posted May 19, 2015 09:18 PM            

I was playing in a virtual world once (bit crap it was really) and have been known to joke around a bit so created a male avatar and went round pretending I was a guy in real life, flirting with/teasing women in a non-offensive way and just being silly. My (female) friend who also played the game was in on the joke and thought it was hilarious.

Weirdly I found some women latch on to me even though they were giving me verbal insults.. like they thought I was entertaining so kept coming back for more.

So I guess I'd just be the joker guy who sometimes gets the girl, but not often!

What would you be?

posted May 19, 2015 09:38 PM            

I guess certain types of women compete with each other too (eg the shallow, "real housewives" types), in terms of looks, wealth, fertility, but I'd say I'm probably glad I'm a woman (although I do have certain "masculine" qualities which makes me who I am, eg I can be one of the boys if I feel like it).

What my little exercise in gender swapping (albeit in the virtual world) taught me however is there are some pretty screwed up women out there with fussily high standards and no sense of humor! I can imagine finding a suitable partner can be as difficult for guys as it is for women.

PS - I will check out that book Aquaguy. Thanks.

posted May 19, 2015 11:33 PM            

Even if I were to become fully and truly male through some cutting edge (and so far impossible) method I couldn't truly know the male experience as I'd have still been raised female. And with that in mind...

Being raised male (STRAIGHT version) I would've been treated differently from most people and therefore I'd be different for that reason alone (that is had I been treated that way as a female I'd be different today as well). In some ways I'd have it better as the outgoing and athletic aspects would've been much better tolerated. I'd have never been ostracized from the girls as a small child because I'd have started out with the boys and having played with toy guns and the like since before I could recall I would've fit in even better with them than I did as a girl. I'd have gotten into more fights but that would be okay and expected (at least in Texas).

Where things would become a lot worse is when I entered middle school. For better and worse male acting out is considered more threatening (girls are usually dismissed, more concerned with her sexual habits than any piffling anger she has) and I'd have been even more likely to be put in that mercenary mental hospital where I may have failed to prevent a sexual assault against me (I'd hope that wouldn't turn me homophobic but if it did I'd think the runaways I mixed with might've corrected that) and the school would want me on Ritalin and other such drugs a lot more.

OTOH, no **** rumors. If I had a rep for promiscuity (which is possible, and possibly justified) then I'd be congratulated rather than treated as I was.

The dynamics between me and my older cousin would've been different. He was hard on me but he'd probably have been even harder if I were a guy (though I think we'd still love each other, not that we'd say it). I'd have had less protection but I'd also have less need of it.

It's entirely plausible that in the divorce I'd have chosen to live with Dad (it was a close one even as it was) and Dad would've gladly handed me back to Granny (in retrospect I want to slap myself for not thinking of this brilliant plan back then as it could've still happened with me as a girl, but as it was I was skeeved by his openly having a sexual relationship with a legal teenager, which as a guy I probably wouldn't have minded) and if so then my entire life would be different (would've been if I were a girl, too, just not as much), including my not being here on LL (in all likelihood because I wouldn't have been exposed to astrology).

But if I ended up as a runaway anyway then I couldn't have done the same as a girl because I'd be seen as more threatening (even as a kid) and thus my role would change (I'd still have to deal with perverts who came after all of us). Maybe that would've led me to being in and out of the prison cycle...or maybe I'd have come out of it okay. In this case I wouldn't have had a cop stalking me (for illegal purposes) to chase me back home, and my street name would be a lot more anonymous (it would probably have been the same and plenty of guys had it, it turned out to be a problem when I was the only girl who had it as that cop was looking for me--don't ask, I don't feel like talking about it).

What happened to me at 16 (especially the latter part) just would not have happened to me if I'd have been male so that's a wild card year.

In any case, as an adult I think I'd be popular among guys and women (though not having a lot of money would probably limit me somewhat, but not so that I'd notice) both but even if I were promiscuous I'd find most women dull and need one with a fiery spirit and quick mind to keep my interest (heh, I'd probably have a "hot and bold librarian" kink ). If I were more sexual then polyamory is a real possibility, especially as many women who embrace polyamory tend to be more interesting (as they usually challenge the status quo in multiple ways, not just that one, and that usually means an active mind as well as lack of timidity that I'd no doubt find attractive and exciting).

Even so, there's still a lot of unknowns because I wouldn't have really been eligible for many of the roles I've made money in...but I could work in some sort of sports shop, that probably would be acceptable.

Now as a GAY male...

posted May 19, 2015 11:52 PM            

I won't forget when Peter Pan came to my house, took my hand
I said I was a boy; I'm glad he didn't check.
I learned to fly, I learned to fight
I lived a whole life in one night
We saved each other's lives out on the pirate's deck.

And I remember that night
When I'm leaving a late night with some friends
And I hear somebody tell me it's not safe,
someone should help me
I need to find a nice man to walk me home.

When I was a boy, I scared the pants off of my mom,
Climbed what I could climb upon
And I don't know how I survived,
I guess I knew the tricks that all boys knew.

And you can walk me home, but I was a boy, too.

I was a kid that you would like, just a small boy on her bike
Riding topless, yeah, I never cared who saw.
My neighbor come outside to say, "Get your shirt,"
I said "No way, it's the last time I'm not breaking any law."

And now I'm in this clothing store, and the signs say less is more
More that's tight means more to see, more for them, not more for me
That can't help me climb a tree in ten seconds flat

When I was a boy, See that picture? That was me
Grass-stained shirt and dusty knees
And I know things have gotta change,
They got pills to sell, they've got implants to put in,
they've got implants to remove

But I am not forgetting...that I was a boy too

And like the woods where I would creep, it's a secret I can keep
Except when I'm tired, 'cept when I'm being caught off guard
And I've had a lonesome awful day, the conversation finds its way
To catching fire-flies out in the backyard.

And so I tell the man I'm with about the other life I lived
And I say, "Now you're top gun, I have lost and you have won"

posted May 20, 2015 01:47 PM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
Here's a song I love that's relevant, and if you're a girl at least prepare to go "aww":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h00VIlqAl_E

I won't forget when Peter Pan came to my house, took my hand
I said I was a boy; I'm glad he didn't check.
I learned to fly, I learned to fight
I lived a whole life in one night
We saved each other's lives out on the pirate's deck.

And I remember that night
When I'm leaving a late night with some friends
And I hear somebody tell me it's not safe,
someone should help me
I need to find a nice man to walk me home.

When I was a boy, I scared the pants off of my mom,
Climbed what I could climb upon
And I don't know how I survived,
I guess I knew the tricks that all boys knew.

And you can walk me home, but I was a boy, too.

I was a kid that you would like, just a small boy on her bike
Riding topless, yeah, I never cared who saw.
My neighbor come outside to say, "Get your shirt,"
I said "No way, it's the last time I'm not breaking any law."

And now I'm in this clothing store, and the signs say less is more
More that's tight means more to see, more for them, not more for me
That can't help me climb a tree in ten seconds flat

When I was a boy, See that picture? That was me
Grass-stained shirt and dusty knees
And I know things have gotta change,
They got pills to sell, they've got implants to put in,
they've got implants to remove

But I am not forgetting...that I was a boy too

And like the woods where I would creep, it's a secret I can keep
Except when I'm tired, 'cept when I'm being caught off guard
And I've had a lonesome awful day, the conversation finds its way
To catching fire-flies out in the backyard.

And so I tell the man I'm with about the other life I lived
And I say, "Now you're top gun, I have lost and you have won"

And he says, "Oh no, no, can't you see
When I was a girl, my mom and I we always talked
And I picked flowers everywhere that I walked.
And I could always cry, now even when I'm alone I seldom do
And I have lost some kindness
But I was a girl too.
And you were just like me, and I was just like you"

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posted May 20, 2015 02:15 PM            

No.

Anyway, if I were born male, my life would have been very different. My parents and extended family would have treated me very very very differently. And because of that, I would probably have loved them and trusted their teachings and turned into a greedy, money hungry a-hole.

posted May 26, 2015 10:10 PM            

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posted May 26, 2015 10:21 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I have always felt very comfortable being female and sometimes thought about why, when other people struggle with this. When I found Astrology, I got my answer in the Cancer Moon. I love being female. I loved being pregnant. I loved being a mother. I love cooking etc but I have a very masculine mind lol

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posted May 27, 2015 02:53 AM            

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Originally posted by Padre35:

A female version of me would hate me

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posted May 27, 2015 07:31 AM            

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posted May 27, 2015 09:53 AM            

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Originally posted by Jo B:
Yeah I can imagine it's difficult being a man, not only do you have to deal with the oppposite gender but you are probably more competitive with your own sex.

I guess certain types of women compete with each other too (eg the shallow, "real housewives" types), in terms of looks, wealth, fertility, but I'd say I'm probably glad I'm a woman (although I do have certain "masculine" qualities which makes me who I am, eg I can be one of the boys if I feel like it).

What my little exercise in gender swapping (albeit in the virtual world) taught me however is there are some pretty screwed up women out there with fussily high standards and no sense of humor! I can imagine finding a suitable partner can be as difficult for guys as it is for women.

PS - I will check out that book Aquaguy. Thanks.

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posted May 27, 2015 09:56 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
I see Ami.
But I still say this society is messed up and encourages people to try and be something they aren't.

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I am not saying I am that good about everything because I am not. I have, always, just loved being female

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posted May 27, 2015 10:32 AM            

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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:

I think if you're glad to be a woman you must be a young woman, then. Because studies show that women are happier in their 20's but men are happier at the end of their lives.

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posted May 27, 2015 11:34 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
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I think if you're glad to be a woman you must be a young woman, then. Because studies show that women are happier in their 20's but men are happier at the end of their lives.

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posted May 27, 2015 12:11 PM            

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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:

You don't have to tell me that it's because women's sole value by society is derived from their looks and they're treated very nicely (when not being raped or sexually harassed that is) in their youth and then basically ignored, discarded (whatever their contributions), often cheated on and abandoned by their husbands, etc. later in life when they are no longer conventionally pretty. I believe that is where you and feminists would tend to agree .
Women are also more likely to spend their final years in poverty. Never-married women fare better than divorcees in that sense, while widows fare best. I think all of these things are factors.

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posted May 27, 2015 12:13 PM            

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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:

You don't have to tell me that it's because women's sole value by society is derived from their looks and they're treated very nicely (when not being raped or sexually harassed that is) in their youth and then basically ignored, discarded (whatever their contributions), often cheated on and abandoned by their husbands, etc. later in life when they are no longer conventionally pretty. I believe that is where you and feminists would tend to agree .
Women are also more likely to spend their final years in poverty. Never-married women fare better than divorcees in that sense, while widows fare best. I think all of these things are factors.

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^^ True.

posted May 27, 2015 12:18 PM            

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posted May 27, 2015 02:58 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
No,
I was going to say that women today spend their 20s hooking up with bad boys thinking that they will have the option to get married and settle down in their 30s. Unfortunately alot of these women enter their 30s with illegitimate children from said bad boys,tons of baggage,and yes... Declining looks. So alot of these women simply aren't attractive marriage prospects anymore.
At this same time the decent men that they ignored in their 20s and want to marry now are hitting their stride and their sexual market value is growing and they are able to attract young and hot women. And this makes 30,40,and 50 something women angry and bitter. They can't handle seeing men actually having options and power in the dating game. I know you'll deny it but I see it on a daily basis. These old single women are constantly trashing men their age and calling them immature because they date younger women. The funny thing is it wasn't a problem when they were younger and dating older guys.

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