posted January 29, 2014 09:52 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
AG did not say a racist thing, Friends.

Please, don't go there. I am so happy about our LL couple. Lets talk about that!

I have questions

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posted January 29, 2014 09:53 PM            

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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
Ask away lol
@DeepFreeze Hiii honey

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posted January 29, 2014 09:54 PM            

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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
Hi! I tried texting calling btw.
See? We just think so much alike it's scary. LOL

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posted January 29, 2014 09:55 PM            

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posted January 29, 2014 09:57 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
you guys should put up the synastry

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posted January 29, 2014 10:06 PM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
I am confused by how - one poster (who is not even a regular and people barely know them) can come on here and spill their "issues" most of which were basically the plight of any other human... and actually ask the question "why in the world do some people get all the tough luck in life?" ---- and get pity for their 'attitude'.... BUT... when AG shares such a personal experience after months and months of interacting with us - sooooo many jump down his throat and nullify his negative experiences.

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I don't mean to justify dogpiling him, and I can see where he's coming from in this thread, but I do understand why some are jumping down his throat. As you say he's interacted with us for a long time, but much of that was downplaying our problems, even denying we had them, while whining about his own. Therefore I understand why people aren't feeling sympathetic for him now, especially when you throw in that he acts as if his problems are the only ones in the world anyone has the right to complain about while all others are "myths" (granted, he feels his own problems get dismissed for being a white male). I won't argue that people should (to a point) attempt to be more understanding but I also understand why people are more sympathetic to someone who hasn't constantly criticized and even vilified the people (or at least demographic they belong to) here.

posted January 29, 2014 10:16 PM            

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posted January 29, 2014 10:17 PM            

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posted January 29, 2014 10:20 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Do you want to start a new thread about just you guys. Post the synastry on it. I want to hear how you met etc. What it was like etc!

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posted January 29, 2014 10:21 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Do you want to start a new thread about just you guys. Post the synastry on it. I want to hear how you met etc. What it was like etc!

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posted January 29, 2014 10:49 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
You also have to wonder if he would be getting hassled if he drove a nice car and lived in a nice neighborhood.

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You've got to be kidding. I told you that it's a daily occurrence for me. I have my 4th Amendment rights violated all the time... unreasonable searches and seizures for no reason whatsoever. I get stopped by the police just so that they can check my drivers' license and make sure that the car isn't stolen. Last month, I got a warning ticket for drinking coffee in my car.. coffee.. at a stop light while the vehicle wasn't even in motion.

A cop once asked me while I was just innocently parking my car: "Is this car yours? Show me the registration and your license." His hand was right on his service 9mm pistol as he was talking to me. It wasn't even a traffic stop.

I got hassled in my driveway in my house and the cop took a walk around my car just to make sure that nothing is illegal. That's a violation of my 6th Amendment rights... Why? Some anonymous neighbor didn't like that I was vacuuming my car interior in the middle of a sunny day in my driveway, and the person is White... well, nobody else living on my street is *not* White.

I was once pulled over and handcuffed without reason, face down on the asphalt, boot on my shoulder, wearing my office suit simply because there was an armed robbery in my neighborhood and the suspect was supposed to be Asian. Turned out the apprehended suspect was 30 years younger than me, 2 inches shorter and 4 inches smaller in the waist. I just look like Wing, Wang, Wai and Wong. Never mind they just got Wrong Wong.

Sorry for your suffering as a kid. You don't have a monopoly on suffering and you haven't cornered that market.

Discrimination goes in all forms and manner. Kids on the street poured their bottled water on me as I walked to my office. Even then, I asked them if they were hungry and bought them coffee and bagels. Even as they can't stand the fact that I have a job and throw snide remarks at me. They don't have a meaningful job because the economy sucks sh1t. Not their fault. But it's also not my fault that I worked hard for what I have, busting my azz everyday, working 15+ hours a day.

You're not getting anywhere as long as you keep feeling sorry for yourself. I suggest that you put on your steel toe boots and kick the crap out of the competition and make your own name for yourself.

I'm not telling you explicitly to "grow up," but I am sort of doing so anyway. You can feel insulted, and I'm sorry if you do. At the end of the day, please just... grow.

I promised myself that I wouldn't post ever again, and I have broken that promise to myself, and also to Ami. I'm posting this last bit just for you because I have hope for you and believe that you will make a success for yourself. You can tell me to F myself if you like. That's ok with me. I just wish you well.

posted January 29, 2014 11:41 PM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
You've got to be kidding. I told you that it's a daily occurrence for me. I have my 4th Amendment rights violated all the time... unreasonable searches and seizures for no reason whatsoever. I get stopped by the police just so that they can check my drivers' license and make sure that the car isn't stolen. Last month, I got a warning ticket for drinking coffee in my car.. coffee.. at a stop light while the vehicle wasn't even in motion.

A cop once asked me while I was just innocently parking my car: "Is this car yours? Show me the registration and your license." His hand was right on his service 9mm pistol as he was talking to me. It wasn't even a traffic stop.

I got hassled in my driveway in my house and the cop took a walk around my car just to make sure that nothing is illegal. That's a violation of my 6th Amendment rights... Why? Some anonymous neighbor didn't like that I was vacuuming my car interior in the middle of a sunny day in my driveway, and the person is White... well, nobody else living on my street is *not* White.

I was once pulled over and handcuffed without reason, face down on the asphalt, boot on my shoulder, wearing my office suit simply because there was an armed robbery in my neighborhood and the suspect was supposed to be Asian. Turned out the apprehended suspect was 30 years younger than me, 2 inches shorter and 4 inches smaller in the waist. I just look like Wing, Wang, Wai and Wong. Never mind they just got Wrong Wong.

Sorry for your suffering as a kid. You don't have a monopoly on suffering and you haven't cornered that market.

Discrimination goes in all forms and manner. Kids on the street poured their bottled water on me as I walked to my office. Even then, I asked them if they were hungry and bought them coffee and bagels. Even as they can't stand the fact that I have a job and throw snide remarks at me. They don't have a meaningful job because the economy sucks sh1t. Not their fault. But it's also not my fault that I worked hard for what I have, busting my azz everyday, working 15+ hours a day.

You're not getting anywhere as long as you keep feeling sorry for yourself. I suggest that you put on your steel toe boots and kick the crap out of the competition and make your own name for yourself.

I'm not telling you explicitly to "grow up," but I am sort of doing so anyway. You can feel insulted, and I'm sorry if you do. At the end of the day, please just... grow.

I promised myself that I wouldn't post ever again, and I have broken that promise to myself, and also to Ami. I'm posting this last bit just for you because I have hope for you and believe that you will make a success for yourself. You can tell me to F myself if you like. That's ok with me. I just wish you well.

Cheers.

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posted January 30, 2014 08:42 AM            

Ok I agree with what you're saying about how economics/class is intertwined with everything else.. But you have to consider, did money exist in the time of dinosaurs? Cause ever since the beginning of capitalism wealth has been strongly linked at least to race, and not just because white people are magically better money makers than everyone else.. Money is a piece of paper or a number on a computer.. it's a certain *power framework* that keeps the world spinning this way. It also definitely relates to gender, but I won't go there because it's not important and I hope you at least see the race part.

I'm not trying to discount anything you've been through... Just saying we're all part of a "bigger system" whether we personally end up screwed or not lol.

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posted January 30, 2014 09:14 AM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
I promised myself that I wouldn't post ever again, and I have broken that promise to myself, and also to Ami. I'm posting this last bit just for you because I have hope for you and believe that you will make a success for yourself. You can tell me to F myself if you like. That's ok with me. I just wish you well.

Cheers.

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posted January 30, 2014 10:28 AM            

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[QUOTE The notions that men are inherently more privileged than women and whites are inherently more privileged than minorities is a myth that needs to go the way of the dinosaur. This is coming from a white man who has been a victim of the system. So perhaps now you can better understand where I'm coming from.

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Ok I agree with what you're saying about how economics/class is intertwined with everything else.. But you have to consider, did money exist in the time of dinosaurs? Cause ever since the beginning of capitalism wealth has been strongly linked at least to race, and not just because white people are magically better money makers than everyone else.. Money is a piece of paper or a number on a computer.. it's a certain *power framework* that keeps the world spinning this way. It also definitely relates to gender, but I won't go there because it's not important and I hope you at least see the race part.

I'm not trying to discount anything you've been through... Just saying we're all part of a "bigger system" whether we personally end up screwed or not lol.

eta: white people aren't the "majority" of the world, and soon won't be in the U.S. even. Sorry just had to point out lol..[/B][/QUOTE]

posted January 30, 2014 01:33 PM            

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Originally posted by FireMoon:
On a different note.. don't leave YTA!! Yeah I might adamantly disagree with some things you believe in regarding Christianity, but I think you have a lot to contribute and should really stick around! Conflicts are what life's all about right lol

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Firemoon,

Thank you for your kind remarks and I appreciate your candor.

My interest wasn't exactly to leave but to not post. In that regard, I will hereforth respond in kind and post strategically.

The bottom line is that while my viewpoints provide diversity in opinion, they are by themselves antithetical to prevailing consensuses. My views can be presented, but they serve little purpose beyond diversity.

As you correctly pointed, my thought processes, values and conduct are diametrical to this forum and the antipodal opposition is rather evident.

posted January 30, 2014 09:35 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Of course white people aren't the majority and other races aren't the minorities. But that's what the media would have you believe. I just used those specific terms because someone would have jumped all over me if I didn't.just like they would if I said the sky is blue or the grass is green. Lmao

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Yeah the media is really kind of a joke.. I considered going into journalism, but after looking into the "professional" route there's no way I could make that a career. Something like 6 corporations now own the majority of US news and entertainment networks.. how convenient lol

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:

I think the powers that be try to deceive us by making us think sexism and/or racism are the real issues when they really aren't. For example you might here a news story about a poor black guy getting hassled by the cops and it becomes a media circus revolving around his race. People get fired up and deem it all a race issue when the reality might be that he is being profiled because he lives in the hood.

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I also completely agree it's easy for cops to get away with some pretty crazy and unethical sh*t. But I think you have this part a little backwards... A black guy from "the hood" can get hassled by cops just for "being suspicious", ie suspected of "gang activities", etc. any number of ridiculous stereotypes that can make for a convenient justification. And this does tend to get shown much more often and in a different light in the media.. So in some ways wealthy black men (for example) could be targeted even more severely for going against the stereotypes (basically having to deal with people thinking they're going to steal something or whip out a gun at any moment when they're just trying to have a nice meal or something)

It seems like it should be irrelevant how the media portrays things, but a lot of people really are pretty gullible.. And when the US government decides to invade/ "help" other "less civilized" nations, a lot of people here don't seem to think twice about it. Again it's often for an economic agenda, but race and culture get strongly woven into the justification. And sometimes part of the story is to "save" victimized women from the "evil" men in those nations/cultures which is where it comes full circle...

I won't get too into that lol but another random thought on how gender relates is that turns out making women feel insecure about themselves and wanting to buy endless amounts of beauty/hair products, self improvement stuff, etc. is pretty profitable. A lot of people think things are so "liberal" now and sexism doesn't exist anymore, but in some ways it's gotten worse or hasn't changed much..
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/17/lego-ad-1981_n_4617704.html?ncid=edlink usaolp00000009

http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/12/05/how-far-we-havent-come-all-of-the-terrible-ways-the-media-treated-women-in-2013-in-one-video/[/URL]

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Firemoon,

Thank you for your kind remarks and I appreciate your candor.

My interest wasn't exactly to leave but to not post. In that regard, I will hereforth respond in kind and post strategically.

The bottom line is that while my viewpoints provide diversity in opinion, they are by themselves antithetical to prevailing consensuses. My views can be presented, but they serve little purpose beyond diversity.

As you correctly pointed, my thought processes, values and conduct are diametrical to this forum and the antipodal opposition is rather evident.

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I think challenging each other's opinions and beliefs can always be useful even if it's also frustrating lol.. And I think even if you don't really believe in the validity of astrology, you still have insightful things to add so I'm glad you're not leaving completely!