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Desiring Shadows Moderator Posts: 2453 From: UNITED STATES, BABY Registered: Jan 2012
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posted April 30, 2014 01:34 PM
quote: Originally posted by Sibyl: Who said the popular crowd was socially intelligent? I think you will find that the popular kids in highschool are not not necessarily well liked, nor will they necessarily do very well later in life. If they were so socially smart, there wouldn't be so much drama. You can't equate popularity to social intelligence!
They could be infamous.
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Sibyl Knowflake Posts: 661 From: Uranus Registered: Dec 2010
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posted April 30, 2014 02:13 PM
quote: Originally posted by Desiring Shadows: They could be infamous.
Yes, I think so too. I think social intelligence has much more to do with effective negotiation in relationships, an ability to communicate clearly, minimizing conflicts through communication skills, an ability to understand other people, their perspectives, and being able to "read" others well. I also think socially intelligent people are generally able to have quite harmonious relationships. I don't think back-stabbing, gossiping, "mean girls" are able to do that well. There are too many other factors that play into "popularity" such as looks, status, money, other skills, and last but definitely not least - manipulation... IP: Logged |
Sibyl Knowflake Posts: 661 From: Uranus Registered: Dec 2010
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posted April 30, 2014 02:22 PM
I also find that "Popularity" changes with age. In high school popularity was more about drinking, having sex and driving a car. At my University popularity often translates to money. Other factors that play in is looks and extraversion. I have at least the latter two so I am considered to be quite popular here, being friendly also really helps. In contrast I know a girl who is extremely rich (and with very old money), and I guess she would be considered popular as she is always invited/included (allot of people want to be friends with someone who hangs with royalty), but everyone hates her. She is just plain nasty, and her constantly disdainful expression makes her extremely ugly in my opinion. I think later in life popularity usually translates to both money and other successes. But even if you don't have that, being friendly and extraverted will make people want to have you around so I think being nice is enough to make you popular too. The "mean girls" attitude simply doesn't fly anymore where I'm at, though I guess it would be quite divergent depending on where you are and what social scene you find yourself in. IP: Logged |
Violets Moderator Posts: 3439 From: Twin Peaks Registered: Apr 2011
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posted April 30, 2014 03:06 PM
Ughh. Try moving from a very progressive, liberal city, working in a fun non-profit environment with other like-minded people (for the most part), and then moving to a smaller town 30 miles away and joining the Stay At Home Mom Club.Some of the women around here have nothing better to do besides talk about each other, apparently. *Barf* I love hanging out with my Aquarius Sun/Sag Moon friend who loves gardening and drinking coffee with me, and our kids can hang out and have fun together. We don't sit around and gossip; we have more interesting things to talk about. IP: Logged |
Violets Moderator Posts: 3439 From: Twin Peaks Registered: Apr 2011
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posted April 30, 2014 05:07 PM
Sorry, I suppose I just "vented" there, which is probably not very nice. I often find that I could be considerably more diplomatic with my choice of words. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 9284 From: tennessee Registered: Jan 2012
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posted April 30, 2014 05:17 PM
But how does that make you feel?IP: Logged |
Violets Moderator Posts: 3439 From: Twin Peaks Registered: Apr 2011
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posted April 30, 2014 06:33 PM
quote: Originally posted by aquaguy91: But how does that make you feel?
Uh...are you being sarcastic? IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 9284 From: tennessee Registered: Jan 2012
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posted April 30, 2014 06:55 PM
quote: Originally posted by Violets: Uh...are you being sarcastic?
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Violets Moderator Posts: 3439 From: Twin Peaks Registered: Apr 2011
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posted April 30, 2014 07:30 PM
quote: Originally posted by aquaguy91: No
Okay, sorry...I wasn't sure. Anyway, which part? How does what make me feel? Gossipy, b*tchy ladies with nothing to do, or the fact that when I vent about them (even if not one person specifically, and to people who don't know them) I don't feel like I'm acting much better than they are? I don't talk about them very often, for the record. The thought sort of popped into my head with the recent conversation with the other girl I know. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 9284 From: tennessee Registered: Jan 2012
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posted April 30, 2014 07:33 PM
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Violets Moderator Posts: 3439 From: Twin Peaks Registered: Apr 2011
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posted April 30, 2014 07:39 PM
Hm. Listening to them talk really negatively about other moms (or dads) who are probably there at the facility with their kids makes me feel sick to my stomach. I don't really want to listen to that, even if it's just me accidentally overhearing them. I try to tune them out.Similarly, if I read a particularly nasty comment here or a really hateful post on Facebook or something, it also makes me feel mildly sick (maybe not literally, but a little bit...it makes my stomach knot up). Hatefulness is really unpleasant, although I'm capable of feeling that way myself. But it obviously doesn't feel good. If I'm venting about someone because they've completely driven me to the point of losing all patience, I still feel pretty badly. It's really just not good to word things in a negative way, I think. It feels much more pleasant to me if I word things in a way that basically says "that's just the way they are, none of us are perfect", and I feel like I'm able to express my feelings without hostility. What about you? IP: Logged |
Violets Moderator Posts: 3439 From: Twin Peaks Registered: Apr 2011
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posted April 30, 2014 07:46 PM
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aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 9284 From: tennessee Registered: Jan 2012
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posted April 30, 2014 08:14 PM
I feel hungry.IP: Logged |
Violets Moderator Posts: 3439 From: Twin Peaks Registered: Apr 2011
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posted April 30, 2014 08:21 PM
quote: Originally posted by aquaguy91: I feel hungry.
Right now? Or when people act like d0chebags? Or just in general...? It's your Taurus Moon talking! IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 9284 From: tennessee Registered: Jan 2012
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posted April 30, 2014 08:23 PM
Hungry now. Thats why I ordered a pizza.IP: Logged |
Violets Moderator Posts: 3439 From: Twin Peaks Registered: Apr 2011
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posted April 30, 2014 08:26 PM
Okay, I'm going to go listen to music then (it's my Neptune talking). But I am genuinely curious to know how YOU feel about the stuff I was talking about. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 9284 From: tennessee Registered: Jan 2012
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posted April 30, 2014 08:30 PM
quote: Originally posted by Violets: Okay, I'm going to go listen to music then (it's my Neptune talking). But I am genuinely curious to know how YOU feel about the stuff I was talking about.
I feel like venting is essential to mental health, atleast thats the way I feel, moon and mars in the 3rd talking maybe? I vent about my problems with women here alot and some people call me crazy and one person said I was like George Sodini. But in reality I am a very even keeled person. I get angry, I vent, and it helps me and I get over it fairly quickly until I get angry and vent again. Thats the way I roll IP: Logged |
Violets Moderator Posts: 3439 From: Twin Peaks Registered: Apr 2011
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posted April 30, 2014 08:54 PM
^ I think that I'm basically that way as well. I have some placements and aspects that make venting and communication in general very important to me, but I do feel better after I vent. I feel even better if I can do it without feeling like I painted the other person in a super negative light (unless they're seriously just complete jerks).I can be explosive at times, though. I have Pluto in 3rd, and my Sun is conjunct BML and Pholus in 8th (trine Uranus). But I really do try not to be that way. If I need to go outside and do something really physically exerting to "vent", then I do that. But...I mean, I'm not perfect. I've been known to blow a gasket on occasion. At least verbally, anyway. Okay, maybe on more than one occasion. But it's pretty rare for the most part. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 9284 From: tennessee Registered: Jan 2012
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posted April 30, 2014 09:57 PM
Just to make myself clear, I dont ever see anything wrong with venting provided the person you are venting about knows you arent happy about what they are doing. Like I might say bad things about people here but the people I'm talking about know that I disapprove of their actions.IP: Logged |
Violets Moderator Posts: 3439 From: Twin Peaks Registered: Apr 2011
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posted April 30, 2014 10:07 PM
quote: Originally posted by aquaguy91: Just to make myself clear, I dont ever see anything wrong with venting provided the person you are venting about knows you arent happy about what they are doing. Like I might say bad things about people here but the people I'm talking about know that I disapprove of their actions.
Oh. Well, I prefer to keep the peace, so to speak. Like I said, I'm not particularly gifted at expressing myself in a way that's diplomatic if someone has seriously p*ssed me off. And a lot of the time (I know I'm repeating myself here), the other person is so unwilling to hear anything other than a "Hey, I think that's swell!" regarding their behavior that I simply don't bother with it. I might say it politely or bluntly once or twice, but after that I'm done. If someone isn't going to listen, they're not going to listen. And at work I tend to just keep that crap to myself, for the most part. Again, I might say something politely or even bluntly once or twice, but if they're not open to hearing it, what's the point? IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 9284 From: tennessee Registered: Jan 2012
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posted April 30, 2014 10:14 PM
Sometimes diplomacy and political correctness are not viable options and you need to go in guns blazing and tell the person they are a ******* .IP: Logged |
Violets Moderator Posts: 3439 From: Twin Peaks Registered: Apr 2011
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posted April 30, 2014 10:22 PM
Okay, for example:My mom does some seriously annoying sh*t that is completely counterproductive and irritating to everyone around her. I have kindly but bluntly told her that people are annoyed by (fill in the blank). She gets defensive, and basically ignores what I'm saying. It's like she has selective hearing (or selective mental abilities). I also realize that what I'm saying to her often hurts her feelings, in spite of the fact that what she's doing is completely dysfunctional. So now I just keep that stuff to myself, and occasionally vent to my husband, or my dad (who's been divorced from her for over 30 years), and rarely to my aunt (her sister). So...I've expressed my dismay, and I've seen that it's of little use for me to talk to her about any of it. So I vent to other people about it, preferably people who don't have any contact with her. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 9284 From: tennessee Registered: Jan 2012
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posted April 30, 2014 10:32 PM
The best thing to do in cases like that are to tune the person out. I have had to learn to do that on this forum. Surprisingly despite all the flak I have taken on this forum I have only exploded on another user 3 times the whole time I have been here. Which is amazing considering that I have Mars in Gemini in the 3rd and can really become acid tongued if someone pushes me.IP: Logged |
Violets Moderator Posts: 3439 From: Twin Peaks Registered: Apr 2011
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posted May 01, 2014 12:31 AM
quote: Originally posted by aquaguy91: Sometimes diplomacy and political correctness are not viable options and you need to go in guns blazing and tell the person they are a ******* .
Haha. Yeah, that's true. I've done it, and I've said things to people that have probably come back to hit me in the @ss, but it needed to be said. And when all was said and done, they got hit in the @ss as well. People do it to themselves. We all do it, it's just a matter of picking your poison sometimes. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 9284 From: tennessee Registered: Jan 2012
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posted May 01, 2014 12:39 AM
Since we are On the subject of venting I have something I want to vent about. LolIP: Logged |