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whitewitch111
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posted December 04, 2014 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for whitewitch111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So I recently found out that I am once again pregnant. Though, I am happy, I am terrified as well. How am I going to provide for the baby??? I don't have my BPD under control yet, and I don't want to pass it to my child. Plus my first pregnancy was a miscarriage and I worry about that too... :'(

Other then that, I don't know if its my BF's. I slept with another man, which I deeply regret. I've had a reading recently that it is my boyfriends, but I'm not so sure...

I'm scared...

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I'm so cappy
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posted December 04, 2014 07:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Advice: abortion.

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mercuranian
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posted December 04, 2014 07:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mercuranian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i'm sorry you are in this situation, but you really don't want my advice.

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Ami Anne
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posted December 04, 2014 08:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted December 04, 2014 11:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for florence     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by whitewitch111:
So I recently found out that I am once again pregnant. Though, I am happy, I am terrified as well. How am I going to provide for the baby??? I don't have my BPD under control yet, and I don't want to pass it to my child. Plus my first pregnancy was a miscarriage and I worry about that too... :'(

Other then that, I don't know if its my BF's. I slept with another man, which I deeply regret. I've had a reading recently that it is my boyfriends, but I'm not so sure...

I'm scared...


You need to separate out all the issues.

It's not a bad thing to be scared. When people become pregnant in ideal circumstances they don't have the immediate worry but they should have because no one is insulated from how life changing it is - they just forestall dealing with that in a thorough manner, of processing it. So, there's never going to be an ideal.

I imagine there's no way of preventing for certain passing bpd onto a child? So if you want a child that's a reality to weigh up but maybe finding out the odds will at least help you.

If your bpd isn't under control is there a way you can get it under control? Is it exacerbated by these worries - if so that's why to eliminate and sort through them and find someone to talk to if you can.

You will find a way to support your child if it's meant to be. For some people it is the making of them but there's definitely degrees of difficulty and you need to consider what you can handle. But, if you were planning to be pregnant could you deal with it before or did your emotional need override that? Can your emotional need still override that or is it the concern the baby isn't your partners? If so, that's the only issue to sort through.

I don't know how you can sort through that but I think you need to find a friend who knows you both and you can confide in. You don't want that hanging over you the duration of the pregnancy especially if it is making your bpd worse - there's only so much you can deal with and you need to make sure you are ok. There's the possibility that the bpd is actually inflaming how bad things seem. So try and eliminate peripheral worries and be methodical.


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KarkaQueen
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posted December 05, 2014 04:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Advice: abortion.


Gurl you so blunt.

TEAM #HOH

Nah.. I'm joking.. hmm

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posted December 05, 2014 04:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm really sorry you are going through all of that. My advice? You need to tell your boyfriend the truth and see what he has to say about all of this and then maybe ya'll can decide what you are going to do together. I don't know what else to tell you besides that but it's very important that you are honest with him. It wouldn't be fair for him to potentially raise a child that isn't even his when he doesn't even have a clue.

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Vajra
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posted December 05, 2014 06:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vajra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Ceridwen
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posted December 05, 2014 11:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cappy,

do you really think that was funny?

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Ceridwen
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posted December 05, 2014 11:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WW,

first of, congratulations.


But I would also second Aquaguy`s opinion. I think your boyfriend should know. so you can decide together how to deal with this.

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posted December 05, 2014 11:32 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As well as the other guy should know.

The longer you wait the worse it will be.

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I'm so cappy
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posted December 05, 2014 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Cappy,

do you really think that was funny?


I wasn't joking. Were YOU joking when you congratulated her? Whitewitch is a mess. And she'll be a worse mess due to hormonal changes. I don't think she could even take the meds she needs during pregnancy. Her relationship will most likely fall apart. She doesn't have money to support herself and a child. No kid deserves to be thrown into circumstances like these. Adoption is not a piece of cake either, for everyone involved. Abortion is legal in the USA so it's clear to me that it's the best option. We don't need another infanticide/suicide/whatever, don't you think?


Sorry OP but you have no reason to be happy. You'd have to be emotionally stable to realize it though...

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Ceridwen
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posted December 05, 2014 02:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wasn`t joking either.
To suggest abortion in this flippant way is disrespectful to everyone involved.

I was congratulating her cause I know how much she wants to have a child and I feel it is a blessing to give life and a wonderful thing (generally speaking of course). Apart from that I donīt know her in real life (do you? ), so how could I even dare to assume I know what her life would be, or how she would act?

(I do hope though that she has a stable relationship and supportive environment that could help her, cause yes, I agree int hat, that this is much needed).

So you are saying adoption is worse than abortion?
Interesting opinion. Everyone is entitled to theirs I suppose.

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Ami Anne
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posted December 05, 2014 02:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I agree with Ceri.

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florence
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posted December 05, 2014 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for florence     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
I wasn't joking. Were YOU joking when you congratulated her? Whitewitch is a mess. And she'll be a worse mess due to hormonal changes. I don't think she could even take the meds she needs during pregnancy. Her relationship will most likely fall apart. She doesn't have money to support herself and a child. No kid deserves to be thrown into circumstances like these. Adoption is not a piece of cake either, for everyone involved. Abortion is legal in the USA so it's clear to me that it's the best option. We don't need another infanticide/suicide/whatever, don't you think?


Sorry OP but you have no reason to be happy. You'd have to be emotionally stable to realize it though...


I think in Europe there's better care given to new and expectant mothers - particularly in Germany and France. I know in the UK there's a better nursery provision allowing someone to return to work and have good childcare - not just a babysitter but the kind people elect to use even if they don't need to. And also a needed workforce because of it. What a shame this isn't available in the US so mothers who might be left (in any circumstances) have to face a less difficult choice.

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PixieJane
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posted December 05, 2014 06:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ISC may not have been kind, but I do believe she spoke truth.

And I doubt any child of whitewitch would feel blessed (nor do I think would whitewitch when confronted by the reality and the responsibilities), at least if raised by her. Orphanages can present their own problems (and horror stories), as can adoption (some really sick people adopt) even in Europe (not that I'm stating abortion is preferred--despite global population--or that every life story of an orphanage and such is terrible, and even a hellish childhood can still produce a wonderful adult). Based on the vast majority of WW posts and this thread specifically, she is not ready to be a mother (especially if she doesn't come clean) and any child of hers will grow up to share her own stories of childhood pain on the internet as many here at LL do today. If being a parent required a license (as does marriage, driving, selling on the street corner, etc) and was based on concern for the child then based on what WW shares on LL I can't see how she could possible get that license.

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posted December 05, 2014 07:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Phew, finally someone rational. There's no room for emotionalism here if ruined lives are to be avoided. I hope WW will see the light. Some people shouldn't have children and it's only admirable to recognize it in yourself and own it.

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posted December 05, 2014 07:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for florence     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Op you are the only one who can make a decision. I echo Ceris congratulations but I hope you find the best way forward whatever it is.

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posted December 05, 2014 07:59 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Congratulations!! Although the circumstances weren't the greatest take a moment and grasp the fact that you created life and it's growing inside of you!!! Isn't it exciting!? Life and creating life is truly the greatest gift we as humans are given. I'm looking forward to when we try again

My advice would be to relax, the baby doesn't need it and you don't need it. Your life isn't ruined or over. There are so many different programs for women out there to help in these situations. You are not alone. Tell both guys involved and go from there.

Ultimately whatever you decide to do is in your hands, I would just hope that the easy route isn't the way you'd go. Take care. Relax, make sure you eat for one not two and drink plenty of water.

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posted December 05, 2014 09:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Phew, finally someone rational. There's no room for emotionalism here if ruined lives are to be avoided. I hope WW will see the light. Some people shouldn't have children and it's only admirable to recognize it in yourself and own it.


What you say it's the truth though,
it's looking at the bare facts and talking no filter..

ah.. the hypocritical, austure capricornian nature

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Ami Anne
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posted December 05, 2014 09:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
Congratulations!! Although the circumstances weren't the greatest take a moment and grasp the fact that you created life and it's growing inside of you!!! Isn't it exciting!? Life and creating life is truly the greatest gift we as humans are given. I'm looking forward to when we try again

My advice would be to relax, the baby doesn't need it and you don't need it. Your life isn't ruined or over. There are so many different programs for women out there to help in these situations. You are not alone. Tell both guys involved and go from there.

Ultimately whatever you decide to do is in your hands, I would just hope that the easy route isn't the way you'd go. Take care. Relax, make sure you eat for one not two and drink plenty of water.


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KarkaQueen
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posted December 05, 2014 09:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Phew, finally someone rational. There's no room for emotionalism here if ruined lives are to be avoided. I hope WW will see the light. Some people shouldn't have children and it's only admirable to recognize it in yourself and own it.


What you say it's the truth though,
it's looking at the bare facts and talking no filter..

ah.. the hypocritical, austure capricornian nature

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posted December 05, 2014 10:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BellaFenice     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
What you say it's the truth though,
it's looking at the bare facts and talking no filter..

ah.. the hypocritical, austure capricornian nature


Yes, a little blunt perhaps, but completely honest.

Whitewitch, I have read some of your posts over the few months, and they are quite concerning. However, none of us are doctors and can determine whether your BPD will be manageable for pregnancy. Also, are you allowed to take your medication during pregnancy? If not, that is 9 months without medication which can be very dangerous. I also don't really know the context here: were you planning intentionally with your boyfriend to get pregnant? This is definitely something to think about, especially in light of cheating on him. If you were, can you imagine how crushed he would be if the child does not turn out to be his?

That being said you need to discuss the situation with the following people:

1) Your doctor/physician
2) Your psychologist/psychiatrist
3) Your boyfriend
4) The guy you cheated with

The hardest choice is always the right one to make. I think you already know the answer to this deep down, but can't emotionally arrive to it. There is no easy way out (or choices), but you have to think about the child now, and sometimes adoption or terminating the pregnancy will save lives. Always exercise your right for choice, you have a lot of options here.

P.S Karka- I responded to you in H&H, thanks for the love.

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posted December 06, 2014 01:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Comatoes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is no free will in pregnancy or bringing a life into the World, either it will happen or it won't. Whatever is White Witch's decision it is meant to be. If a soul is suppose to be born, it will, beyond all odds. If it's not meant to be it won't happen. Humans think they make all the choices but we are all divinely pushed into the direction that is the correct one. These are my views.

Whatever you choose I hope you will take care of yourself in the future. Always remember the Universe wants you to succeed -- not to cause pain only experiences, you do have your ancestors looking out for you even if you don't believe in this stuff, we all are connected in one form or another.

If the little soul is born because the Universe says so, you should do all you can to make its life beautiful and secure. That is a parent's job, children need so much from adults, but adults fall short in so many ways. Use astrology and natural healing and herbs to heal your soul and body. There is natural methods for depression, mental conditions etc. There is always a way out for most things in life if you try.

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posted December 06, 2014 02:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It`s neither the truth nor rational (of neither of us), just different opinions.


If my parents had listened to "rational" and "reasonable" people, my brother would never have been born. And in fact in the early years they even had to explain or apologize for why they were daring to bring that child into this world.

I can tell you we are all happy they did. My brother is very precious to all of us (and yes of course it is demanding a lot of caring from all of us).


Having said that, my parents were lucky to have each others back at all times.

Though I know the circumstances are probably different ones, abortion is nothing to be toyed around with or taken lightly (neither is having a child of course).

It needs very very thorough examination, something that clearly can`t be done on some internet forum.

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