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Ami Anne
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posted March 31, 2014 08:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Turn them into friends

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posted March 31, 2014 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If Cata is there, this is funny. This guy came on my website to try to bother me, he told me later.

He was arguing me about my views on Eris because he had it prominently. He told me that Eris was like a sex god.

I was just kind to him and warm and did not take the bait and now he is one of my biggest readers and a friend.

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posted March 31, 2014 09:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I find it interesting how you consider people you argue with enemies...

How do you function socially? LOL

But themes like hate and enemies seems to quite prominent in your mind...

Do you have prominent pluto?

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Ami Anne
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posted March 31, 2014 09:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am cool socially. I am Libra ASC. I am super gracious

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posted March 31, 2014 09:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
People attack me online more than real life.

In real life, I am sweet and nice but if someone is bad to me, I will remove myself but not be a jerk about it.

If I have to be strong, I will but I don't usually have to.

People treat me pretty well and I do the same.

Libra ASC is all about win/win.

I learned many of these skills from LL and later my website. I learned how to stand up and be firm but not rude etc

I learned by screwing up and having people like Randall, Lalalinda and IQ still love me.

Love is really what heals, when you get right down to it.

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posted March 31, 2014 09:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Grinding your teeth while trying to smiling is something others can notice.

Not only that people can sense fakeness from miles away. That's probably why you have "enemies" even though you are super gracious

It's okay to dislike others and even express your disapproval it's more healthy because i find trying to be nice to people you dislike is worse since you end up resenting them even more and harboring hate.

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posted March 31, 2014 09:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CatMote     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
maybe its the libra asc as well, but being kind to somebody youy dont like isnt fake.

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posted March 31, 2014 10:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by CatMote:
maybe its the libra asc as well, but being kind to somebody youy dont like isnt fake.


No, it really isn't. I try to show love to everyone, to the best of my ability.

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posted April 01, 2014 08:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sibyl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think this really depends...

I mean people don't generally make me their enemy...It's more the other way around. I'll intensely dislike someone and choose to teach them a lesson in karma.

I can't think of someone who has done it the other way around. This is puzzling! Where do enemies come from? I'm not sure I truly have any... If so I think maybe I just ignore it? Or laugh at it? Really, there's no way they can harm me anyway. I'm not accessible for that.

When I was younger I did have a girl who I was always forced to hang out with because we had common friends, and she was just incredibly spiteful. Thankfully she wasn't very smart about it, and said mean/demeaning things in everyone's presence which meant that I could be mean in private and play the victim in social settings. It made it quite impossible for her to continue as everyone took my side. So I extended the olive branch (in public obvs) and she took it. Really, what choice did she have? So maybe you're right! Ten years on, and she is one of my best friends. We've since ditched all the others we were hanging out with at that point .

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posted April 01, 2014 08:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I tried escaping from life and it did not work.

I think a person needs to learn to deal with all sorts of things while being true to himself. I think this is kind of the challenge of life.

I want to be kind and sweet but not naiive and taken advantage of by people. Trying to find that balance is hard, too.

One will be attacked by others if one is doing anything in the world of which others are jealous.

When I first came on LL, I would see people go after Randall and not understand why.

They were jealous that he built LL and it was magnificent.

He says he has learned many things by hard experiences. I think that is how I will learn, too.

I think I have a direction now and it is the above---walk through the world with your own integrity, as much as you can, and don't let anyone else decide or control YOUR agenda.

You do it! It is your right.

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posted April 01, 2014 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonWitch     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't really have anyone I consider an enemy. ENEMY is such a strong word for me and it would have to be extreme for me to consider someone such a thing. I guess, for me, giving someone the distinction of the title of enemy, they would have to be worthy in some way of earning that. Most annoying or irritating people aren't (thank goodness) and people I simply disagree with don't deserve that title either. I suppose several years ago I had a stalker that was trying to mess up my life that I could have considered an enemy at the time - but she was literally trying to get into my life, trying to get access to my kid, talking to my ex husband and causing him to come pound on my door at 2am, put me in the hospital with panic attacks, etc.

Disagreeing with someone or arguing with someone online or offline doesn't make someone an enemy with me. They'd have to be consciously trying to mess up my life for me to consider calling them that. So... it would be monumentally difficult if not impossible for me to become friends with someone that I truly considered an enemy.

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posted April 02, 2014 07:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jo B     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Generally I just ignore anyone I don't like or I know doesn't like me. Life is hard enough without having that horrible extra negativity and conflict in your life. This includes family members unfortunately.

If someone comes at me though in a threatening way which is totally unjustified I will deal with them swiftly. I'm laidback until provoked. (Libra Asc/Leo Mars I guess)


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Interesting about your ASC/Mars, Jo.

I am a Libra ASC, Cancer Mars so I have a super, super slow boil.

However, once that boil gets reached, the cardinal side of the mars comes out and those people regret it but that point will take a lot of provocation but if you hate my heritage, I have a zero boil

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I either do that, get back at them, or avoid them like the plague.

I draw on my eyebrows,
and once this girl who is sort of my friend said she thought they were ugly.
So I went home that day feeling really crappy about myself.
THE NEXT DAY
I come to school and tell her
"You know how you said my eyebrows are ugly? Well I think your buck teeth are ugly too!"
And shes black so the way she reacted was "MMMMM girl, if it was any other black girl they'd whip your ass. But me, I'm nice!" Anyways that was it, long story short. That told her not to be mean to me. & it was a really stupid thing to do, but maybe it will teach her to be nice to people next time.

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The problem with insulting them in return is they feel like they have to think of another thing to insult in return so you insult them and it just continues. It is far easier to try to turn them into friends if possible.
Sometimes you can't win no matter what. I got picked on by a merciless kid in one of my classes and I tried everything, insulting, befriending, but he was determined to pick on me regardless so finally we ended up seated at different tables. I don't know what it is about some people and this obsessive drive they have. I honestly think there was something wrong with his brain why else would he be so obsessed? It was like an obsession. So, if someone is obsessed with picking on you, not much you can do about it. They won't respond to any attempt. They will just continue what they are doing like he did.
At the time I took it really personally. It would have been nice if someone would have said to me he has a mental problem, then it would have been easier to deal with. Instead, they made it sound like he was picking on me because of something about myself which I doubt was the real reason.

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posted April 02, 2014 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You got to use the right tool for the right person

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posted April 02, 2014 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jo B     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
However, once that boil gets reached, the cardinal side of the mars comes out and those people regret it but that point will take a lot of provocation but if you hate my heritage, I have a zero boil


haha, that's my mother in a nutshell (she's Cancer sun). She'll stew and bubble and boil until she eventually explodes. I don't think it's really good for your health to brood on things then letting rip because you lose control, but I guess everyone is different.

My anger or need to get vengeance is quick if someone is pressing the wrong buttons. I have a strong sense of justice (Libra asc I guess), then like the Leo mars lion I will go for the kill. I surprise myself sometimes because being a Virgo sun I tend to avoid conflict if I can help it.

SSS that's interesting re someone constantly picking at you. I was generally quite popular at school but there was ONE girl (we were both 13) who totally hated me and no matter how nice I tried to be she just had a major problem with me. I actually was quite disturbed by it because she was in my class and I had to see her on a daily basis, and I knew she had mental issues and violent tendencies as she punched me in the street once. Teenage girls can be scary! lol

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posted April 02, 2014 02:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL Cancer is a weird sign cuz it is super protective and super feminine( especially the Moon) but when it needs strength, it can dig deep and show how cardinal it is

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posted April 04, 2014 01:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSurvivor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How to deal with enemies is to be your own best friend. You see them as enemies because you give them the power to be so. As long as you do so then they will always be so.

The movie, Chocolate. Great example. The scene where the shop woman says to the battered wife "Your husband does not control the world" and the wife replies, "you do not know him". The reply "Then it must be so" changed her life. It is only as you believe it is.
[i can't remember the character names and the exact line]

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posted April 07, 2014 12:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm out too.
Basically... crap gets let go here that should NOT be let go. It should be handled. It shouldn't happen. (not just personal attacks etc as was mentioned. Inappropriate/graphic discussions)
Then, God forbid you point that out, it gets called "ridiculous".

The moderation here is inconsistent at best. It needs work. Linda Goodman would NOT be proud... be assured of that.

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Those threads shouldn't have gone on as long as they did. Yes, it should have been shut down earlier but we can't be around all the time.

I see people who want to "dish it out" but when they get a reaction become defensive (DF and Barbie).

You posting that in this thread is just a way to get the last word. You have it.
If you guys want to leave then leave. No need for the dramatic exits (seen it tooooo many times here over the years - and usually they want others to beg them to stay).

Best of luck to you both.

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posted April 07, 2014 10:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sibyl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For what it's worth DF, I don't think R was referring to either you or Barbie in particular, but to the thread in general (stay, go, no don't go) and the general topic of conversation ("you're mean, no you're mean"). It getting out of hand and was, all in all, not a very constructive conversation.

Anyway, that's just my take on it.

I also think that this is the wrong thread to post this! It's not like any of us are enemies here, come on, that's just taking it too far. If you want to continue this conversation (although I consider it pretty much case closed, I agree with the above post on that matter), perhaps you could take it in the venting thread instead? It seems more appropriate.

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posted April 07, 2014 11:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In my 6 years here, there have been a lot of fights.

There are fewer now than when I first came on.

Some of those were so wild that a soap opera could not compete but now, the fights are mild, in comparison.

I used to be in the fights with a feeling of death if I did not win. Once, I almost left because this awful person dissed me and I felt my pride was on the line.

This person seems to have left. My feeling is that when we all raise the vibe here, the people who want to instigate fights will leave. Vibes determine a lot. These people don't like positive vibes.

However, I would see IQ and he would quietly move away from fights and come back when they were over.

He just did not want to waste his time. I am more of that mind now, but not as good as he is

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In my 6 years here, there have been a lot of fights.

There are fewer now than when I first came on.

Some of those were so wild that a soap opera could not compete but now, the fights are mild, in comparison.

I used to be in the fights with a feeling of death if I did not win. Once, I almost left because this awful person dissed me and I felt my pride was on the line.

This person seems to have left. My feeling is that when we all raise the vibe here, the people who want to instigate fights will leave. Vibes determine a lot. These people don't like positive vibes.

However, I would see IQ and he would quietly move away from fights and come back when they were over.

He just did not want to waste his time. I am more of that mind now, but not as good as he is


This is very admirable!

I did see that you made a rather hasty escape in the first thread

This is a big challenge for me. I'm too quick to pick up the battle axe if I feel someone crosses my friends or my ideals (which are many). They don't even have to be gunning for me, but sometimes I just feel like people have it coming for them.

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posted April 07, 2014 12:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jo B     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
At the end of the day, words are just words on the internet ("sticks n stones will break my bones, etc"). The times when mods should come down hard on people is when personal information is broadcast about another member, or when there is a clear case of consistent and relentless attacking on other members with no provocation whatsoever.

I've only been on this board a couple of months and the fights seem fairly mild compared to other discussion forums I've been on. Life is too short to get engaged in pointless flame wars with people you don't know and are never likely to meet, in my book, although I do think it depends on the maturity of the people involved.

EDIT - lol Sybil, we posted at the same time but I just read your story.

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