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Topic: My views on sexism and racism
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aquaguy91
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From: tennessee
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted January 29, 2014 08:22 PM
  
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
I don't understand how I was "disrespectful" by saying that people aren't robots lol because it's the truth. I didn't read any logic in what you wrote. All I got from all of that is that your white and because you lived in the ghetto and discriminated against like a million other people every day, you feel "offended" or whatever it is that you're calling it. Fortunately we don't come onto this planet able to pick what we'll look like, just because you are white does not make you any more superior or special than anyone else. You were judged by your class [b]not your color. Maybe the reason they feel you're an a**hole is because you come across as one. [/B]
Geeze you aren't very bright are you? I was responding to the fact that you rationalized kerosene'a very rude comments by saying "people aren't robots".i never said whites are superior!!! How could you even read that into what I said??? My point was whites or men aren't always better and have it easier and my life is an example. If you have payed any attention to this forum you would know that there are people here who believe that there is a certain thing called "white male privilege" and I have a big problem with that thought process because I am a white male and have been anything but privileged in my life. I am not b* thing and I'm not saying I should have been better off, my point is it's a myth that white men inherently have it easier because I have live through hardships and I know.
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Barbiegirl19
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From: Pluto with DeepFreeze
Registered: Jul 2013
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posted January 29, 2014 08:33 PM
It's very hard to understand where or what direction you go with things. Sorry I just don't understand you're way of writing  if those people feel that way let em. Who cares what they think about you or anybody else for that matter. At the end of the day this is just an astrology forum! Nobody knows me or how I am in person here besides DeepFreeze because we live together and his opinions of me are all that matter. You completely act like you are the only person who's gone through such hardships. Guess what? You're not sweetheart. Move on already..IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted January 29, 2014 08:40 PM
Do you live together for real, Barbie?------------------
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aquaguy91
Moderator Posts: 8499
From: tennessee
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted January 29, 2014 08:40 PM
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
It's very hard to understand where or what direction you go with things. Sorry I just don't understand you're way of writing if those people feel that way let em. Who cares what they think about you or anybody else for that matter. At the end of the day this is just an astrology forum! Nobody knows me or how I am in person here besides DeepFreeze because we live together and his opinions of me are all that matter. You completely act like you are the only person who's gone through such hardships. Guess what? You're not sweetheart. Move on already..
I never said I was, please point out where I said that. You can't because I never said that or implied it. If you are going to come at me please come at me with logic, not emotionally charged irrational responses. IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19
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From: Pluto with DeepFreeze
Registered: Jul 2013
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posted January 29, 2014 08:45 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Do you live together for real, Barbie?
Yes  I moved 650 miles away to be with him. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted January 29, 2014 08:48 PM
Wow BarbieI never heard of an LL couple getting together for real. That is pretty cool! ------------------
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Barbiegirl19
Knowflake Posts: 2918
From: Pluto with DeepFreeze
Registered: Jul 2013
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posted January 29, 2014 08:48 PM
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
I never said I was, please point out where I said that. You can't because I never said that or implied it. If you are going to come at me please come at me with logic, not emotionally charged irrational responses.
Ok cool. I'm done bickering. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
Moderator Posts: 8499
From: tennessee
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted January 29, 2014 08:49 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Wow BarbieI never heard of an LL couple getting together for real. That is pretty cool!
Hera and Blackbird are getting married IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19
Knowflake Posts: 2918
From: Pluto with DeepFreeze
Registered: Jul 2013
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posted January 29, 2014 08:50 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Wow BarbieI never heard of an LL couple getting together for real. That is pretty cool!
I know!! He and I just last night were talking about how weird and cool it is lol. Who would've thought right he and I are each other's soulmates. Literally talk about any and everything. We laugh like you wouldn't believe together and we're extremely attracted to each other. We plan on getting married and having a family together Lords will IP: Logged |
Violets
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From: Twin Peaks
Registered: Apr 2011
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posted January 29, 2014 08:59 PM
AG, I understood what you were saying and why you were saying it when I read your first post. I know that people are discriminated against for being poor, and it's something that is deeply upsetting to me. Discrimination in general is disturbing for me, on any level.I'm sorry that people are responding the way that they are to your post. You opened yourself up to everyone here, and I feel that some of the comments have been uncalled for. But for the record, I understood what you were saying from the beginning.
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Odette
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Registered: May 2012
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posted January 29, 2014 09:01 PM
I am confused by how - one poster (who is not even a regular and people barely know them) can come on here and spill their "issues" most of which were basically the plight of any other human... and actually ask the question "why in the world do some people get all the tough luck in life?" ---- and get pity for their 'attitude'.... BUT... when AG shares such a personal experience after months and months of interacting with us - sooooo many jump down his throat and nullify his negative experiences.It is indeed offensive to compare different types of discrimination and then say that the type of discrimination you personally endured is more significant than the others. But this is not a 'rational' thought coming from a person who has assessed the state of affairs in cold blood. It's a thought/idea coming from his own pain and suffering and what he feels is a lack of social acknowledgement for his pain. As opposed to the other poster I am referring to - AG did not say "Why am I the only person in the world who has gone through such hardship?" -- but he is being criticised for it, whereas the other poster was not criticised. I am also confused by how Padre can be a complete and utter jerk.. with a capital "J".. and receive next to NO reaction for his comments and sometimes he even gets defended... while AG is persistently attacked. This is beyond me. IP: Logged |
Violets
Moderator Posts: 2441
From: Twin Peaks
Registered: Apr 2011
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posted January 29, 2014 09:08 PM
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Originally posted by Odette:
It is indeed offensive to compare different types of discrimination and then say that the type of discrimination you personally endured is more significant than the others. But this is not a 'rational' thought coming from a person who has assessed the state of affairs in cold blood. It's a thought/idea coming from his own pain and suffering and what he feels is a lack of social acknowledgement for his pain.
Did he say that the discrimination he experienced was worse than other types of discrimination? (I'm not trying to argue, I'm just wondering honestly...if so, I skipped that part. I agree with you for the record, ALL forms of discrimination are terrible.) IP: Logged |
T
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Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 29, 2014 09:10 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Wow BarbieI never heard of an LL couple getting together for real. That is pretty cool!
It's happened more often than you'd think.  I've had a few romances here that ended up meeting many times in "real life". One had talk of marriage. I broke it off with all of them. It was meant to be, for a time being. Another notorious LL couple comes to mind now.........you'd be surprised at how many have found love here over the years Ami. IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19
Knowflake Posts: 2918
From: Pluto with DeepFreeze
Registered: Jul 2013
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posted January 29, 2014 09:13 PM
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Originally posted by T:
It's happened more often than you'd think. I've had a few romances here that ended up meeting many times in "real life". One had talk of marriage. I broke it off with all of them. It was meant to be, for a time being. Another notorious LL couple comes to mind now.........you'd be surprised at how many have found love here over the years Ami.
Really!? I wonder why we never hear about any of them? That's so awesoooooome
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Odette
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Registered: May 2012
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posted January 29, 2014 09:14 PM
Violets -
Well he said the following (which I personally *feel* hints at comparing different types of discrimination) ... but maybe that was not his intention. quote:
I think the powers that be try to deceive us by making us think sexism and/or racism are the real issues when they really aren't. Now I'm not saying those don't exist , but the real issue is whether you have money or not.
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T
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posted January 29, 2014 09:18 PM
@ Barbie, Some of the older members know or remember. All of the ones i am thinking of didnt last. That's why it's 'news to you' - i'm talking over 5 years ago.BTW congrats!  IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19
Knowflake Posts: 2918
From: Pluto with DeepFreeze
Registered: Jul 2013
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posted January 29, 2014 09:20 PM
@T That is truly incredible. Thank you so much! IP: Logged |
T
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posted January 29, 2014 09:23 PM
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
@T That is truly incredible. Thank you so much!
There's bound to be an actual marriage at some point ! How fun would that be? IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19
Knowflake Posts: 2918
From: Pluto with DeepFreeze
Registered: Jul 2013
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posted January 29, 2014 09:24 PM
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Originally posted by T:
There's bound to be an actual marriage at some point ! How fun would that be?
We plan on being that couple! Lol I still can't wrap my head around that! That is just so beautiful IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
Moderator Posts: 8499
From: tennessee
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted January 29, 2014 09:28 PM
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Originally posted by Odette:
Violets -
Well he said the following (which I personally *feel* hints at comparing different types of discrimination) ... but maybe that was not his intention. [QUOTE]I think the powers that be try to deceive us by making us think sexism and/or racism are the real issues when they really aren't. Now I'm not saying those don't exist , but the real issue is whether you have money or not.
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My point was I think it's all usually related. For example you might here a news story about a poor black guy getting hassled by the cops and it becomes a media circus revolving around his race. People get fired up and deem it all a race issue when the reality might be that he is being profiled because he lives in the hood. You also have to wonder if he would be getting hassled if he drove a nice car and lived in a nice neighborhood. I'm not trivializing any discrimination at all, I'm saying I think it's all related. I think most discrimination is based on class and less on gender or color, however that's not to say that those types of discrimination don't exist. But you can't deny the fact that a woman or person of color that is from a wealthy family that is well connected is going to have it easier than a poor man. By the same token a white man from a rich family is going to have it easier than a poor person of color or a poor woman. IP: Logged |
Violets
Moderator Posts: 2441
From: Twin Peaks
Registered: Apr 2011
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posted January 29, 2014 09:28 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Odette:
Violets -
Well he said the following (which I personally *feel* hints at comparing different types of discrimination) ... but maybe that was not his intention. [QUOTE]I think the powers that be try to deceive us by making us think sexism and/or racism are the real issues when they really aren't. Now I'm not saying those don't exist , but the real issue is whether you have money or not.
[/QUOTE]Ahh. Yes, I remember reading that now. They're all a part of the same equation, as far as I'm concerned. <Edit>
But I don't necessarily agree with everything he just said ^^ IP: Logged |
T
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posted January 29, 2014 09:33 PM
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
We plan on being that couple! Lol I still can't wrap my head around that! That is just so beautiful
I think there are a few strong contenders atm!! Who will make it to the aisle first? haha I just want to see the photos and share in the love & happiness. ok off topic. sorry! LOL trying to think of an on topic reply, but don't really feel inclined to give one atm.
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Violets
Moderator Posts: 2441
From: Twin Peaks
Registered: Apr 2011
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posted January 29, 2014 09:34 PM
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
My point was I think it's all usually related. For example you might here a news story about a poor black guy getting hassled by the cops and it becomes a media circus revolving around his race. People get fired up and deem it all a race issue when the reality might be that he is being profiled because he lives in the hood. You also have to wonder if he would be getting hassled if he drove a nice car and lived in a nice neighborhood. I'm not trivializing any discrimination at all, I'm saying I think it's all related. I think most discrimination is based on class and less on gender or color, however that's not to say that those types of discrimination don't exist. But you can't deny the fact that a woman or person of color that is from a wealthy family that is well connected is going to have it easier than a poor man. By the same token a white man from a rich family is going to have it easier than a poor person of color or a poor woman.
Well...I don't think that it always works that way, as women and minorities (they're not actually minorities for the record) are often still discriminated against even when they have money, but it can manifest in more subtle ways. Or not so subtle ways. But I do agree that people are most definitely discriminated against for being poor. And that's terrible. I'm sorry that you had to experience that, although I don't often hear you complain about it. IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze
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From: Pluto with Barbiegirl19
Registered: Nov 2013
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posted January 29, 2014 09:44 PM
I've never been happier and that's the truth! I had begun to give up on the possibility and boom.... There she was. I'm on my phone at work or I could probably go on and on. I edited out the rest for AG. LOL If you saw it and are upset. Well... Tough. LOL IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted January 29, 2014 09:50 PM
AG did not say a racist thing, Friends. Please, don't go there. I am so happy about our LL couple. Lets talk about that! I have questions ------------------
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