posted March 27, 2014 10:21 AM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
What a lot of people don't realize is one man can get an infinite number of women pregnant all at roughly the same time while one woman can carry the child(ren) of only one man at a time. So you see, it is much more a problem for men because if they are not careful, and they have sex with multiple partners without any birth control, they could end up with 20, 30 children from several different women simply because they can impregnate more than one at a time.

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And it's not a function of more birth control.

It's a function of not having sex with a multitude of women concurrently and sequentially.

posted March 27, 2014 10:51 AM            

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Originally posted by rajji:
That is what i was alluding to all the while.
Intrinsically men and women are made different.They are not equal forces but complementary forces.When these forces operate against nature, A family becomes dysfunctional!
A man begets, A woman bears.
A man Leads, A woman follows.
“A woman simply is, but a man must become. Masculinity is risky and elusive. It is achieved by a revolt from woman, and is confirmed only by other men. Manhood coerced into sensitivity is no manhood at all.” –Camille Paglia
“Stand true to your calling to be a man. Real women will always be relieved and grateful when men are willing to be men.” –Elisabeth Elliott

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posted March 27, 2014 11:09 PM            

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Originally posted by rajji:
A man Leads, A woman follows.
“A woman simply is, but a man must become. Masculinity is risky and elusive. It is achieved by a revolt from woman, and is confirmed only by other men. Manhood coerced into sensitivity is no manhood at all.” –Camille Paglia
“Stand true to your calling to be a man. Real women will always be relieved and grateful when men are willing to be men.” –Elisabeth Elliott

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Not really. Plenty of dysfunctional families have the type of men and women you describe while plenty of healthy families do not. And many cultures actually divide spheres of influence so a man leads outside the home but a woman rules within it (in some cases she even controls the money the man makes, though that comes with heavy obligations that are socially enforced), and that actually makes a lot of sense to me though I see no reason to make it an iron-clad rule.

Even the Vikings had more respect for women than the one that became dominant, and they were known to serve admirably as warriors in times of desperation. From what I've read I wouldn't be surprised if one of the reasons (though not most compelling) many Scandinavians traveled on ship (without women) was to get out of the household where their wives sometimes put them in their place (and while Vikings did sometimes bring slaves back the wife, first one anyway, was typically in charge of them once they were taken into the home). And once when the men left to fight others some Vikings of another land decided to raid, rape, and pillage the women and children left behind (as they had to take care of the home, a very important duty for their survival) which did not end well for them:
http://www.badassoftheweek.com/blenda.html

She's celebrated today, and plenty who revere the Scandinavian gods also celebrate Queen Sigrid who refused to bow before any man she considered beneath her, even arranged the death of the man who slapped her when she refused to convert to Christianity and marry him. It's rather funny today how many think it was more like the male supremacy of Gor.

Sure, there are differences between men and women, biology demands at least a few (though as we gain more control of our bodies they become less relevant) but they're not as extreme as you'd define them.

posted March 27, 2014 11:30 PM            

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Originally posted by rajji:
That is what i was alluding to all the while.
Intrinsically men and women are made different.They are not equal forces but complementary forces.When these forces operate against the laws of nature, A family becomes dysfunctional!
A man begets, A woman bears.
A man Leads, A woman follows.
“A woman simply is, but a man must become. Masculinity is risky and elusive. It is achieved by a revolt from woman, and is confirmed only by other men. Manhood coerced into sensitivity is no manhood at all.” –Camille Paglia
“Stand true to your calling to be a man. Real women will always be relieved and grateful when men are willing to be men.” –Elisabeth Elliott

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In the advocatius diaboli tradition

Assume all of that is how it is in the world

Meanwhile, the snowflake in question has been with dozens of men, on the outside of course all is prim and proper and fun!

Yes!

Meanwhile, you would never know about their past (and future consequences from it, after all, most divorces are initiated by women b/c of not happy) and the whole "be a man" schtick is ones world view.