posted July 28, 2015 12:45 PM            

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I seem to have loved you in numberless forms...

AstroMandala

posted July 28, 2015 04:31 PM            

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Originally posted by Seimei:
crap,, This video contains content from UMG, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds. lol

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^Haha, sorry...happens to me all the time when clicking on YT links posted from the U.S., too! It was 'I want to break free' by Queen at the height of their glory.

I like how they charmingly, not negatively, fought for freedom and equality for gays in an artistic way. Look how the Grand Prix win by Conchita Wurst was celebrated just very recently.... makes me appreciate Freddy Mercury and other artists like him all the more, given how much earlier they were active.

Only a handful of years before that vid was made, my mom (who always worked, sometimes as the sole breadwinner in the family) wasn't even allowed a bank account in her own name without the then not-working bc. still studying husband's written consent. She said it felt like slavery, and that Queen vid kinda reflects this emancipatory urge most human beings feel when someone or something restricts their freedom.

As for me, I want equal chances for all kinds of people, as a fair starting point, and not equality in every sense as the final result of their development, because that would only be possible to achieve in a totalitarian dictatorship, by again robbing people of their newly-won freedom; but the truth is that equal chances at start do not currently exist for very many people, no matter where you go (not even in Scandinavia, which may be the place which currently offers the most in that respect to the greatest number of citizens according to most objective standards of measurement); this problem should the main concern, to allow people to live their life as they want, without jugdmentalism or guilt-tripping or other, more violent sanctions, as long as they don't deny that exact same right to anyone else, whether they agree with that person's life choices or not; and not the question who has it the worst.

Emancipation is thus not about the furthering of one special interest group's agenda at the cost of everyone else; and the tendency of a few so-called proponents of emancipation to abuse others' rights doesn't reflect on that idea at all; it only reflects on these people's own unenlightened state of mind and lack of comprehension of what freedom, fairness and reciprocity means. It's really very easy to see: Every person's freedom to unfold quite naturally finds its maximum boundary where it starts to conflict with the equally legitimate** interest of another, and this means that true emancipatory thinking can never condone the abuse or exploitation of other people. People who do that may say they want equality, but they actually want dominance. And they come from all kinds of genders, social backgrounds, and races. Quite simple, isn't it?

Too bad that those who actually want the same freedom, and are just coming from different starting points of perception (i.e. from different groups), all too often tend to go on in never-ending circles arguing over some minor point or other, alienating other groups, rather than cooperating and supporting each other's legitimate cause. A first step towards such cooperation would be for each side to acknowledge the other group's, not just one's own, legitimate** concerns.

posted July 28, 2015 06:42 PM            

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Originally posted by Vajra:
^Haha, sorry...happens to me all the time when clicking on YT links posted from the U.S., too! It was 'I want to break free' by Queen at the height of their glory.

I like how they charmingly, not negatively, fought for freedom and equality for gays in an artistic way. Look how the Grand Prix win by Conchita Wurst was celebrated just very recently.... makes me appreciate Freddy Mercury and other artists like him all the more, given how much earlier they were active.

Only a handful of years before that vid was made, my mom (who always worked, sometimes as the sole breadwinner in the family) wasn't even allowed a bank account in her own name without the then not-working bc. still studying husband's written consent. She said it felt like slavery, and that Queen vid kinda reflects this emancipatory urge most human beings feel when someone or something restricts their freedom.

As for me, I want equal chances for all kinds of people, as a fair starting point, and not equality in every sense as the final result of their development, because that would only be possible to achieve in a totalitarian dictatorship, by again robbing people of their newly-won freedom; but the truth is that equal chances at start do not currently exist for very many people, no matter where you go (not even in Scandinavia, which may be the place which currently offers the most in that respect to the greatest number of citizens according to most objective standards of measurement); this problem should the main concern, to allow people to live their life as they want, without jugdmentalism or guilt-tripping or other, more violent sanctions, as long as they don't deny that exact same right to anyone else, whether they agree with that person's life choices or not; and not the question who has it the worst.

Emancipation is thus not about the furthering of one special interest group's agenda at the cost of everyone else; and the tendency of a few so-called proponents of emancipation to abuse others' rights doesn't reflect on that idea at all; it only reflects on these people's own unenlightened state of mind and lack of comprehension of what freedom, fairness and reciprocity means. It's really very easy to see: Every person's freedom to unfold quite naturally finds its maximum boundary where it starts to conflict with the equally legitimate** interest of another, and this means that true emancipatory thinking can never condone the abuse or exploitation of other people. People who do that may say they want equality, but they actually want dominance. And they come from all kinds of genders, social backgrounds, and races. Quite simple, isn't it?

Too bad that those who actually want the same freedom, and are just coming from different starting points of perception (i.e. from different groups), all too often tend to go on in never-ending circles arguing over some minor point or other, alienating other groups, rather than cooperating and supporting each other's legitimate cause. A first step towards such cooperation would be for each side to acknowledge the other group's, not just one's own's, legitimate** concerns.

*steps down from soap box* BTW If anyone feels this was offensive I'll delete it, no big deal.
**only concerns that are not hurting others' legitimate interests can be themselves legitimate. This automatically excludes any agenda that exploits or abuses others.

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I feel so often that people will do something because they have the right without ever questioning whether it is the RIGHT THING TO DO. However its is the only way some learn , to do the wrong thing and then learn from their mistake. So yes FREEDOM
TO do those things that maybe they should not do is necessary. We just all learn consequences at a different
rate.
I gained lot of experience from all my ignorance,lol

posted July 28, 2015 07:35 PM            

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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
Men have a higher tolerance for thrashing metal music than women. I do not understand how so many can genuinely listen to top-of-the-lungs screaming and like 80clicks-per-minute drumming and be like, "Ah... beautiful." LOL.

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Yeah, as a teen my cousin liked to dry his long hair (longer than mine) to Cowboys From Hell by Pantera. I tried it (and it was easier for me as my hair was short) but after getting a headache I decided to stick to towels and Texas heat (hairdryer when all else failed).

I shared a story on LL before and it stayed up for several minutes at least before vanishing and I just couldn't bring myself to recreate it, and still can't in its entirety, but I'll share a brief summary here and hope it makes sense.

Many years ago, back when Hannah Montana was bigger than the Beatles to tween girls, I came across some guy on IMDB wondering why kids these days were into Hannah instead of Slayer like he was, as guys of his generation still had a pair. So I pointed out to him that Slayer targets a very different audience than Hannah Montana (in one interview a member of Slayer said he was still surprised when a woman of any age appears to genuinely enjoy the music rather than being dragged to a concert by her boyfriend) and that Slayer probably would not react well if they opened up to see the majority of their audience being ten-year-old girls chanting, "Slayer! Slayer! Slayer!" If they were anything like me they'd probably go home and board up the windows for the immanent apocalypse. (And where would the guys be? I left it to him to decide which was scarier and more preferable, the guys of his generation and the new being somewhere much more intense and scary, or that they were swaying together, holding each other's hand, as they rocked to Hannah Montana singing True Friend. )

posted July 28, 2015 07:53 PM            

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Originally posted by Vajra:
Too bad that those who actually want the same freedom, and are just coming from different starting points of perception (i.e. from different groups), all too often tend to go on in never-ending circles arguing over some minor point or other, alienating other groups, rather than cooperating and supporting each other's legitimate cause. A first step towards such cooperation would be for each side to acknowledge the other group's, not just one's own's, legitimate** concerns

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posted July 29, 2015 02:30 AM            

women get a thing put in them so they are more receptive and sacrificing and wilting.

posted July 29, 2015 11:00 AM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
Yeah, as a teen my cousin liked to dry his long hair (longer than mine) to Cowboys From Hell by Pantera. I tried it (and it was easier for me as my hair was short) but after getting a headache I decided to stick to towels and Texas heat (hairdryer when all else failed).

I shared a story on LL before and it stayed up for several minutes at least before vanishing and I just couldn't bring myself to recreate it, and still can't in its entirety, but I'll share a brief summary here and hope it makes sense.

Many years ago, back when Hannah Montana was bigger than the Beatles to tween girls, I came across some guy on IMDB wondering why kids these days were into Hannah instead of Slayer like he was, as guys of his generation still had a pair. So I pointed out to him that Slayer targets a very different audience than Hannah Montana (in one interview a member of Slayer said he was still surprised when a woman of any age appears to genuinely enjoy the music rather than being dragged to a concert by her boyfriend) and that Slayer probably would not react well if they opened up to see the majority of their audience being ten-year-old girls chanting, "Slayer! Slayer! Slayer!" If they were anything like me they'd probably go home and board up the windows for the immanent apocalypse. (And where would the guys be? I left it to him to decide which was scarier and more preferable, the guys of his generation and the new being somewhere much more intense and scary, or that they were swaying together, holding each other's hand, as they rocked to Hannah Montana singing True Friend. )

Many of the males posting there replied in enjoyment at the thought, some saying little girls chanting Slayer and wearing clothes featuring gory images of demons either made them smile or want to practice hiding their fear so the little girls couldn't smell it.

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posted July 29, 2015 11:02 AM            

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Originally posted by Vajra:
^Funny you mention this, Aquacheeka! Actually it depends, although on average you're probably right about that. However, I love metal, and my mom does too. My Dad on the other hand totally hates it, and my bro is more into gothic metal than other variants. Each year, me and my Scorp guy go to a certain metal festival to celebrate for three days among crazy ass people from all over the world who go mud-diving, crowd-surfing etc….it's hilarious to see all these "wild guys," some quite dangerous looking (many are actually engineers or other kinds of geeks though, quite harmless in other words) suddenly go all meek when the phone rings, and overhear them say things like "Yes honey, I'll come home by 10 pm and bring you some Pizza"

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posted July 29, 2015 12:31 PM            

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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
Men have a higher tolerance for thrashing metal music than women. I do not understand how so many can genuinely listen to top-of-the-lungs screaming and like 80clicks-per-minute drumming and be like, "Ah... beautiful." LOL.

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I have to say 'MEN ' of a certain age. Before I was teenage I was listening to Led Zepplin,BTO,MoodyBlues,Yes, EmersonLake&Palmer/
By the time Pantera and Slayer cam along that was TRASH, to me.

posted July 29, 2015 07:21 PM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
And now NC weighs in on some gender differences (10:28-10:45) :
http://youtu.be/01HIJlZnt44?t=10m28s

(Note that if you see any of this beyond 10:28-10:45, then you're in for some harsh language, though for what it's worth it's thrown in more for comedic effect.)

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haha. Reminded me of something that happened couple of years ago... A group of high school students travelling somewhere in the tropics of Middle America. We were staying at a very safe and bit on the high end hotel, drinking at the bar in the evening, when one of the girls comes screaming out of the room, panicking about some huge bug somewhere in the room, asking guys to go and get it (girls were devastated, two even locked themselves in the bathroom). The guys just kept sipping their drinks, totally calm, not responding, not one offered help. So I just went and cold-bloodedly exterminated the bug. It was really big though, wasn't expecting that girls worshiped me from then on and teased guys as cowards. I liked being a badas savior.

posted July 29, 2015 09:16 PM            

Lesbians are immune (just the next 4 seconds):
http://youtu.be/r0Be8LnuG3U?t=1m46s

^^
All meant in a humorous vein.

Though I like keeping some spiders around, they're good pest control and when the pests go away then the spiders die and I just have to clean up, it's very efficient...but not many can handle that (one guy thinks I'm very reckless to do that).