posted July 20, 2015 07:12 PM            

The way I see it, men need the toilet seat to be down to go #2, which if they are healthy should be at least once a day, if not 2-3 times a day, plus the fact that sometimes men pee sitting down (although mostly just when they go #2 too). Therefore, it is not split totally 50/50 in regards to being left down as men ALSO need to use it down at times, therefore, the greater majority of the time (even if just slightly over 50%) it needs to be down. On more practical notes, it is more esthetically pleasing when it is down as one doesn't have to see all the pee droplets/hairs under the lid on the porcelain, not to mention, maybe men could have a little sympathy in that it is harder and less pleasant for women to pee in general, and we have to wipe more, whereas men can just stand and pee and go outside quite easily as well. Squatting to pee isn't always the easiest especially when trying to keep off it pants/shoes, even when leaning against a tree or something. But ladies, I do have a tip if you are road tripping/camping, bring a tall yogurt sized plastic conatiner, then you can stand behind a tree or whatever and pee standing if you just hold the container in between your legs! It's the greatest thing I ever discovered cause me and my ex used to go 4x4ing/out to the bush a lot.

I grew up with my dad and brother and did fall into the toilet during a couple of late night groggy pee's, made worse by the fact that "if it's yellow let it mellow, it its brown, flush it down" was a motto regularly followed in my house so that made it much much worse...

Luckily, my ex whom I lived with for nearly 6 years, him and his brother were raised by a single mother who trained them very well in this regard, and in almost 6 years I don't think he left the toilet seat up once, seriously such a treat, I loved him so much for that!

Beyond all of that, I recently read some Feng Shui tips and they said to keep all the drains in your house covered when not being used to prevent "money from slipping down the drain" so I've been practicing that in my bathroom which is connected to my bedroom and now I keep the toilet seat and lid down, but it doesn't affect anyone but me cause I live alone (actually it affects my cat who would like to drink out of it, but she wouldn't be able to for the most part even if I wasn't keeping the lid down cause I still practice, "if it's yellow let it mellow"... then I don't have to feel quite so bad about loving long hot showers and baths so much...)

posted July 20, 2015 07:14 PM            

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Originally posted by deepseablues:
AG, the point Vajra is trying to make is something like this:

You dislike women griping about the toilet seat being up.

Woman gripe about men "needing" sex.

So, the relationship can be quite viable, if the man gets regular sex, in exchange for keeping the toilet seat down. It's a compromise, both parties get a little of what they want in exchange for something else.

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Yes, thanks for explaining, deepseablues!

AG, if the toilet seat is up because a man just peed, and the woman goes in next and sits down without checking, then what happens is that she's bound to sit down on the naked rim of the toilet which is not only uncomfortable but also very likely dirty (sprinkled with urine droplets) unless the guy wiped the rim. How many do that?

This bad peeing experience will not happen to the woman if: a) the man after peeing automatically remembers to put the seat down again; b) the man pees sitting down in the first place, and doesn't touch the seat at all or c), the man takes his pee outside in nature, e.g. while walking the dog, which may even be the best compromise because the feeling of being wild and free can be experienced to the fullest, and there might even be some male bonding going on between the man and the dog if both pee next to each other under the same tree. That way, no droplets will land anywhere close to a surface that is typically cleaned by a woman.

posted July 20, 2015 07:20 PM            

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Originally posted by deepseablues:
AG, the point Vajra is trying to make is something like this:

You dislike women griping about the toilet seat being up.

Woman gripe about men "needing" sex.

So, the relationship can be quite viable, if the man gets regular sex, in exchange for keeping the toilet seat down. It's a compromise, both parties get a little of what they want in exchange for something else.

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posted July 20, 2015 07:23 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
There are many shallow men out there, and not all are attractive. It is not uniquely a woman's thing.

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I also think we misunderstand attractive people when we have inhibitions around them. When we won't even talk to them.

My college boyfriend was a frat boy and I spent most weekends with all his frat boy friends. I never really got to know them, the first few years, because they were always drinking beer, talking sports and whatever.

One night my junior year I was especially drunk and decided to actually talk to this good looking friend of my boyfriend's that I barely knew (even though I spent most weekends in his proximity), because his looks had made me too shy to talk to him.

Enter tequila.

So I got to talking with him and he told me he's a geology major and started explaining his fascination with rocks, peculiar land formations, all his aspirations for testing and exploring this in his career...he was obviously passionate about the subject and fluent in the science.

posted July 20, 2015 07:27 PM            

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Originally posted by Vajra:
Yes, thanks for explaining, deepseablues!

AG, if the toilet seat is up because a man just peed, and the woman goes in next and sits down without checking, then what happens is that she's bound to sit down on the naked rim of the toilet which is not only uncomfortable but also very likely dirty (sprinkled with urine droplets) unless the guy wiped the rim. How many do that?

This bad peeing experience will not happen to the woman if: a) the man after peeing automatically remembers to put the seat down again; b) the man pees sitting down in the first place, and doesn't touch the seat at all or c), the man takes his pee outside in nature, e.g. while walking the dog, which may even be the best compromise because the feeling of being wild and free can be experienced to the fullest, and there might even be some male bonding going on between the man and the dog if both pee next to each other under the same tree. That way, no droplets will land anywhere close to a surface that is typically cleaned by a woman.

Again, what this whole thing boils down to: How desperate can men really be to have regular sex? If the small act of putting a toilet seat back in place is already too much to ask, then they can't really be suffering all that much....

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posted July 20, 2015 07:29 PM            

Hope you got my email

I was thinking the same thing you wrote here...relationships always involve some bartering. I do something for you, you do something for me.

posted July 20, 2015 07:54 PM            

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Originally posted by the7thsphere:
You wear your mutability well, methinks, hypatia.

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posted July 20, 2015 07:55 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
I wouldn't say attractive women are shallow or stuck-up. I think this phenomenon occurs mostly with western attractive women.
I have joined an international dating site and attractive women overseas are not nearly as Stuck-up. I have become friends with several women that are very attractive and they aren't anything like American women.

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posted July 20, 2015 07:56 PM            

Sorry if I made you check, wasn't sure if I should thank you again here or not...seemed rude to be around you if you didn't know what I was thinking.

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Sorry for the OT, readers.

Back to the lynching of hot American floosies who want that toilet seat down or else.

posted July 20, 2015 08:00 PM            

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Originally posted by Vajra:
^Wait until they ask you to put the toilet seat down. This seems to happen more commonly than expected even with non-Western women and is called the great communist/feminazi toilet seat conspiracy :P

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I heard the toilet paper has to spill from over the top of the roll, not merely draping from under the roll, or they withhold nuptial favors for one week per square of wrongly spilled paper.

posted July 20, 2015 08:02 PM            

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posted July 20, 2015 08:02 PM            

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Originally posted by Vajra:
^Wait until they ask you to put the toilet seat down. This seems to happen more commonly than expected even with non-Western women and is called the great communist/feminazi toilet seat conspiracy :P

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posted July 20, 2015 08:09 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:

Back to the lynching of hot American floosies who want that toilet seat down or else.

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posted July 20, 2015 08:14 PM            

Then you get angry when we defend ourselves.

posted July 20, 2015 08:35 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
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I normally do put it down. But sometimes life happens and I forget. I just think it's silly for a woman to get angry if a man doesn't instead of simply putting the d*mm toilet seat down, which would be easier.If a woman doesn't check and sits down in the toilet bowl its her own fault. As I showed earlier it is just as silly as a man expecting the toilet seat to be up and ******* all over the toilet seat and then blaming it on the woman. It's just absurd.

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Again, I personally don't get into a tizzy over this (although it is really nice when it's left down!) but just as you sometimes forget to put it back down, maybe you could see that sometimes women forget to check that it's down? Especially when it's been a good run of it being left down, it tends to slip the mind once you get used to it. The only time it ever happened to me with falling into toilet was when I was half asleep and didn't even turn the light on, and certainly thinking about checking it wasn't on my brain, and I do take responsibility for it, but it sure is unpleasant and surprising to have it happen! But also when I was young I had a tendency to sleepwalk and "go to the bathroom" (but I wasn't actually going apparently just sitting there) and when it happened then it was surprising and also not my fault for not checking haha I don't know about women freaking out over it simply being left up. I'm surprised it's actually a big issue. I guess I've just been spoiled over the years. I think it was like 2 years into living with my ex before I even realized that he had never left the seat up and one day it hit me and I was like Whoa, you've never once left the seat up! And he just smiled at me knowingly and was happy that I noticed. My two closest friends right now are guys and when they come over they have never left the seat up. It's never even something I think about. They are really courteous men in general though.

posted July 20, 2015 09:03 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
I've seen you strike up friendship after friendship HERE with American women and jeopardize it by insulting us wholesale.

Then you get angry when we defend ourselves.

Have it your way and happy trails.

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posted July 20, 2015 09:07 PM            

YUCK

Couldn't you put a warning sign on this post

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posted July 20, 2015 09:28 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
None of the foreign women I have talked to have gotten angry, hateful, sarcastic, or called me a misogynist.

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I'm sure it couldn't have anything to do with the fact that you are insulting us American women while glorifying them.

posted July 20, 2015 09:37 PM            

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Originally posted by the7thsphere:
Well, hrm. I see I haven't lost my touch for inspiring high post-counts...

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We are gonna duel it out. *I* have higher post counts

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