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rajji
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posted March 24, 2014 05:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rajji     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why do some women have multiple baby daddies? If you already have a baby from one man and it doesn't work out with him,should you have a baby from another man? Why do some women have a baby with everyman they get with. When does it stop? Or does the women somehow think having a baby with this man will hold him in the relationship?Is it the woman's fault or of the man who is involved with her?

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posted March 24, 2014 10:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for page one     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ag, is that you?

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posted March 24, 2014 10:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by rajji:
Why do some women have multiple baby daddies? If you already have a baby from one man and it doesn't work out with him,should you have a baby from another man? Why do some women have a baby with everyman they get with. When does it stop? Or does the women somehow think having a baby with this man will hold him in the relationship?Is it the woman's fault or of the man who is involved with her?

The societal mores did not allow for this in times past. People were shunned. Now, it is accepted and so people do it imo.

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posted March 24, 2014 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by rajji:
Why do some women have multiple baby daddies? If you already have a baby from one man and it doesn't work out with him,should you have a baby from another man? Why do some women have a baby with everyman they get with. When does it stop? Or does the women somehow think having a baby with this man will hold him in the relationship?Is it the woman's fault or of the man who is involved with her?

Hey it's not woman's fault she carries them so we seem to have the babies just because woman is the incubator.
It's no one's business but hers and the one she is with how many babies she has. A woman is free to divorce and remarry. If men were the ones who carried the babies it would be a non issue, they would be having them left and right and would act like it's a divine mission and proof God made them the strongest and women are weak blah blah blah.
Men are just jealous that women can carry them and men cannot.
So just remember next time you get jealous, nature made us that way. It's just the way we turned out. Don't take it so personally, 'k?

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Randall
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posted March 24, 2014 04:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Trust me, I'm not jealous that women can have babies. At some point, men will be able to do so with a little help of science, and I bet there won't be very many standing in that line.

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posted March 24, 2014 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
First, thought I'd share something that happened last time I was visiting family during one of the worst Texas heat waves. Tempers were short and an aunt told me it was "suspicious" that I was still single and without child at age 28, and I asked her for advice given that she's "an expert on your 3rd husband with kids by each one." Again, it was a terrible heat wave that made everyone's tempers short but I think she considered violence when I said that. She then agreed with others in my family that California had corrupted me and I should move back and she resorted to profanity (and to go back to California) when I said, "Living here would push me to religion, probably Wicca."

Good thing for her she didn't push it. It was "suspicious" because she figured I was gay, but as a good Baptist she'd have flinched if I reminded her in the same chapter that Jesus SORT OF defines marriage between a man and a woman (not clear if he was speaking generally or making a definitive point) he also said that all sex (aside from your spouse) after marriage--and divorce--was adultery (even if you remarry), and given that (as far as I know) none of her previous marriages ended because of infidelity on her part (not sure if a marriage can be ended if the man cheats--talking about the Bible here when things were different when it was written down) then that means she's an adulteress by having sex and children with her 3rd husband and her marriage is just as sinful according to a literal interpretation of the Bible as that between 2 men, and the Texas constitution should ban marriages like hers just as it did gays, because God says so. Not sure if it was too bad or dodging a bullet that she dropped it before I pointed that out (I was ready to lay it on her). Ah well, I look back on what did happen and get a laugh out of it.

'Course even better stuff happened while there, it even got surreal when I had the best day with my mom ever...

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posted March 24, 2014 05:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
On a more serious note, why should she raise the children alone? Conversely, why should children be raised by a couple who aren't in love with each other?

And why don't you mention the men who sow their seed far and wide and also have many children both in and out of marriage?

Do you think that men and women (or just one gender) should be made infertile after they've had children? What if either the mother or father dies?

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posted March 24, 2014 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just don't have any babies out of wedlock, that's all.

It's a function of a breakdown in values and the importance/integrity of the family unit.

And a factor of men who can't keep their wee wees zipped up where they ought to be.

In the old days, all sex before and after and on-the-side-during marriage is sinful. These days, all sex before and after marriage is perfectly Kosher, and the sex-on-the-side-during thing is also gaining traction with questionable concepts like "open" marriages.

There should be no sowing of seeds unless there is the associated follow up nurturing and harvesting. And no tillers and hoes on the side either.

If parents were true parents, properly raising children....

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posted March 24, 2014 08:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wait are people not aware of history at all..? *facepalm*

There a reason why bastardddd is a middle english term.
It was very common especially amongst royalty.
Back when people did not have much hobbies besides liaisons and NO BIRTHCONTROL........
Now instead of ******* the stable boy we spend time on tumblr

So yes this has always been around... It's still shunned for the most part.
And really we're animals so what's the big deal anyways..

Yup people were married at 16 but many of them had lovers or what not, Only moral conscious people think their time period is full of sin but it's always been like this.

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posted March 24, 2014 10:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It just depends how traditional you are. After all marriage was the promise of supporting a woman with guarantee of paternity to the father supporting it.

I'm more of a traditionalist myself and like having kids in wedlock with stable marriage as there is no half-sibling or step-sibling conflict, de factos involved but I realise the world doesn't work like that and things happen.

YTA - my understanding is that humans are only programmed to stick together for the two-year honeymoon period, until the child is physically strong enough to be supported by the mother along (ie the toddler age).

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posted March 24, 2014 11:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If I had my druthers then society would return to matrilineal descent as patrilineality is no longer needed since women are now considered fully human along with men. I can't think of a single good reason not to switch to it, though I suppose those women worried about obligations of child support by ex-husbands might be wary of the concept.

Btw, in some primitive regions a woman will have multiple husbands at the same time. The reason for this is because the men live very dangerous lives and sickness, injury & death is common among them while the women are expected to stay in the villages to raise the children (and prepare the food, etc).

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posted March 24, 2014 11:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
PJ - the more cynical viewers would say that it's already matrilineal in western societies as many have benefits schemes which acts as dad. As well as courts that decide "in favour" of women.

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posted March 24, 2014 11:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Those cynical people weren't raised out of wedlock.

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posted March 25, 2014 12:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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PJ - the more cynical viewers would say that it's already matrilineal in western societies as many have benefits schemes which acts as dad. As well as courts that decide "in favour" of women.

If anything more Patriarchy is needed, to your point, it is not so much the State playing "dad", as the benefits still do not outweigh the responsibilites of a single mom.

As for how it happens, from what I've seen some women really idealize "love and romance" and the baby just comes from that world view..each new serious relationship becomes "the One!!!"

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posted March 25, 2014 12:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Children deserve to have solid, stable homes with both parents. I never understood the multiple father thing either. My second brother and I have the same father and the other two brothers have different fathers. Never understood it and never bothered to really ask. I don't like using the term "baby daddies or mamas" as it's extremely degrading and just not cool. I think it's all just a mind state and going to sex for help. Believing that sex is love and when the father leaves them they look for that "love" somewhere else and the cyle just repeats itself. It's pretty sad.

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posted March 25, 2014 12:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well,I'm going to give my opinion but most aren't going to like it. Lol IMO it all boils down to the fact that alot of women these days have poor taste in men. Of course I have said this a million times before,so its nothing new. I know one girl in particular who got pregnant by a guy who already had two kids that he had nothing to do with and she was surprised when he abandoned her when she had the kid. Its like really? Are you really surprised that this happened? If women would stop spreading their legs for deadbeats this sort of thing could be avoided.

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posted March 25, 2014 12:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Part of it might be faulty dads giving a bad role model for their daughters or even their mums...I really do believe both sexes are to blame.

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posted March 25, 2014 12:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh Boy

This is better than the last one!

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posted March 25, 2014 12:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're really on a roll.

When you had problems posting it was because your posts are so awesome - LL doesn't have the capacity to process that much awesomeness all at once.

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posted March 25, 2014 12:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Part of it might be faulty dads giving a bad role model for their daughters or even their mums...I really do believe both sexes are to blame.

Well yes, that goes without saying. But women are ultimately responsible for themselves and their children because they are the ones who get pregnant. It is their responsibility to make sure a man is a suitable father figure before going to bed with him. And if a woman simply must hook-up with men of questionable character there are condoms, birth control,and the morning after pill to prevent pregnancy. Thus women have know one to blame but themselves when they get pregnant by deadbeats.

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posted March 25, 2014 12:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just to be clear I wasn't saying women should raise kids by themselves (though that's one option) but that the surname should come from the woman rather than the man. She can still be married for that to happen (in fact, she MUST be married for that to happen, otherwise there's no question about whose surname is going to be passed down with matrilineal/patrilineal being irrelevant).

My granny raised her kids out of wedlock, but not often by herself. She had help for awhile, including living on a commune, before she finally went home where the extended family helped (and they all share land together). Her kids don't have fond memories of how they were treated for being so-called "illegitimate," but most of that dislike was for how they were socially treated rather than the material hardships of having a single mother.

Still, I certainly preferred being one of 2 children raised by my granny (and the rest of the extended family involved) than I did as a single child of a two-parent household, and I knew more love, security, and discipline under granny than under a mother & father. Unfortunately, the courts do care more about the best interests of the mother rather than the child so that kids like me (or was, once upon a time) get turned into cash cows and the like for women who are unfit mothers.

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posted March 25, 2014 01:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Well yes, that goes without saying. But women are ultimately responsible for themselves and their children because they are the ones who get pregnant. It is their responsibility to make sure a man is a suitable father figure before going to bed with him. And if a woman simply must hook-up with men of questionable character there are condoms, birth control,and the morning after pill to prevent pregnancy. Thus women have know one to blame but themselves when they get pregnant by deadbeats.

Moral arguments aside, this is one of the more boggling aspects of that situation.

It is not some mystery where babies are created and how to keep it from happening.

And yet

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posted March 25, 2014 01:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Moral arguments aside, this is one of the more boggling aspects of that situation.

It is not some mystery where babies are created and how to keep it from happening.

And yet


Exactly. I will never understand it. But.. People are going to do what they are going to do.

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posted March 25, 2014 03:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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If women would stop spreading their legs for deadbeats this sort of thing could be avoided.

I think what you meant to say is.. if women (or people in general) were more educated re: contraception... then.. this sort of thing could be avoided

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posted March 25, 2014 04:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Exactly. I will never understand it.

It's called being h*rny.

You never get h*rny?

Doesn't anything turn you on? Is this an Aquarius thing?

People are animals. People want to fu*ck. Women want to fu*ck. It is not rocket science

Of course.. contraception is very important - when you do not have the maturity or the means to raise children.
And it is unfortunate that people (both men and women) are not more precautious.

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