posted May 25, 2015 07:44 AM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
I don't need TV and adverts to tell me what's right or wrong. Your opinions - the two of three or you - are no more important than the rest of ours. You aren't omnipotent - you don't see all, and know all.

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I don't think I made this assertion?

What said is that I see people all around who appear to be products of the media they consume. I meant in society, not LL.

If someone can engage in the media and remain uninfluenced by it, then they are stronger than I am.

That is what I said, Teasel.

posted May 25, 2015 07:49 AM            

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Originally posted by mercuranian:
uhhhhm wrong!! i know from PERSONAL EXPERIENCE!

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Mercuranian,

I'm unsure what is going on recently, but I am seeing a slew of invalidation toward personal experience, when it requires a revision of a strongly-held perception.

It happened to me on here recently.

And I'm seeing it happen in RL.

Some beliefs can be so rigid. I suspect individuals are over-identifying with their perceptions, as they form a persona that they deem to be valuable, and garners them the type of response they wish from the environment.

However, whether their perception is rooted in truth and reality will depend on how willing they are to let it grow and encompass ALL experience.

posted May 25, 2015 08:15 AM            

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posted May 25, 2015 02:22 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
VERY few people are independent thinkers. If the media throw people an issue, they grab it. It is really hopeless lol

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posted May 25, 2015 08:26 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
VERY few people are independent thinkers. If the media throw people an issue, they grab it. It is really hopeless lol

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Umm, as I recall you provided a biased news source in Astro 2.0 implying the recent plane crash in the Alps was due to Islam and was quite bigoted.

Not to mention you did not bother to read the note at the bottom of the article retracting their original statements. I'd say that is not very independent of you. You literally grabbed what they wrote instead of critically thinking about the manipulative message behind it.

posted May 25, 2015 08:27 PM            

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Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:
Mercuranian,

I'm unsure what is going on recently, but I am seeing a slew of invalidation toward personal experience, when it requires a revision of a strongly-held perception.

It happened to me on here recently.

And I'm seeing it happen in RL.

Some beliefs can be so rigid. I suspect individuals are over-identifying with their perceptions, as they form a persona that they deem to be valuable, and garners them the type of response they wish from the environment.

However, whether their perception is rooted in truth and reality will depend on how willing they are to let it grow and encompass ALL experience.

I guess this isn't an easy thing to do.

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posted May 25, 2015 08:30 PM            

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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
Two weeks ago, a man approached me and struck up a conversation with me on a subway platform. Being the polite person that I am and it also being the Canadian way, I smiled and said a few words, then went back to reading what I had been when he approached me. When he asked me my name, I told him, said it was nice meeting him, wished him a good night, and went back to reading. But he would not take a hint. He proceeded to sit directly beside me on the train. I told him I was trying to get some reading done - curt, but obvious, I think - and that I was going to go back to it. He ignored me and continued talking to me. He asked me for contact information. I declined and said I had a boyfriend. He proceeded to rub my back before moving to another chair where he tried to continue the conversation (which was asking personal questions that were, frankly, none of his business). At this point I had to get off the train and wait for the next one. This was after 12 o'clock at night.

I reserve the right to call men who violate boundaries and make me uncomfortable [b]creepy, and your nieces do, too. Aquaguy, you're just going to have to get over it. Some males are creepy and that's the nicest designation they deserve .[/B]

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posted May 25, 2015 08:56 PM            

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Originally posted by BellaFenice:
Yeah, me too. It is frustrating but never let them feel as though they are important enough to invalidate your experiences.

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posted May 26, 2015 11:25 AM            

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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
Two weeks ago, a man approached me and struck up a conversation with me on a subway platform. Being the polite person that I am and it also being the Canadian way, I smiled and said a few words, then went back to reading what I had been when he approached me. When he asked me my name, I told him, said it was nice meeting him, wished him a good night, and went back to reading. But he would not take a hint. He proceeded to sit directly beside me on the train. I told him I was trying to get some reading done - curt, but obvious, I think - and that I was going to go back to it. He ignored me and continued talking to me. He asked me for contact information. I declined and said I had a boyfriend. He proceeded to rub my back before moving to another chair where he tried to continue the conversation (which was asking personal questions that were, frankly, none of his business). At this point I had to get off the train and wait for the next one. This was after 12 o'clock at night.

I reserve the right to call men who violate boundaries and make me uncomfortable [b]creepy, and your nieces do, too. Aquaguy, you're just going to have to get over it. Some males are creepy and that's the nicest designation they deserve .[/B]

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posted May 28, 2015 12:13 AM            

my face was so swollen i looked like the elephant man, and the police still treated me with a dismissive and accusatory attitude. i don't know what kind of more proof did they need to know i was not lying.

Maybe I missed your response (to this), but if the police did not provide

an ambulance/medical attention, then you may very well have a

valid lawsuit on your hands... or have you already spoken to a

lawyer regarding their dismissal of your obvious injuries?

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posted May 28, 2015 12:37 AM            

Oh my...

I'll continue to post for my convenience; not yours.

If you don't like it, stop responding to my posts.

As for the rest, idk who you're talking to, exactly, in your

imaginary argument.

I didn't say '... other countries had it worse.'

I cited countries that had a rape-friendly culture, both

legally and culturally.

Or this, that you seem to be attributing to me:

'... you have to meet a certain pain threshold.'

I've not said or even alluded to anything of the sort.

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From your article:

'... the whole female population is held in a subordinate

position to the whole male population, even though many men

don’t rape'

But most do?

This seems to be the line you're toeing, and it borders

on misandry, whether you realize it or not.

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Originally posted by BellaFenice:
But wold you believe someone who shouted FHRTP in a cafeteria respects women?

But would you believe a woman in a low-cut, spandex dress

wasn't looking for trouble?

Same logic-- your hypocrisy is noted.

And no, that would not be evidence of rape-- only that he's

an a****le-- which is not illegal.

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posted May 28, 2015 07:51 AM            

If you don't like it, stop responding to my posts.

Let's have a little, wittle, bittle of the Amen Chorus

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posted May 28, 2015 07:54 AM            

Listen Up and Get a Good Start to Your Day

PS What is a Forum Without Music???.................................Boring

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posted May 28, 2015 11:52 AM            

PS What is a Forum Without Music???.................................Boring

Ikr?

Nice

This one is a leeeetle different, Ami Anne.. and it's one of my favorites.

Just lovely, the way it slowly registers ith everyone!

Ode an die Freude Beethoven Symphony No.9

(Ode to Joy!)

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posted May 28, 2015 12:00 PM            

I will listen!

I love all music from rap to opera

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posted May 28, 2015 02:23 PM            

Ami,
when you and "Eirlys" talk to each other, it's as if you are talking to yourself.

posted May 28, 2015 03:52 PM            

Ami,
when you and "Eirlys" talk to each other, it's as if you are talking to yourself.

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My family will be delighted to hear I got a Masters degree, overnight.

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posted May 28, 2015 05:52 PM            

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7hwvWIK1eM

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posted May 28, 2015 10:18 PM            

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Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:
Sorry this isn't about Taylor Swift, but I'm struggling to overlook this.

Ami,
when you and "Eirlys" talk to each other, it's as if you are talking to yourself.

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You are not the only one who thinks that. If you check back on old threads you will start to notice an interesting pattern.

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

[b]I'll continue to post for my convenience; not yours.

If you don't like it, stop responding to my posts.

Let's have a little, wittle, bittle of the Amen Chorus [/B]

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Then do the same for me and stop derailing my threads on purpose like a 5-year-old.

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
How did you get so cool, E?

You would be surprised the number of people who leave LL from the bullying.

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posted May 28, 2015 10:25 PM            

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Originally posted by Eirlys:
Originally posted by BellaFenice:
[b]Eirlys, respond to me in normal paragraphs, it makes reading your responses way better. The Return key does not have to be your best friend.

Oh my...

I'll continue to post for my convenience; not yours.

If you don't like it, stop responding to my posts.

As for the rest, idk who you're talking to, exactly, in your

imaginary argument.

I didn't say '... other countries had it worse.'

I cited countries that had a rape-friendly culture, both

legally and culturally.

Or this, that you seem to be attributing to me:

'... you have to meet a certain pain threshold.'

I've not said or even alluded to anything of the sort.

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From your article:

'... the whole female population is held in a subordinate

position to the whole male population, even though many men

don’t rape'

But most do?

This seems to be the line you're toeing, and it borders

on misandry, whether you realize it or not.

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Originally posted by BellaFenice:
But wold you believe someone who shouted FHRTP in a cafeteria respects women?

But would you believe a woman in a low-cut, spandex dress

wasn't looking for trouble?

Same logic-- your hypocrisy is noted.

And no, that would not be evidence of rape-- only that he's

an a****le-- which is not illegal.[/B]

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For one, people tend to get annoyed when you write paragraphs in that way, it gets distracting.

Number two, considering another mod writes like that pretty frequently, and the fact you constantly post on her threads and agree with everything she says makes it very suspect. Even the grammar and sentence structure is a bit too close...

Because the way a woman dresses should reflect the amount of respect she deserves? That is unbelievably sexist.The way someone dresses is not reflective of their value. And shouting a sexist comment after being accused of rape is not equivalent. How does that make me a hypocrite-where did I contradict myself? Your argument makes no sense. You claimed the US isn't a rape culture by shaming the experiences people cited in the thread- how is that not a problem? It was insensitive and false. I responded and gave you examples of how your assumption was wrong.

The other thing is that your second argument again makes no sense, most men do not rape, but the majority of people who do rape are men. That is a true statement again, which is what the article said. Nowhere did the article bash men and make misandry commentary. The person who shouted FHRIP was the same person accused of rape, I think that is more than enough evidence to show he is not respectful. Anyone who respects women would not say something like that as a joke.

posted May 28, 2015 10:41 PM            

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posted May 28, 2015 10:42 PM            

Please add me to your list, Pweety Pweese

Don't give E everything good and leave me out in the cold

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