers and they all have said the same things. All these guys were fully expecting to never make it back home and were constantly stressed and scared, some nearly lost their sanity and lost complete faith in humanity and/or God, but they never gave up and kept fighting and to me that is true courage. if you have a realistic attitude and know that you might fail miserably but you still try your best anyway you are mentally tough in my book.
I agree.
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Lexxigramer
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From: The Etheric Realms...Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat...& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion!
Registered: Feb 2012
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posted March 25, 2013 07:17 PM
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Having a realistic attitude allows you to step back, evaluate and assess the situation. No sense attacking the insurmountable, even if you have the most positive attitude. Pressing forth isn't always the right solution. Sun Tzu. The Art of War.
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Lexxigramer
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From: The Etheric Realms...Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat...& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion!
Registered: Feb 2012
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posted March 26, 2013 05:23 PM
Screw positive thinking.
We have struggled and struggled and still did our best to be positive and hold on.
Then as usual;
we get shafted and stomped on and smashed to the ground.
My husband almost died a few weeks ago.
We have been trying to adjust and move forward with "positive thinking".
Well what a fraking joke.
The voucher we got for his insulin was sadly a one time thing.
Went to refill his insulin and
WE CANNOT AFFORD IT.
NOW WHAT??????????????????
I am supposed to be on it too.
Well geeez.......
household income is less than all our drugs cost a month.
So I do without and so does he.
I guess we should just give up and die.
Positive thinking is a joke.
Basically we are already dead its just torturing us first.
Tired of calling begging for help.
@!$%^& Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
We are screwed and that is that.
He will get sicker and then so will I.
And we die.
Yippie.
So when I suddenly drop out of sight,
giving a heads up here so do not be surprised.
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blondiepowers
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Registered: Mar 2013
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posted March 27, 2013 06:35 PM
I do not believe in it. I believe in my chart.IP: Logged |
Padre35
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From: Asheville, NC, US
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posted March 27, 2013 06:42 PM
Lexxi have you tried any of the much less expensive overseas pharmacies for your insulin?There is that. IP: Logged |
Odette
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posted March 27, 2013 06:45 PM
I don't think the power is in just 'positive thinking'.I think the power is in having an inner feeling of I CAN DO this.. and I WILL DO IT no matter what - come hell or high-water.... The sheer force and energy involved in having that kind of determination... the determination to be what you want to be or where you want to be or who you want to be with - That can be powerful. It can move mountains and have a physical impact on the world around you. If you keep your eye on the ball - the ball is yours. If you get distracted... not so much... IP: Logged |
Odette
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posted March 27, 2013 06:48 PM
Lexx - Despite the things you have been through - you are a very determined person. You are not someone who gives up. You're a fighter.
"positive thinking" sounds too airy fairy to me. The kind of 'thinking' I see as positive is rolling with the punches of life and not letting it kill the essence of *you*. IP: Logged |
Padre35
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From: Asheville, NC, US
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posted March 27, 2013 06:53 PM
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Originally posted by Odette:
Lexx - Despite the things you have been through - you are a very determined person. You are not someone who gives up. You're a fighter.
"positive thinking" sounds too airy fairy to me. The kind of 'thinking' I see as positive is rolling with the punches of life and not letting it kill the essence of *you*.
Disagree Odette, it is not secret the economy is not doing well in some areas right now. So needed some money to do some things around the house and kept thinking all week "yeah, something will sell, something will sell this week" Monday sold a book on Amazon for 300 dollars, a single book. Granted if you never put the book up for sale, you'd never sell it, still it is rare to sell one for that much money and right when one could use the extra cash. IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways
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posted March 27, 2013 06:54 PM
Woah woah. Who makes the insulin syringes? Mercx? Pfizer? Astra Zeneca? Roche? Call up their VP of Public Relations and they will ship you product for free. Big Pharma may be many things but they are not as3hole3s. Tertiary hospitals also have a standby supply. If you want, I'll call the respective CEOs myself on your behalf. Amgen contributed $90K in vials to save my kid's life. Stanford forgave over $1 million in bills. United Airlines gave me $100K worth in free flights. Citigroup loaned my kid a whole executive jet plus crew plus jet fuel for. cross country medical emergency. There are ways. You need to get heard!! There are people around to help you!!IP: Logged |
mockingbird
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posted March 27, 2013 07:00 PM
YTA - Could that have anything to do with your existing connections?From what I've seen, those measures wouldn't get rolled out for most. ------------------
If I've included this sig, it's because I'm posting from a mobile device.
Please excuse all outrageous typos and confusing auto-corrects. IP: Logged |
Padre35
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From: Asheville, NC, US
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posted March 27, 2013 07:08 PM
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Originally posted by mockingbird:
YTA - Could that have anything to do with your existing connections?From what I've seen, those measures wouldn't get rolled out for most.
Oh no there is also the prescription assistance program as well, so there are options (hopefully) IP: Logged |
Lexxigramer
Moderator Posts: 2019
From: The Etheric Realms...Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat...& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion!
Registered: Feb 2012
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posted March 27, 2013 08:06 PM
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Woah woah. Who makes the insulin syringes? Mercx? Pfizer? Astra Zeneca? Roche? Call up their VP of Public Relations and they will ship you product for free. Big Pharma may be many things but they are not as3hole3s. Tertiary hospitals also have a standby supply. If you want, I'll call the respective CEOs myself on your behalf. Amgen contributed $90K in vials to save my kid's life. Stanford forgave over $1 million in bills. United Airlines gave me $100K worth in free flights. Citigroup loaned my kid a whole executive jet plus crew plus jet fuel for. cross country medical emergency. There are ways. You need to get heard!! There are people around to help you!!
Thank you for your advice and yes I/we have tried and get put on hold and told to call back;
yadda yadda yadda.
Like mockingbird said:
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Originally posted by mockingbird:
YTA - Could that have anything to do with your existing connections?From what I've seen, those measures wouldn't get rolled out for most.
Sadly this is usually true.Thank you for your kind offer nevertheless 
and if you know exactly who I should talk to and any phone numbers/extensions I would be happy to try and get someone to help us. This is making me so fraking angry that I am trying to find a way not just to help us but ALL folks in this type of dismal boat. I have known others who got help as you did for your son.
Not sure how you did it nor how others did/do it.
I tried for example;
to get my cousin, only 25 years old, a nurse's aid,
who was diagnosed with ALS in her 4th. month of pregnancy.
A sweet woman, a woman pregnant with her first child.
She had to quit work when the ALS begain making it too hard to stand or walk.
She had no health insurance even though she was working.
Husband out of work, through no fault of his own.
Her disease was very rapid and by her 7th. month pf pregnancy she was completely bed ridden and fully paralyzed and could only move here eyelids.
I tried and tried to get her a loaner set up like Stephen Hawking has.
I say loaner because the ALS would kill her in just several months anyhow.
I wanted her to be able to live out her last days being able to communicate with her family and be able to tell her caregivers (her family, except for a rare once a month caseworker)when she hurt or had an itch or was hungry.
Or just be able to tell them things, like the unwritten poetry in her beautiful mind trapped in her slowly dying body.
No one would help.
Everyone said let her die.
Even her church blew her off.
Then when her baby was born all she could do was lie there with tears rolling down her cheeks.
She died about a month after her beautiful blessedly healthy full term baby boy was born.
I have more such stories;
and most folks do not ever get the help your family got YTA.
I am not sure why that is.
I wish I could create a real help center for folks to find what they need to get help not just shoved aside or be ignored.
Like today;
human services, community services, diabetes counseling, yadda yadda yadda.........
not a single one returned my phone calls today.
No one.
Even though I told them he is out of insulin.
Others I have known of/know;
who are on oxygen tanks at home,
do without when they run out, until they can get more and or call an ambulance,
go to ER and get more tanks.
That is pretty much the ONLY advice we have gotten;
call an ambulance or take my husband to the Emergency room and then he can get some insulin.
How much I ask.
Oh one day's worth.
Then he will have to see his doctor and get his prescription refilled.
I was like huh????????????????
So who pays the doctor?
Who pays for the insulin and the other meds?
They were like;
"sorry no idea";
can't you borrow from friends or relatives?
Again I was like huh????????????
Well anyhow;
the insulin he is on (and we both should be on)
is called Lantus Solostar Insulin Glargine.
Made by Sanofi. IP: Logged |
Lexxigramer
Moderator Posts: 2019
From: The Etheric Realms...Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat...& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion!
Registered: Feb 2012
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posted March 27, 2013 08:49 PM
Has anyone else noticed my replies keep vanishing?
I keep re-posting but posts x 4 now have vanished.
I just watched one go again.
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Lexxigramer
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From: The Etheric Realms...Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat...& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion!
Registered: Feb 2012
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posted March 27, 2013 08:51 PM
I am going to temporarily close this thread and contact Randall to see if he can stabilize it.
Will reopen if it can stop glitching.IP: Logged |
Lexxigramer
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From: The Etheric Realms...Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat...& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion!
Registered: Feb 2012
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posted March 27, 2013 09:36 PM
Re-opened.
If it glitches again let Randall know.
I also apologize for sliding off topic on this thread.
Point being though;
positive thinking does not automatically make things better.IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted March 28, 2013 03:38 PM
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