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Aquacheeka
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posted April 15, 2013 06:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mockingbird:
^ You're also loaded.

Not to throw my gender under the bus, but I've met more than a few for whom that's a major point of interest.


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posted April 15, 2013 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mockingbird:
^ You're also loaded.

Not to throw my gender under the bus, but I've met more than a few for whom that's a major point of interest.



well, TBH that was probably a factor in some of the female attention he got. However,I also have to say that I have talked to alot of older men and they have all told me the dating scene is alot different from what it was when they were young. I talked to one man in particular who told me nice guys were alot more popular with women in the 80s.He said that he was ugly,skinny,short and nerdy as a teenager yet he had no problems getting dates. Lets be honest here, a guy like that wouldnt have much luck in today's dating scene.

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katatonic
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posted April 15, 2013 06:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you're looking online first contact is liable to be superficial...not ALL but a majority...after all it's a 2 dimensional place!

But do listen to those of us who have suggested focussing on your own interests and you should meet someone you have at least something to yalk about with...

I know people in their 50s and more who are still repling the opposite sex by that "looking for someone (anyone!?

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posted April 15, 2013 06:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Vibe...

(repling= repelling!)

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aquaguy91
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posted April 15, 2013 07:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
interesting,very interesting.

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Padre35
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posted April 15, 2013 08:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by mockingbird:
[b]^ You're also loaded.

Not to throw my gender under the bus, but I've met more than a few for whom that's a major point of interest.



well, TBH that was probably a factor in some of the female attention he got. However,I also have to say that I have talked to alot of older men and they have all told me the dating scene is alot different from what it was when they were young. I talked to one man in particular who told me nice guys were alot more popular with women in the 80s.He said that he was ugly,skinny,short and nerdy as a teenager yet he had no problems getting dates. Lets be honest here, a guy like that wouldnt have much luck in today's dating scene. [/B][/QUOTE]

You'd be surprised AG, some women like nerdy, not all women do though but it's also true of men.

I knew a guy who was a genius (Quantum Physics was his field), had a sweet and (pretty GF) whose head was so large when they went out the guy had to wear a Fez..his cranium was just that large!

What I've personally noticed also is as people get older, their specific tastes in partners changes.

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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted April 16, 2013 07:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mockingbird:
^ You're also loaded.

Not to throw my gender under the bus, but I've met more than a few for whom that's a major point of interest.


I've never allowed it to be a point of interest.

Yes, I get hit on constantly, even today, even with a child booster seat in the car, even walking down the street with my sons. By women half my age. Heck, I get hit on riding the train to work, just because I'm suited up. By women much older. lol There was a grandma dripping with diamonds the other day in Chicago trying to get my attention in a restaurant. lol

And it's not because I look good. I don't. And its certainly not because I'm walking around like a douche bag poser. A man just needs to hang out a fancy watch these days and he will get some quickly should he not have morals.

That's how bad it is in NYC, not to disparage NYC. LA/OC/DC/PB isn't so different. Again, for all the wrong reasons. But the unfortunately reality is that there are more than enough undesirables from both genders who focus on all the wrong things.

Having said that, Melania Trump was interviewed on TV a couple of weeks ago. I can't remember the show, but it was on the Oprah TV network lol. Anyway, the female host was trying to ambush the smart cookie: Would you have married Donald if her were not rich? Melania's sharp answer was: Would he have married me if I were not beautiful? Kachow! It's a two way street.

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posted April 16, 2013 08:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:

Disagree. I think you photograph very well and you are not short. 5'10 is not short unless you live in Holland.

Thank you. But growing up, I was subjected to nonsense as well. There was a girl 5'2" who said that she only wanted to date 6'2" and over. Aquaguy at 6'4" would have been perfect, even though he would have crushed her 98 lb. frame lol

And then there was the Asian women thing: I only date White men. Well, touche. I only date Black, Latin and White women. lol

My brother in law.. as in my wife's brother.. married a Chinese woman from my nation of origin. You see. White man and Asian woman = cool and chic and fashionable. Those go to the head of the line. Both cultures embrace that combo.

But. White woman and Asian man = weird. "She doesn't love that guy. She must have married him for money." We get hated on by both Asians and Whites.

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Ami Anne
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posted April 16, 2013 09:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Having said that, Melania Trump was interviewed on TV a couple of weeks ago. I can't remember the show, but it was on the Oprah TV network lol. Anyway, the female host was trying to ambush the smart cookie: Would you have married Donald if her were not rich? Melania's sharp answer was: Would he have married me if I were not beautiful? Kachow! It's a two way street.

That is one darn smart woman
Someone should post her chart in AStro 2 or beginners. She is no dumb blonde( so to speak)

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posted April 16, 2013 10:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
More proof of the LOR at work: Some men who are single tend to have a difficult time attracting a woman, whereas those same men in a relationship find women are attracted to them often. Go figure!

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posted April 16, 2013 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mockingbird:
^ You're also loaded.

Not to throw my gender under the bus, but I've met more than a few for whom that's a major point of interest.


true I would say that his wife is very logical too. Beauty does not last forever but men tend to stay attractive or even get more attractive as they age.
If she married a really good looking rich guy she would always be insecure about her place.
Plus YTA is a good husband that spoils her.

Average men tend to be more loyal. While charming playboys attracted women easily so the temptation is always there.
Also AG. You're good marriage material, some girl thats looking to settle down will probably choose you over the playboy.

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aquaguy91
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posted April 16, 2013 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
More proof of the LOR at work: Some men who are single tend to have a difficult time attracting a woman, whereas those same men in a relationship find women are attracted to them often. Go figure!

To me that proves people want what they cant have, but thats nothing new.

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posted April 16, 2013 05:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's not that, because they don't know you are in a relationship at first.

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posted April 16, 2013 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is some way that a guy carries himself while in a relationship that attracts women; therein lies your answer.

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aquaguy91
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posted April 16, 2013 05:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
maybe in some cases . but I have told girls who werent interested in me that I was seeing someone and they suddenly became interested and were blowing up my phone .

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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted April 16, 2013 06:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Trust that guys who get all the wrong women with all the wrong methods will quickly end up much worse than guys who can't get any women. Sure, they may end up with a whole lot of sex at their beck and call, but at the end of the day, they'll end up unfulfilled. I know one sleazeball who rotates young ones almost every two days, and the women are not without blame too.

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posted April 16, 2013 06:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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maybe in some cases . but I have told girls who werent interested in me that I was seeing someone and they suddenly became interested and were blowing up my phone .


I will be totally real here. You know I love you LOTS. You need to hook up with a guy who can feel woman out like Randall, for example. That guy can help explain woman to you, as you are not feeling the female vibe. What we SAY means squat. We lie LOL

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posted April 16, 2013 06:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Trust that guys who get all the wrong women with all the wrong methods will quickly end up much worse than guys who can't get any women. Sure, they may end up with a whole lot of sex at their beck and call, but at the end of the day, they'll end up unfulfilled. I know one sleazeball who rotates young ones almost every two days, and the women are not without blame too.

yea I know. The whole thing seems to be a huge waste of time and frankly I dont have the energy or the patience for it. But unfortunately thats the way the world operates these days.

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posted April 16, 2013 06:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Trust that guys who get all the wrong women with all the wrong methods will quickly end up much worse than guys who can't get any women. Sure, they may end up with a whole lot of sex at their beck and call, but at the end of the day, they'll end up unfulfilled. I know one sleazeball who rotates young ones almost every two days, and the women are not without blame too.

Tsk tsk YTA, for the same reason why people buy massively expensive vehicles is the same reason why people want lots of women (or perhaps men) at their beck and call..

Ego/Vanity/Pride etc

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posted April 16, 2013 10:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Tsk tsk YTA, for the same reason why people buy massively expensive vehicles is the same reason why people want lots of women (or perhaps men) at their beck and call..

Ego/Vanity/Pride etc


Padre35,

I like my vehicles for my own quiet enjoyment, and I truly enjoy the performance of my vehicles. My cars aren't for vanity or ego, nor are they designed to pick up the companionship for the evening, even though some may pay heed to the vehicle.

I actually prefer others to just leave me the F alone and mind their F-ing business. I don't need 500+ hp to go anywhere, but I like it even though its not some hybrid, so buzz off already!!

Anyway, I like my vehicles because I am actually a hobbyist, and I work extremely hard so I reward myself with such vehicles, old and new. The same goes for any number of other items. Like carbon wheels for my bikes. Anyway. Just making a point.

Unlike any number of douche bags in NYC with Ferraris and Lamborghinis picking up ever willing women who can't wait to jump in for a ride back to the guy's crib. I was in a borrowed Bentley once and this woman had the nerve to make an indecent proposal right from the sidewalk!! I said that I'm married. Her reply was "So?" She said "You're hot." I said: "You're right. I need the AC on!" And I drove away.

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posted April 16, 2013 11:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Padre35,

I like my vehicles for my own quiet enjoyment, and I truly enjoy the performance of my vehicles. My cars aren't for vanity or ego, nor are they designed to pick up the companionship for the evening, even though some may pay heed to the vehicle.

I actually prefer others to just leave me the F alone and mind their F-ing business. I don't need 500+ hp to go anywhere, but I like it even though its not some hybrid, so buzz off already!!

Anyway, I like my vehicles because I am actually a hobbyist, and I work extremely hard so I reward myself with such vehicles, old and new. The same goes for any number of other items. Like carbon wheels for my bikes. Anyway. Just making a point.

Unlike any number of douche bags in NYC with Ferraris and Lamborghinis picking up ever willing women who can't wait to jump in for a ride back to the guy's crib. I was in a borrowed Bentley once and this woman had the nerve to make an indecent proposal right from the sidewalk!! I said that I'm married. Her reply was "So?" She said "You're hot." I said: "You're right. I need the AC on!" And I drove away.


Then again though YTA, is the performance needed?

IIRC one did post a pic of one riding around with the top down in a convertible..

BMW it looked to be, for me I have no problem with it, does not bespeak of plebian self image however, and why should it be, actually the truly wealthy wind up being given vehicles just to sort of to make the high dollar market.

"Buffet is driving a X, so I should as well"

A pure luxury car..like a Bentley..is like a rolling coffin for some it is what is expected to drive.


Had to edit the ramble.

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posted April 16, 2013 11:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Then again though YTA, is the performance needed?

IIRC one did post a pic of one riding around with the top down in a convertible..

BMW it looked to be, for me I have no problem with it, does not bespeak of plebian self image however, and why should it be, actually the truly wealthy wind up being given vehicles just to sort of to make the high dollar market.

"Buffet is driving a X, so I should as well"

A pure luxury car..like a Bentley..is like a rolling coffin for some it is what is expected to drive.


Had to edit the ramble.


No Padre. I don't own a BMW. Car brand isn't the issue here.

Anyway, the performance is just pleasure and hobby interest. No, it is not needed. But it is nevertheless desired. To my wife and I, an automobile isn't transportation. It's a passion. I do own a number of convertibles new and classic. So what? It's for quiet enjoyment.

If one drives a V12 twin turbo with 670 hp, and can pay for the gasoline, is that anyone else's issue or concern?

No, I don't have a Bentley. I said it was borrowed, and I drive anything from a Ferrari to Rolls Royce, none of which I own. None of that doesn't matter.

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posted April 16, 2013 11:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
YTA, I'd ask you not to misunderstand my point.

Just keep in mind the convertible/hobby thing is not everyone's experience.

Granted, a sort of different way would be to own a Jeep with a soft top, it does not have the performance of your passion, however the utility is there.

Put it this way, what would one expect AG to know about Bentley's and older women seeing a target of opportunity?

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posted April 17, 2013 04:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The difference here is that I don't find passion in Jeep or whatever utility there is in whatever you are suggesting. What exactly is so wrong with having what I like to have - and as much as I like - vs. having what you think I should have?

As for Aquaguy, my message is one of charisma. His version is that an average guy wouldn't have luck with attracting women these days. I had no issues being myself when young, and I still have no issues now. Of course, the common explanation is that now that I have career success, they come flocking. But I had zero issues as a college kid wearing jeans and sweatshirts. I got dates every weekend if I wanted, and I didn't have much yet to flash.

But I'm going to get down to brass tacks and not engage in BS. There's too much feel good soft talk in this forum. The reality is that there's a line of girls - admittedly mostly the wrong type - delighted to jump into a 911 and then jump your bones. Vs climbing into the average econobox. Whether you like it or not, toys work. Money talks and BS walks. But until money comes, charm and charisma work. Doesn't hurt to be clean cut and dress well either.

My magic was in the kitchen. I cooked for my dates. I knit a scarf for one girl and she went bonkers. I did laundry for my girlfriends. I helped them with homework. I summarized chapters. I created study notes. I fixed bikes. I bought them make up. I bought them toiletries. I sometimes don't get guys - happy to boff a hirl but refuse to buy them sanitary napkins when they have their periods? well, i memorized all my girlfriends' choice of underwear and bought them those too. I cleaned apartments. Walked their dogs. Anything. Showing your appreciation works. My girlfriends had fresh flowers every week. I gave them massages. I gave them manicures and pedicures. I even gave them haircuts. Being a "nice guy" is more than being respectful and well mannered. And as much as one can be a nice guy in casual clothes at the local pizza joint (which I was so infamous for that I proposed marriage in a sleazy $4 Chinese takeout), they sometimes like to see their nice guys dressed well and take them somewhere really nice.

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posted April 17, 2013 09:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The difference here is that I don't find passion in Jeep or whatever utility there is in whatever you are suggesting. What exactly is so wrong with having what I like to have - and as much as I like - vs. having what you think I should have?

As for Aquaguy, my message is one of charisma. His version is that an average guy wouldn't have luck with attracting women these days. I had no issues being myself when young, and I still have no issues now. Of course, the common explanation is that now that I have career success, they come flocking. But I had zero issues as a college kid wearing jeans and sweatshirts. I got dates every weekend if I wanted, and I didn't have much yet to flash.

But I'm going to get down to brass tacks and not engage in BS. There's too much feel good soft talk in this forum. The reality is that there's a line of girls - admittedly mostly the wrong type - delighted to jump into a 911 and then jump your bones. Vs climbing into the average econobox. Whether you like it or not, toys work. Money talks and BS walks. But until money comes, charm and charisma work. Doesn't hurt to be clean cut and dress well either.

My magic was in the kitchen. I cooked for my dates. I knit a scarf for one girl and she went bonkers. I did laundry for my girlfriends. I helped them with homework. I summarized chapters. I created study notes. I fixed bikes. I bought them make up. I bought them toiletries. I sometimes don't get guys - happy to boff a hirl but refuse to buy them sanitary napkins when they have their periods? well, i memorized all my girlfriends' choice of underwear and bought them those too. I cleaned apartments. Walked their dogs. Anything. Showing your appreciation works. My girlfriends had fresh flowers every week. I gave them massages. I gave them manicures and pedicures. I even gave them haircuts. Being a "nice guy" is more than being respectful and well mannered. And as much as one can be a nice guy in casual clothes at the local pizza joint (which I was so infamous for that I proposed marriage in a sleazy $4 Chinese takeout), they sometimes like to see their nice guys dressed well and take them somewhere really nice.


AG is a touch younger then us YTA, and I do agree that top down..women do like that...unless it is cold.

Charisma is a pov of vision and "I want it now!"

Charm is a different thing, and more attainable.

As Tim Ferriss mentions Pareto's law, the 80/20 rule, from my pov have goals and know what the heck one is doing, however that does not mean a large stack is the be all end all.

I'd though, darling, we are chatting over the obtainable, not the stars in the sky.

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