posted May 27, 2015 11:08 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Bella and Faith,
My problem is not just with women, it's with the whole society/culture. I could talk about this all night but I would just be wasting my breath. Things are messed up and anybody who says anything is ridiculed. Unfortunately, most people are asleep at the wheel and don't realize how messed up things are. It's pretty bad when even the pope is promoting all the lies that are destroying the nuclear family in western societies. It's become clear that all of this stuff is socially engineered. Those in power are trying to divide people and make them hate each other.

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posted May 27, 2015 11:26 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
I used to get irritated or angry when I was called a misogynist but now I wear that title with a badge of pride. Why? Because words like that are used to shame people that are speaking out about a messed up society.
The people that call me this are either evil people that have an invested interest in maintaining the status quo or people that are brainwashed and can't see what's going on.
I just know I see a messed up society. I meet so many women younger than me that are already bitter single mothers that hate men and I meet so many men that are bitter towards women. There's so much bitterness and hatred its ridiculous.Where does all of this stem from? Feminism! If you are a feminist or support it you are only making the problem worse. But I'm a misogynist for speaking out about this stuff and wanting to see an end to it.

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posted May 27, 2015 11:29 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
I used to get irritated or angry when I was called a misogynist but now I wear that title with a badge of pride. Why? Because words like that are used to shame people that are speaking out about a messed up society.
The people that call me this are either evil people that have an invested interest in maintaining the status quo or people that are brainwashed and can't see what's going on.
I just know I see a messed up society. I meet so many women younger than me that are already bitter single mothers that hate men and I meet so many men that are bitter towards women. There's so much bitterness and hatred its ridiculous.Where does all of this stem from? Feminism! If you are a feminist or support it you are only making the problem worse. But I'm a misogynist for speaking out about this stuff and wanting to see an end to it.

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This is THE most brilliant thing you have ever, ever, ever said on here, AG!

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posted May 27, 2015 11:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Everyone has their hard places in life, unless it is just me

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posted May 27, 2015 11:59 PM            

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Originally posted by mercuranian:

i can't help but think if you were lucky with the ladies, you'd be singing a different tune.

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posted May 28, 2015 12:20 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I am sure EVERYONE on this thread has some issue which dogs them. Mine is my mother. AG has his. The only difference with him and some of you on here( not everyone) is that HE is brave enough to talk about it while you hide and judge him

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Alright, so then who are the cowards? Just because people don't talk about their issues on LL is not a sign of cowardice. Not everyone wants to talk about their issues on the Internet. And there is huge difference between constructively talking about your concerns and complaining about them.

And the fact you are promoting being labeled a misogynist as the "most brilliant thing" AG has ever said is the most low-key shadiest insult ever. Being labeled a misogynist is nothing to be proud of. Ok, lets promote sexism and be proud of our biases, what a great idea for society!

@AG, but if society/culture is the problem, why is the focus on the women? You never address the ways in which men contribute to the culture. The issues we have with gender relations as a whole are due to both sexes. I would really like to know why you joined MGTOW.

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Originally posted by mercuranian:
yes we do. the difference is some of us try to get to the root of our issues and transcend them. we don't endlessly blame others for our own issues and beat a dead horse.
#introspection

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posted May 28, 2015 01:27 AM            

Alternately, if you and your significant other (or spouse, whatever) were the opposite gender?

I know it's hard because there are so many butterfly effects involved. Trying to imagine my 16th year as a boy (which was something of a lynchpin year for me) just seems impossible, especially as I know so many other things would've been different even leading up to that which could have totally thrown my life in another direction before I even came close to that. But it's a concept that intrigues me.

If my mom had been a man and my dad a woman I don't think they'd have married at all. And I think my mom's astrological energy would've manifested in a very different way because she'd have been spared a major life shaping moment had she been male.

It seems that had my older cousin and I been of switched genders that our relationship would've been radically different...it's weird to think of him (as a her) keeping me out of trouble instead of leading me into it but that's probable. I expect we'd still have issues of authority, though that would've been different. And I wonder if it would've been me who shot her first with an airgun pellet instead of the other way around and if so if she'd have grabbed the other pellet gun and shot back just as I had done...my cousin would still have all the Aries energy with Pisces moon so the impulsivity would be there and also that psychic flash so my cousin would probably still "win" as happened last time and probably got a whipping for it anyway, though I'd get a session with the belt as well for having started it.

I like to think we'd still be close but I'm not sure we would be since I'd probably respect my cousin's space less (and my cousin would value it even more) and I'd have been meaner than I was--cousin would still have the Cancer moon and Pisces moon after all which I didn't understand at the time, nor would I've cared at that age--and of course my cousin at least would have very different friends coming over who were girls instead of boys who saw me as a boy brat rather than a girl to tolerate.

And my cousin and his friends liked to mess with me like trying to gross me out, but I strongly doubt my cousin as a female (especially if her friends were around) would've told me to watch as she "sucked out the brains of a (boiled) crawdad" and if she did then I--as a boy--probably would've loved it and done it myself next.

posted May 28, 2015 06:59 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by BellaFenice:
[b] LOL, I see what you did there, Faith. It works both ways AG, it is not just a woman's fault as usual. I find it somewhat sexist that you have chosen to focus on a woman's appearance as her ultimate deciding factor on being worthy of marriage. It is also sexist to imply because a woman god forbid hits 30, is all of sudden worthless because her appearance "declines."

I think it is extremely shallow to say someone isn't an attractive marriage prospect because they OH NO get a wrinkle or two.

I actually know plenty of women in their 30s, 40s, and 50s who are aging beautifully in appearance and character. But I also know plenty of these women who are dating men their own ages without a problem, which is supported by the research.

The problem with your discourse is also that you are ignoring the fact some men in their 50s, 60s see young woman as a 'reward.' They deserve to have someone young and sexy, and act like borderline ebophiles towards 18-year-olds. Again, both genders engage in negative and positive dating rituals.

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posted May 28, 2015 07:03 AM            

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Originally posted by BellaFenice:
Me too. I have to be honest AG, I really have never understood why you have such a negative perception of women. I don't know, I just don't see the value and benefit of your discourse; how is it going to help you and society? Why did you join MGTOW?

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Can I be frank? Who cares? Let the men who don't like women be MGTOW. The probably with these men is that they're NOT going their own way. If they WERE, they'd be focussed on male-oriented things and activities. They'd fo us on themselves and their cfriends like a normal single person does. The problem wkth MGTOWs is that they never shut up about women! They'd be a lot more convincing if their every single thought didn't revolve around women!!!

posted May 28, 2015 07:06 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
I used to get irritated or angry when I was called a misogynist but now I wear that title with a badge of pride. Why? Because words like that are used to shame people that are speaking out about a messed up society.
The people that call me this are either evil people that have an invested interest in maintaining the status quo or people that are brainwashed and can't see what's going on.
I just know I see a messed up society. I meet so many women younger than me that are already bitter single mothers that hate men and I meet so many men that are bitter towards women. There's so much bitterness and hatred its ridiculous.Where does all of this stem from? Feminism! If you are a feminist or support it you are only making the problem worse. But I'm a misogynist for speaking out about this stuff and wanting to see an end to it.

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posted May 28, 2015 07:44 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Alot of guys disgust me too but I may seem as though I'm picking on women because I'm particularly interested in them because I'm a heterosexual man.

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Oh that makes perfect sense. Women disgust you but you are sexually interested in them so you focus on them more.

Just like women might be disgusted by men ("bad boys"...corniest phrase ever) but because they are sexually interested in them, they pay attention to them.

posted May 28, 2015 07:54 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Oh that makes perfect sense. Women disgust you but you are sexually interested in them so you focus on them more.

Just like women might be disgusted by men ("bad boys"...corniest phrase ever) but because they are sexually interested in them, they pay attention to them.

But YOU, of course, are always taking the much higher road.

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posted May 28, 2015 08:07 AM            

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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:

Can I be frank? Who cares? Let the men who don't like women be MGTOW. The probably with these men is that they're NOT going their own way. If they WERE, they'd be focussed on male-oriented things and activities. They'd fo us on themselves and their cfriends like a normal single person does. The problem wkth MGTOWs is that they never shut up about women! They'd be a lot more convincing if their every single thought didn't revolve around women!!!

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posted May 28, 2015 08:08 AM            

YOU should, too! It would solve a lot of problems around here in our simple neighborhood

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posted May 28, 2015 08:32 AM            

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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:

Could you please cite your sources?.

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posted May 28, 2015 08:50 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
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Can I be frank? Who cares? Let the men who don't like women be MGTOW. The probably with these men is that they're NOT going their own way. If they WERE, they'd be focussed on male-oriented things and activities. They'd fo us on themselves and their cfriends like a normal single person does. The problem wkth MGTOWs is that they never shut up about women! They'd be a lot more convincing if their every single thought didn't revolve around women!!!

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Aquaguy, I don't hate you. I wouldn't be friends with you on Facebook if that were the case. What is hateful, pointing out that you're pulling factually inaccurate $hit out of your a**? I think you're extremely whiny, self-pitying, and inconsiderate. It's like you really don't care that the people who come here may not want to see Sweet Peas have every thread turn into the aquaguy show and his various problems with women. How can you expect to have a relationship when you are so self-involved and oblivious to the feelings of others? Relationships are about TWO people and you think the universe revolves around you. And frankly, I think you should leave Lindaland. I don't know what you are doing here if you think all women are the same and incompatibility or differing needs has nothing to do with why a relationship might fail. Why not just stick to your "men going their own way" sites if all you want to do is whine about women all day long?

posted May 28, 2015 08:52 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
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Could you please cite your sources?.

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posted May 28, 2015 09:11 AM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
Here's something that might get the thread back on track: what if not only you another gender, but also your siblings and/or parents? Same astrological signs but different gender.

Alternately, if you and your significant other (or spouse, whatever) were the opposite gender?

I know it's hard because there are so many butterfly effects involved. Trying to imagine my 16th year as a boy (which was something of a lynchpin year for me) just seems impossible, especially as I know so many other things would've been different even leading up to that which could have totally thrown my life in another direction before I even came close to that. But it's a concept that intrigues me.

If my mom had been a man and my dad a woman I don't think they'd have married at all. And I think my mom's astrological energy would've manifested in a very different way because she'd have been spared a major life shaping moment had she been male.

It seems that had my older cousin and I been of switched genders that our relationship would've been radically different...it's weird to think of him (as a her) keeping me out of trouble instead of leading me into it but that's probable. I expect we'd still have issues of authority, though that would've been different. And I wonder if it would've been me who shot her first with an airgun pellet instead of the other way around and if so if she'd have grabbed the other pellet gun and shot back just as I had done...my cousin would still have all the Aries energy with Pisces moon so the impulsivity would be there and also that psychic flash so my cousin would probably still "win" as happened last time and probably got a whipping for it anyway, though I'd get a session with the belt as well for having started it.

I like to think we'd still be close but I'm not sure we would be since I'd probably respect my cousin's space less (and my cousin would value it even more) and I'd have been meaner than I was--cousin would still have the Cancer moon and Pisces moon after all which I didn't understand at the time, nor would I've cared at that age--and of course my cousin at least would have very different friends coming over who were girls instead of boys who saw me as a boy brat rather than a girl to tolerate.

And my cousin and his friends liked to mess with me like trying to gross me out, but I strongly doubt my cousin as a female (especially if her friends were around) would've told me to watch as she "sucked out the brains of a (boiled) crawdad" and if she did then I--as a boy--probably would've loved it and done it myself next.

It's hard to imagine.

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posted May 28, 2015 09:11 AM            

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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by aquaguy91:
[b] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
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Can I be frank? Who cares? Let the men who don't like women be MGTOW. The probably with these men is that they're NOT going their own way. If they WERE, they'd be focussed on male-oriented things and activities. They'd fo us on themselves and their cfriends like a normal single person does. The problem wkth MGTOWs is that they never shut up about women! They'd be a lot more convincing if their every single thought didn't revolve around women!!!

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Aquaguy, I don't hate you. I wouldn't be friends with you on Facebook if that were the case. What is hateful, pointing out that you're pulling factually inaccurate $hit out of your a**? I think you're extremely whiny, self-pitying, and inconsiderate. It's like you really don't care that the people who come here may not want to see Sweet Peas have every thread turn into the aquaguy show and his various problems with women. How can you expect to have a relationship when you are so self-involved and oblivious to the feelings of others? Relationships are about TWO people and you think the universe revolves around you. And frankly, I think you should leave Lindaland. I don't know what you are doing here if you think all women are the same and incompatibility or differing needs has nothing to do with why a relationship might fail. Why not just stick to your "men going their own way" sites if all you want to do is whine about women all day long?

posted May 28, 2015 09:16 AM            

It's true that there are many f-ed up things in this world. But the male/female issues you bring up, wouldn't make my "top 10" list.

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