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aquaguy91
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posted September 18, 2013 11:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Padre35:
Not the same as being intuitive AG.

Intuitive means there is no real basis for guessing/knowing it relies more on a sort of fuzzy logic.

Picking up vibes is very different, for example if ones shoulders are slightly stiff, it is obvious one is nervous or even angry. That is based on physical ques.

Intuitive would not be based on physical tells at all, it seems like a wild guess that there is no way they could know.


And that's your idea of a "hard" question?



Cut the crap man, I don't appreciate the attitude.Yes,that is fuzzy logic because peoples appearance is deceiving more often than not.

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Padre35
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posted September 18, 2013 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

"Attitude"?

Well now, experience is the instructor of fools AG, your choice.

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Zander916
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posted September 18, 2013 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Zander916     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:

Welcome to the world of relationships.

You don't have the right to remain silent.

You don't have the right to consultation or advisement by your buddies upon inquisition.

Anything you say or do will be used against you in an entirely one-sided fashion in the court of the singular female judge and jury, and in the court of female public opinion.

In fact, you don't have any rights

You are now a subject for microscopic examination and interrogation.

This only gets exponentially worse after marriage



Naaaaaaah... I was married once. She didn't do that.
We really didn't argue until the last 6 months.

If someone does that then I feel on edge and naturally my attitude is going to be crappy. I'm too busy thinking carefully about what to say and how to say it. I feel like it's expected that I f**k up and that's why they are doing it. It's the chicken and the egg.
Not that any of it is purposeful from either party. It's just the way it works out. They put me under that stress, the stress causes me to behave exactly as they expected.

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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted September 18, 2013 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Zander916:
If someone does that then I feel on edge and naturally my attitude is going to be crappy. I'm too busy thinking carefully about what to say and how to say it. I feel like it's expected that I f**k up and that's why they are doing it. It's the chicken and the egg.
Not that any of it is purposeful from either party. It's just the way it works out. They put me under that stress, the stress causes me to behave exactly as they expected.


It's like sticking the bayonet in your face while pressing the rifle forward. Do nothing and the bayonet gets you. Do something and the trigger gets pulled and the bullet gets you. Duck and the ammo explodes and blows up your face.

Like they say... either way, you're F-ed.

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Odette
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posted September 18, 2013 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Zander - What in the world? *shrug*

Can you maybe not take things so personally?
It depends on the context.

If you were the proverbial perfect bf in more ways than one.. and one day some guy cut you off in traffic and you turned to me in the car and said "men are pigs" .. Do you think I would give a damn?
Of course not!!

I do not over-analyse. I am just aware and have my eyes wide open.. and my intuitive skills are not out of whack.

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Odette
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posted September 18, 2013 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When a guy sits a girl down to give her a prep talk about how he is a jerk or how all men are jerks or how his relationships last 2 weeks or what not --- it is definitely *not*over-analysing to be aware that such a guy clearly has a double agenda.

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posted September 18, 2013 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for somethingexcellent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
aquaguy, before you ask any "hard questions", I think you have to stop generalising. You always do that so of course your question is hard to answer - not only would someone have to answer the question, they would also have to dismantle it and explain why the question is wrong.

First off, women aren't just intuitive by nature. Some women are, some women aren't, some are average - women are people too and they individually differ just as much as anyone else. Your asking why women get hurt when they should sense that someone is bad for them which is wrong of you, as you are holding women up to the standard that they should be able to sense that someone is bad for them in the first place.

Any ways,

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aquaguy: If that is true it makes it even more pathetic that women get burned by douche bags so often.

You say you're not a misogynist? What a disgusting statement. You're letting guys off the hook because they were "honest" while calling women pathetic for having a relationship with a douche bag. No, stop, the douche bag shouldn't be a douche bag in the first place.

This is internalised misogyny because you're implying that women should adjust for men and that men are faultless so long as they say "hey I'm going to be a crappy human being, getting involved with me is your fault."

Here, watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQucWXWXp3k
Even if you're not a poetic person, you'll get the meaning by the end of it.

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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted September 18, 2013 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Woah. Can we all tone down and just not take everything so personally?

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aquaguy91
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posted September 18, 2013 05:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I vote that we quit having threads like this.lol

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Zander916
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posted September 18, 2013 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Zander916     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Odette:
Zander - What in the world? *shrug*

Can you maybe not take things so personally?
It depends on the context.

If you were the proverbiali perfect bf in more ways than one.. and one day some guy cut you off in traffic and you turned to me in the car and said "men are pigs" .. Do youthink I would give a damn?
Of course not!!

I do not over-analyse. I am just aware and have my eyes wide open.. and my intuitive skills are not out of whack.


No no noooo
I'm good. I was just stating my viewpoint.

I appreciate the clarification and I agree.
I'll say it jokingly.

So we're good.

It's funny. I was in the shower today and you know, your mind wonders or mine does anyway.
I was thinking about my 12th house Mercury. Though exalted in virgo sometimes things that I say come out all wrong. Miscommunication really frustrates me because it happens so often but I've learned to just go back again and clarify. It's just in my chart so I have to work with it and not get upset and react. Slightly ironic in this thread. LOL
:-)

All good.

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aquaguy91
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posted September 18, 2013 05:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by somethingexcellent:
aquaguy, before you ask any "hard questions", I think you have to stop generalising. You always do that so of course your question is hard to answer - not only would someone have to answer the question, they would also have to dismantle it and explain why the question is wrong.

First off, women aren't just intuitive by nature. Some women are, some women aren't, some are average - women are people too and they individually differ just as much as anyone else. Your asking why women get hurt when they should sense that someone is bad for them which is wrong of you, as you are holding women up to the standard that they should be able to sense that someone is bad for them in the first place.

Any ways,

You say you're not a misogynist? What a disgusting statement. You're letting guys off the hook because they were "honest" while calling women pathetic for having a relationship with a douche bag. No, stop, the douche bag shouldn't be a douche bag in the first place.

This is internalised misogyny because you're implying that women should adjust for men and that men are faultless so long as they say "hey I'm going to be a crappy human being, getting involved with me is your fault."

Here, watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQucWXWXp3k
Even if you're not a poetic person, you'll get the meaning by the end of it.



No,
I'm not saying that at all. I'm suggesting that women should run away from guys like that period. Yes,women are partly responsible for their abuse if they are "willing" participants . If a guy tells a woman in plain english that he is a douchebag the woman would be wise to listen to what he is saying and get the hell away.No I'm not saying that men are blameless, I'm saying women have a stake too! A woman has the power to not put up with a mans bullsh*t, she has the power to get herself away from him.

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Zander916
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posted September 18, 2013 05:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Zander916     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Retracted post.

Nothing bad. Just leaving well enough alone. LOL

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posted September 18, 2013 06:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Swift Freeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone have an e-ruler?

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posted September 18, 2013 06:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Zander916:
Retracted post.

Nothing bad. Just leaving well enough alone. LOL


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Jessica2407
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posted September 19, 2013 01:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Swift Freeze:
Anyone have an e-ruler?


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Padre35
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posted September 19, 2013 01:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

For AG's sake:

-At what point and why do women try and "fix" guys?

-Is "everyone beautiful?"

Meaning, workout constantly is AS beautiful as those who weigh 300+ pounds?

Or is it the other way around.

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posted September 19, 2013 02:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How convenient that Dippy deserted her thread.


IDK this thread makes me think of the Muppet Show

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Padre35
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posted September 19, 2013 02:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
How convenient that Dippy deserted her thread.


IDK this thread makes me think of the Muppet Show


Dance monkeys danCE

Hmm, your irony is showing!

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Jessica2407
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posted September 19, 2013 02:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Dang!

I thought I was being cryptic.

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Padre35
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posted September 19, 2013 03:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
^ Dang!

I thought I was being cryptic.


Who you tellin'?

Meanwhile..dance monkies dance!!!!

Hmm, men are pigs, for kicks put up a craigslist "ad" just looking for some convos (forget sex, a woman who can talk to me is dead sexy) and in oh...20 minutes..received spambot porn.

How nice.

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Odette
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posted September 19, 2013 03:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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You're letting guys off the hook because they were "honest" while calling women pathetic for having a relationship with a douche bag. No, stop, the douche bag shouldn't be a douche bag in the first place.

Exactly!
And it's a very passive-aggressive thing to be "honest" in this way.

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posted September 19, 2013 03:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diplopoda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I was just tickled Randall agreed with the premise and even expanded on it.

Pigs are cute. Nobody should take offense

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posted September 19, 2013 04:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Odette:
Exactly!
And it's a very passive-aggressive thing to be "honest" in this way.

Omg.... I'm really starting to wonder about some of you. Where in my posts did I say women are responsible for douchebags behavior? Never, I'm saying women are responsible for themselves. If a woman continues to engage with a douchebag after she has learned his nature she has become a willing participant in the abuse because she had the option to
eject from the situation and didn't, at that point she has no one to blame but herself. The fact of the matter is there are bad people in the world and they aren't going to change, that's the reality. The best
thing to do when you encounter such people is to get the hell away.

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posted September 19, 2013 04:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Diplopoda:

I was just tickled Randall agreed with the premise and even expanded on it.

Pigs are cute. Nobody should take offense


Thanks Dippy for making an appearance in your own thread that you created I guess to spice things up in SPITR. This thread has 72 posts ( including this one ) and you have made only 2 posts including your OP. I believe that's not the only thread you've been creating with a thought provoking and titillating title.

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Odette
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posted September 19, 2013 04:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh - Actually I didn't mean to involve you there Aqua guy.

I agree with the fact that those guys should not be let off the hook simply because they were honest... when their honesty is just a way to be co*ky and passive-aggressive. And I agree with Scorpy - that the douche bag shouldn't be a douche bag in the first place.

I know you were mentioned in that quote - but I was agreeing with the general message. I wasn't trying to imply anything about your posts.

I understand that you feel like both parties should be held accountable.. not just the men. But you do seem more critical of women.
Either way - my reply was not aimed at you at all.. I was just broadly agreeing with Scorpy's views on this.

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