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Dumuzi
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posted March 17, 2021 02:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
that's true i've never really cared for my dad, even as an infant for whatever reason i wouldn't let him really hold me apparently, he'd pick me up and i'd just start crying til he put me down

there's a definite struggle of will there because we both can be stubborn and if i think someone is wrong that's it, and i was always the kid who even if my parents hit me etc i wouldn't necessarily just give in if i really wasnt ok with something

him and i can get along for brief periods of time, but we've never had a real conversation (i once told him i was struggling with suicidal thoughts and asked for help and he just gave me money i ended up buying drugs with instead for example) and it's usually just jokes or making fun of something

with my mother i know she loves me a lot, i'm definitely her favorite child and i always was, but to some degree that strained her relationship with my dad and they both just have issues aside from that

both of them were abused from a young age (my mother used to watch carrie sometimes and tell me "it's like grandma" which i believe 100% from the little i knew of my grandmother pre her dementia) so they had a lot of baggage and issues

i don't hold any grudges or hate them or anything, i can get along very well with my mother in particular but there's a lot of difficulty there

i understand their behavior is part of how they were conditioned and a reaction to the abuse they both suffered themselves, and i also look at it from a sort of karmic spiritual perspective

things meant to happen for the sake of soul growth are hard to process in our human forms when they're negative but they're necessary and can only be understood as being worthwhile to step outside of that instinct that's responsive to the way they feel

if that makes sense, i'm a little drunk right now tbh

you know i have to say i feel we started off on the wrong foot and i'm sorry for my part in that, i never expected to have a good conversation with you but here we are

also i feel like i should say i respect your approach to astrology "there's stuff we need to see for the whole picture" i've met astrologers who have a tendency to accuse a person of lying (i had this happen with a vedic one directed at me when i said i was working, because i was at the time, and he told me that shouldn't be a thing based on my chart) rather than saying there's other ways to find the larger picture

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posted March 17, 2021 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The thing with charts is that they don't have to make sense to the human mind, and they often don't. For example, a parent could feel sexual to a child or something like a child could feel abusive to a parent. It is all energy!

Thank you for your kind words to me, D. I appreciate it. I truly love astrology and I love to try to bring light to hard things in the chart because these things are there and deep and drive us. Seeing them helps to lessen them.

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posted March 17, 2021 02:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yeah you're right, it's how energies connect which can't be seen fully from a single source, still it's an approach i respect and appreciate so i felt the need to say as much

what i found odd is this particular guy was an indian who would speak openly about shiva affecting astrology in such a way that it could never be 100% (i can't remember the full myth or reason why) so it was a strange way to react but 🤷‍♀️

i just tend to assume it's something i don't know enough about to see, because i've admittedly let my astrology practicing slide a good deal

people come to me so frequently for tarot readings that it just sort of ended up being more of a focus and i find all of this energetically draining on some level

there's something about reading another person't chart for me that (tarot readings too) that just feels like i've run a few miles so it's hard to do both

you're welcome btw, i give credit where credit is due and it feels necessary to put that out there given our past interactions

also i just feel like sometimes things like this go unsaid and that should never be the case, good things should always be laid out there for the other person to know

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posted March 17, 2021 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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@ Voix, Dumuzi and teasel ... Thank you for the comments on my last reply on this thread to Randall.

My abuse by the dentist happened almost 65 years ago, and did not cause my life to go in a direction that I regret. ... So, I'm ok with that.

And now, it is time to accept that what can be learned from this debacle has been learned ... although I remain curious about Randall's view upon whether or not my mother was right to not raise the issue with the dentist because "he had not asked her to do so". ... And if the solution was indeed just to ensure that he and I no longer had any contact with each other.

Best wishes to all on the forum.


no problem, i can tell you sometimes feel out of place and unwelcome here but i've never had a negative view of you and i like that when we have disagreed we've been able to sensibly discuss it

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posted March 17, 2021 03:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Just looked at the last one. He has Sado conj the Sun( tends to be sadistic) and YOUR Uranus shakes all of that up for him so it forces this side of him to come out and it comes out erratically.

Also, your Venus conj his Nessus. You love him and he takes advantage of this love. You feel this and feel vulnerable.

Man, families are really mine fields, as they say lol


last one is my younger brother, we get along well generally never fight or anything as adults, but i'm definitely more there for him than the other way around but that's always seemed appropriate to me in a way because he's younger

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posted March 17, 2021 07:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami, I have to admit—you are a truly great intuitive astrologer. You excel in your field. I have seen you grow over time from your own tragic experiences of abuse, and to see you help others from that place of healing is a joy to watch. I am so very proud of you. I admire how you have turned your past into your strength and how strong you have grown to become.

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posted March 17, 2021 08:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You made me cry, Randall. Thank you so much!

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
You made me cry, Randall. Thank you so much!


"I will say this with 10000000% certainty. It will be very scary to get angry. If you are like I am, you will feel it in your body. You will be trembling. Your stomach may hurt. You will want to run. Force yourself to use your anger. Tell that person off. Do what you should do when someone abuses you——-REACT.

One could not react as a child. There was actual danger. There is not actual danger, now. You are fighting with a ghost. Once you learn how to fight back, you can probably walk away." http://mychristianpsychic.com/journal/the-power-of-anger/

REACT ... via passive-aggressive behaviour?**


[ ** Note for information. ... Although there remains no doubts in my mind that you do engage in passive-aggressive behaviour, AMI ... I am impressed by your website; your knowledge/understanding of asteroids and how you use the latter constructively in your work. ]

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Ami, I have to admit—you are a truly great intuitive astrologer. You excel in your field. I have seen you grow over time from your own tragic experiences of abuse, and to see you help others from that place of healing is a joy to watch. I am so very proud of you. I admire how you have turned your past into your strength and how strong you have grown to become.

The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth?

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posted May 19, 2021 12:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am just reading through this thread because I have tried to stay away from negativity because - as Randall pointed out - I have been hurting badly. In all honesty, I have been suicidal a lot since mom died. The past six months have been a living hell for me. I say all that to say that Randall was right on the money in his assessment of me and my behavior.

I was very aggressive and hateful towards Graham. I know it wasn't right or justified, but I was hurting and felt very much attacked by him. I perceived a lot of hostility and judgement coming from this person that didn't even know me or what I have dealt with in my life.

And even though it doesn't justify my behavior, I still feel like it was pretty horrible for Graham to continue escalating a conflict when he knew I was dealing with the worst pain of my life. My behavior may have been inexcusable, but so was Graham's. I have had someone say some very nasty things to me and behave in a very rude way towards me, but I held my tongue and didn't retaliate because someone told me this person's mom was dying and I was mature enough to realize that it wasn't about me at all. And I recall basically begging Graham to realize it wasn't about him but just in different words. So from where I'm standing we were both in the wrong.

My 🌝 and Mars are in the third house, and that means I communicate in a very raw way. Most people don't understand me and misinterpret the things I say because my communication style is too real for most people.

A lot of people here have accused me of me being a misogynist/woman hater because I am often very critical of women. I vehemently reject this label, but I have come to accept that people are going to believe what they want to believe so I try to not let it bother me. It is what it is, but it's not true and I love many women.

I have been hurt by a lot of women in my life. I think I might have already mentioned this here, but I'll mention it again. I was going to counseling for my grief over losing mom and I brought up my anger towards women. Immediately, the very kind old man that I was talking to transformed into someone nasty and aggressively asked me "You have never hit a woman have you?" See how that works? I was vulnerable and honest about my feelings towards women and he immediately thought the worst. That's how the dynamic always plays out on this forum too if I'm honest about my feelings.

The sad fact is men aren't allowed to express anger at women. And there's a lot to be angry about. I have seen the worst of humanity in women, but I have also known some very sweet and kind women too. In our culture, we have this concept of toxic masculinity. But what about toxic femininity? Why don't we talk about all the ways that women's dark behavior hurts men.

I have seen a woman cheat on her boyfriend with his best friend, and I have also known women who stole from and used their fathers and significant others. Women can be toxic too. Women victimize others too. They just do it in different ways than men do it.


So yeah, I own the fact that I am an angry guy and have a lot of emotional scars from women. But you know what? I'm actively fighting my demons. I have sought out counseling and other forms of healing of my own will. People can say what they want about me, but no one can deny that I have tried my hardest to heal and move on. So continue judging me if you want, I don't care. I know my heart. I know my intentions. So I'm going to try to not let others get to me anymore.

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posted May 19, 2021 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@aquaguy91:

sorry you've been dealing with suicidal thoughts, i've been there many times myself, still get there for a myriad of reasons fairly often and have for years it's not an easy thing to deal with but in a way it can be utilized for something better

for example learning to appreciate small things becomes important when you feel that way, mindfulness too, both help a lot learning to be present

i can't justify your behavior and i'm glad that you accept that it doesn't though i do understand people who are hurting themselves can hurt other people

you both judged each other without knowing each other, and you've lashed out at others without knowing them or what they've gone through (myself included), it happens 🤷‍♀️ but hopefully you can both move past it and not continue to fight

i don't recall anyone saying to you women are never toxic, they can be, there are definitely things i would consider toxic femininity and i've personally (recently) got all kinds of **** on LL from someone for saying all men aren't terrible and most men are perfectly decent humans

the thing is when someone is angry at women as a whole no one is going to balance that out by going on about ****** women, or talking about what's wrong with men they're going to say things like what i did to you which was the women you're meeting seem to have issues where are you meeting them etc and pointing out a bias (men do those same sorts of things you listed, i'd argue that isn't toxic femininity but just people being terrible to each other in relationships)

it's just what's relevant to the situation

anyway i'm glad you're finding solace in therapy, what personally helps me has been learning to be fully present in every moment and really seeing the world around me and what i mean by that is something as simple as looking at the stars becomes different when you're fully there and experiencing it instead of a million other places in your head

might be worth a shot for you

i have 3rd house mars myself (in placidus anyway) btw so i get that to a degree is what it is though

anyway good luck with everything, i personally have no hard feelings and expect/accept growth in others

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posted May 19, 2021 06:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AG

I have known you for 10 years and I have loved you for being real, being sweet, being honest, being vulnerable and being simply wonderful. I just wanted you to know that inside my heart you are one of the very special people who live there.

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posted May 19, 2021 10:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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@aquaguy91:

sorry you've been dealing with suicidal thoughts, i've been there many times myself, still get there for a myriad of reasons fairly often and have for years it's not an easy thing to deal with but in a way it can be utilized for something better

for example learning to appreciate small things becomes important when you feel that way, mindfulness too, both help a lot learning to be present

i can't justify your behavior and i'm glad that you accept that it doesn't though i do understand people who are hurting themselves can hurt other people

you both judged each other without knowing each other, and you've lashed out at others without knowing them or what they've gone through (myself included), it happens 🤷‍♀️ but hopefully you can both move past it and not continue to fight

i don't recall anyone saying to you women are never toxic, they can be, there are definitely things i would consider toxic femininity and i've personally (recently) got all kinds of **** on LL from someone for saying all men aren't terrible and most men are perfectly decent humans

the thing is when someone is angry at women as a whole no one is going to balance that out by going on about ****** women, or talking about what's wrong with men they're going to say things like what i did to you which was the women you're meeting seem to have issues where are you meeting them etc and pointing out a bias (men do those same sorts of things you listed, i'd argue that isn't toxic femininity but just people being terrible to each other in relationships)

it's just what's relevant to the situation

anyway i'm glad you're finding solace in therapy, what personally helps me has been learning to be fully present in every moment and really seeing the world around me and what i mean by that is something as simple as looking at the stars becomes different when you're fully there and experiencing it instead of a million other places in your head

might be worth a shot for you

i have 3rd house mars myself (in placidus anyway) btw so i get that to a degree is what it is though

anyway good luck with everything, i personally have no hard feelings and expect/accept growth in others


Thanks for the kind words. The thing with me is I had girls Interested in me in jr high and high school and I was the most shy and insecure kid ever. I had girls express interest in me, so I know what that looks and feels like. And that's why it bothers me so much to be treated like a complete undesirable now. Women don't even smile or make eye contact with me!
I have been on a major university campus since 2017, and I have only had one woman flirt with me and be friendly towards me in all that time on a campus with thousands of students. One! And then it turned out that she had a boyfriend and was just stringing me along the whole time. That hurt me a lot.

Something shifted in women once smartphones took off. They became just as shallow as men, if not more so. That's my observation at least.

I don't hate women, but I do feel some anger and resentment when I'm in an egoic frame of mind. Yeah, it really bothers me that women think they are too good for me and that I'm not worth knowing. They communicate these things to me every day in so many ways. Most people would have some kind of egoic reaction to that sort of treatment. Imagine having the opposite sex reject you romantically when you weren't even romantically interested in them to begin with. Yeah, **** like that happens to me all the time. It's like "Yeah... I get it... I'm undesirable to women. You don't have to be rude and remind of that in such obnoxious ways."

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posted May 19, 2021 10:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
AG

I have known you for 10 years and I have loved you for being real, being sweet, being honest, being vulnerable and being simply wonderful. I just wanted you to know that inside my heart you are one of the very special people who live there.



Aww! Love you, Ami!

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posted May 20, 2021 12:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Thanks for the kind words. The thing with me is I had girls Interested in me in jr high and high school and I was the most shy and insecure kid ever. I had girls express interest in me, so I know what that looks and feels like. And that's why it bothers me so much to be treated like a complete undesirable now. Women don't even smile or make eye contact with me!
I have been on a major university campus since 2017, and I have only had one woman flirt with me and be friendly towards me in all that time on a campus with thousands of students. One! And then it turned out that she had a boyfriend and was just stringing me along the whole time. That hurt me a lot.

Something shifted in women once smartphones took off. They became just as shallow as men, if not more so. That's my observation at least.

I don't hate women, but I do feel some anger and resentment when I'm in an egoic frame of mind. Yeah, it really bothers me that women think they are too good for me and that I'm not worth knowing. They communicate these things to me every day in so many ways. Most people would have some kind of egoic reaction to that sort of treatment. Imagine having the opposite sex reject you romantically when you weren't even romantically interested in them to begin with. Yeah, **** like that happens to me all the time. It's like "Yeah... I get it... I'm undesirable to women. You don't have to be rude and remind of that in such obnoxious ways."


you're welcome, i know pain well and i know what being in that headspace is and as result i know how much effort it takes to just keep going day to day it can be exhausting

also i can respect you owning your part in what happened, even if it's in retrospect (can be hard to see anything while you're in a certain headspace afterall) not everyone can and that's a good quality and shows that you really have grown in ways since that particular incident

i personally am really terrible at letting someone i actually like know i'm interested unless they make the first move (this is horrible btw because i generally like shy introverted nerdy guys so it's a terrible combination given my personality with that) and i think a lot of women can be like that so i'm sure that's it sometimes

other times i mean... i hate to say this but being a straight white guy (am i making a wrong assumption?) in a college setting now probably does make things hard too especially if you're around women who see you as "the enemy" an unfortunate reality is a fair amount of women hate men to begin with and tack on what feminism has become and the whole "down with the patriarchy" type of deal and yeah... not a good combo

sorry about that woman btw, i get that you have bad luck i've had different kinds of bad luck personally (recently had a guy get really mad at me even though i repeatedly told him i'm not looking for anyone currently because he wanted more and i took a while to answer him because i was playing a video game. i didn't even say it in like a personal way it just came up talking about life) and i think when you let it eat away at you and change how you view everyone that's where the problems come in

i'm in a weird space myself where i'm just straight up living hermit mode while logically accepting that all people aren't terrible but unable to sort of balance my head with where 30+ years of trauma (and I'm 34 about to be 35 so that's not the best track record) and **** have put it 🤷‍♀️ so i can tell you this sort of thing about individuals and chances and genuinely believe it wholeheartedly but like... i also get the difference between knowing something and being able to balance that knowledge with your actions and how you exist in the world and interact with others

i don't know you to say you're undesirable, what i can say as a woman is, your anger and the ways it shows up would be a big issue and if at all comes through on your energy even unintentionally that could be part of the problem (aside from where you're looking, like no trucks girl for example sounded like an obvious ***** to me and you missed the red flags on that one i think)

things like that though can affect stuff, energy/vibe can make a big difference (i know it can be frustrating being a 3rd house mars though, i know i say **** all the time not meaning to be as harsh or blunt and then my bad 🤷‍♀️ so i get that too) more than physical appearance

i don't know what you look like but i've noticed a lot of guys are really insecure and unsure of themselves and part of that seems to be because women aren't generally forward with them so they don't get much feedback

and i say that meaning guys who have no reason to feel that way too, but even if you did looks aren't everything anyway and appearance doesn't matter to everyone

all that aside though i believe in fate and connections and people coming along when they're meant to, so i feel like you'll meet someone regardless they just seem to be taking their time

maybe as you heal yourself more outside of you will change and heal too including who/what you draw in 🤞

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posted May 20, 2021 02:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dumuzi,
I say I'm undesirable because that's how women treat me for the most part. In reality, I'm an average looking guy. Average looking is the new ugly in the swipe left world we are living in, though.

I'm not basing all this on a lack of overt flirtation directed towards me, but that is also a part of it. Again, I know it can happen because it used to be a normal part of my experience in jr high and high school. Girls used to flirt with me and ask me out and then I became completely invisible.

In my adult life, I have pursued a lot of women and extended a lot of invitations and I usually get ghosted or blown off if I even get far enough for that to happen. That's how I know that they find me undesirable.

If I recall correctly, me and you had our falling out when you implied I somehow seek out unavailable women. I don't think I seek out women who are unavailable. It's more like they are all unavailable to me because they don't like me.

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Everything is going to be ok aquaguy. Don't worry. Very soon you will find a woman who will love you and you will be together and you will forget all those things that are hurting you now.

Don't give up. She will come.

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Where are you Love for aquaguy?...
Don't be late...

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I say I'm undesirable because that's how women treat me for the most part. In reality, I'm an average looking guy. Average looking is the new ugly in the swipe left world we are living in, though.

I'm not basing all this on a lack of overt flirtation directed towards me, but that is also a part of it. Again, I know it can happen because it used to be a normal part of my experience in jr high and high school. Girls used to flirt with me and ask me out and then I became completely invisible.

In my adult life, I have pursued a lot of women and extended a lot of invitations and I usually get ghosted or blown off if I even get far enough for that to happen. That's how I know that they find me undesirable.

If I recall correctly, me and you had our falling out when you implied I somehow seek out unavailable women. I don't think I seek out women who are unavailable. It's more like they are all unavailable to me because they don't like me.


well i wasn't intending to imply anything then i was really just asking questions to try to understand where you were meeting women because like i said then the quality of people you meet can be judged to a degree based on where you're meeting them

hook up apps where people are swiping left based on blurbs and appearances being one of the not so great places to find a person

idk you say these things to me about how people are and it's all pretty foreign to me because i'm not that way myself and i know other people aren't, the thing is worthwhile very deep connections will always be few and far between that's what gives them meaning and value

them being hard to find is part of what makes them so good when you find them, and that can happen anywhere and by random chance too

average will always be average, and i actually got that impression that you were below average based on things you said in your thread about ****** waitresses where i told you it wasn't your looks it's just waitresses generally don't like their jobs and hate people who use a table just for themselves because to them they could get a "real" table and they'll get tipped so little it won't be worth it to them

the only way they care about a person who's alone at a table is if that person is a regular and reliable tip wise

not always the case but 98% of the time, i saw a lot of servers come and go when i worked in a kitchen for a bit

consider the women who ghosted you did you a favor, imagine trying to have a relationship with someone who treats people like that 🤷‍♀️

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posted May 20, 2021 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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well i wasn't intending to imply anything then i was really just asking questions to try to understand where you were meeting women because like i said then the quality of people you meet can be judged to a degree based on where you're meeting them

hook up apps where people are swiping left based on blurbs and appearances being one of the not so great places to find a person

idk you say these things to me about how people are and it's all pretty foreign to me because i'm not that way myself and i know other people aren't, the thing is worthwhile very deep connections will always be few and far between that's what gives them meaning and value

them being hard to find is part of what makes them so good when you find them, and that can happen anywhere and by random chance too

average will always be average, and i actually got that impression that you were below average based on things you said in your thread about ****** waitresses where i told you it wasn't your looks it's just waitresses generally don't like their jobs and hate people who use a table just for themselves because to them they could get a "real" table and they'll get tipped so little it won't be worth it to them

the only way they care about a person who's alone at a table is if that person is a regular and reliable tip wise

not always the case but 98% of the time, i saw a lot of servers come and go when i worked in a kitchen for a bit

consider the women who ghosted you did you a favor, imagine trying to have a relationship with someone who treats people like that 🤷‍♀️


No offense, but pretty much everyone says they aren't like that, but they are when push comes to shove. Ignoring or ghosting guys doesn't mean a woman is a horrible person. It just means they have too many options to deal with.

Where do I meet women? Everywhere. Sure, dating apps suck major balls, but dating sites are one of the few viable options I have. I have tried everything else. I even spent a good deal of time and money taking dance classes, and I rolled my eyes each time the women I danced with told me how they wished their husbands and boyfriends would take dance classes. I only had one woman express interest in me the whole time I took dances classes and she was way older than me and I wasn't attracted to her at all. And I have already told you that I'm completely invisible on my campus. Also, my social circles aren't providing me with single women to mingle with. Oh, I also go to a good church, but there's no young single women to speak of.

So what are my choices? I'm pretty much forced to put up with the soul-crushing bs on dating sites. I literally have no other options.

You want to talk about special connections. Lol I don't even believe in that anymore. This modern dating scene has completely destroyed my self esteem. Soulmate? I'd settle for an average looking woman who is willing to date me and sleep with me. I have needs and can't wait around waiting for someone that will never come.


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none taken 🤷‍♀️ can't make you a less cynical person that'll either come with time or it won't

if you take the time out to speak to someone you can take the time to let things die off on their own or turn them down, when it's too many messages to even look at all of them then chances are most people aren't really getting actual conversation and only a few people are

those people are the ones who get told things rather than ghosted or just become friends over time, and i'm assuming you mean talk to multiple times then getting ghosted not just one conversation (which is different)

idk man anywhere, i've met guys just going for walks and while grocery shopping etc there doesn't have to be a specific place hell i've met people while i've just been chilling by the river too

some places are easier than others or things are more expected but like 🤷‍♀️ life and **** happen no?

i don't really understand why you think interactions are forced to be so limited even like online **** i knew a chick who married a guy she met while playing WoW and he was in another country and another chick i knew got married to a guy she met on discord

you can meet people online without being limited to dating sites, even better that it's not a dating site because that shallow **** isn't there

my point from the beginning was you're looking at people who are into the dating scene and that's loaded in trash

make friends meet their friends, get to know people without dating being the biggest reason you're even talking (those women in relationships at church have single friends or family members etc i'm sure... hell i had a job before where the woman i was working for has a daughter she thinks should meet my brother, because we were talking and found out they have a lot in common. get to know people and you never know who might be in their life)

and honestly i believe even if you met someone you just ****** around with for a bit that'd still be someone you were meant to meet and an experience to grow/learn from so it doesn't have to even be soulmate type stuff though deep connections do exist

you're very jaded and cynical and regardless of experiences you really don't have to be you know, i've had tons of bad experiences myself that doesn't mean everything has to be bleak

the way you're thinking though, the way you see stuff it's a barrier that keeps good things out too you know

even if you don't see how it could that sort of thing does

you ever meet someone who gives off such a bad feeling that the minute they walk into a room they shut everything down? even people who aren't particularly energy sensitive respond negatively and sort of don't know how to react/interact

i'm not saying you're that extreme, but what i'm saying is that sort of person is a good example of how energy can affect how people react to us and in front of us

everyone could have been happy and smiling and having a good time then they came along everyone stops

from their perspective that happy fun room of people is a very different place, it's cold and uninviting, but the difference in the room was their energy not the people in it but how the people reacted to them

i think maybe as you heal yourself and work through stuff you'll see what i mean, i hope you do anyway

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