posted November 16, 2013 02:22 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

But is it normal that I LOVE it?

LOL

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posted November 16, 2013 02:33 PM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
With Aries Alice? Hello? Grand adventure! Folie a deux!

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posted November 16, 2013 02:45 PM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Alice making aspects in the natal gives her tools for making it work - or worse. A heavily aspected Alice belies a curious, inquisitive individual.

Alice-Moon indicates your own emotions can help or hinder your progress. Do you overreact or are you able to adapt?

Alice trine Moon indicates someone whose natural intuition can provide wonderful insight for reading a situation and others. No matter her initial take on things, she can tap into her emotional reservoir and 'feel it out'.

Naturally, Mars adds a warrior spirit - or bad temper.

When trine, it gives a touch of the martial. You're willing to fight - and defend - yourself in unfamiliar surroundings. No shrinking violet there. You may have 'beginner's luck' in more things than most. Mars gives an oomph and talent for taking the right action in taut uncertainty.

I can imagine Alice-Mars to make good fighters, gamers, law enforcement, and emergency response personnel. The unknown doesn't daunt; you just take it as it comes - often emerging smelling like a rose.

House positions will best determine where you're most likely 'in uncharted waters' and how you'll use those Martian gifts to combat the circumstances.

EDIT: Ah! Square Mars. Yes, that just brings in a temper. So, you're a bit of a mixed bag; on the one hand, eager to explore, and on the other - with a very limited patience for obstacles encountered. Much like the original Alice herself.

Holding your temper back will categorically make the journey smoother.

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Thank you <3 I don't think I tend to overact and I definitely don't have a bad temper (I get annoyed easily though). But I can defend myself if necessary! My Alice is in the 6th house btw.

posted November 16, 2013 02:57 PM            

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... people noticed that, despite my usual anxiety and carefulness and keeping out of everything, sometimes it is like a switch gets pulled, and I will act very impulsively, and for most people who know my cautious Self, unpredictable.

That is rather Aries-to me, in these situations. Well, I may be circling around the rabbithole, analysing the pros and cons and the method to get down there safely and not ever thinking of REALLY going down there, and knowing that it is all theoretizing, and listening to all the reasons why NOT, and listening to my caution, and then when I am feeling safe, relieved, knowing it will NOT happen, then sometimes there is a moment, when my thinking sort of just stops, and I am reacting to whatever stimulus ever. It is THAT moment that makes me plunge into the hole, headfirst, and later wondering why my head is hurting and how on earth I even ended up there to begin with. (as the plunge had not been a conscious rational decision, but some impulse or instinct taking over).

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Exactly. When the rest of the chart is more detached, logical, cautious, or analytical, and you've got Alice in a strong, dive-right-in sort of sign, there can definitely be a kind of 'flipped-switch' which causes you to act contrary to your usual approach.

Naturally, Madhatter is going to show the areas in which the bizarre is status quo, and where YOU tend to react in a contrary manner.

posted November 16, 2013 03:01 PM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Thank you <3 I don't think I tend to overact and I definitely don't have a bad temper (I get annoyed easily though). But I can defend myself if necessary! My Alice is in the 6th house btw.

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Alice in the house of the everyday routine. That's interesting! Do you find that the mundane seems far from it? Are daily circumstances often changing, and you have to keep abreast of them? For example, TV producers attest that working in the industry is exciting for one who's adaptable to unforeseen issues, and able to roll with uncertainty. The day-to-day often presents new challenges that must be overcome quickly to keep everything on schedule.

posted November 16, 2013 03:07 PM            

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My Alice likes to get to the root of things. Plunging down, which is apt symbolism for the 4th house as it (well the IC) is at the deepest point in the chart, root of the soul.

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I like that! Yes, Alice at the IC would definitely be intensely curious and willing to delve deeply into 'the root' of things. I could also surmise these 'roots' might also be somewhat literal. A 4H Alice may denote a passion for genealogy, for example, or even history, and antiques. Fascination with the past, I'd say.

The flipside of that is, of course, that home can feel like a topsy-turvy wonderland.

posted November 16, 2013 03:29 PM            

In someone's 8H, I'll wager Alice is tumbling not into the Under-ground - but the Underworld! Good thing it's in Sag, else it might not be a very pleasant trip.

Alice-Pluto is definitely unafraid of going head to head with danger, even life-and-death situations. Extreme circumstances. It bestows a keen perception and tendency to 'cut through' to the core of a thing.

posted November 16, 2013 03:34 PM            

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And it's even in the last degree Humm...My external life is very boring most of the time (at least lately) so I don't know what to think. My Mars is in the 9th.

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Have you been known to 'shake it up' when it gets to be too tedious? I can bet that an Aquarian Alice is going to find ways to make her daily routine more exciting.

posted November 16, 2013 04:09 PM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Exactly. When the rest of the chart is more detached, logical, cautious, or analytical, and you've got Alice in a strong, dive-right-in sort of sign, there can definitely be a kind of 'flipped-switch' which causes you to act contrary to your usual approach.

Naturally, Madhatter is going to show the areas in which the bizarre is status quo, and where YOU tend to react in a contrary manner.

Mm. Swordfighting. I've got a thing for that myself.

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Yes, yes, yes. And actually I did a bit of swordfighting today.

Not really.

But today was visitor`s day at our school, my colleague (she is just as insane as me, just in a different way) and me had a room for Roman games and other Latin-based stuff (us being Latin teachers and all), and well there were some pupils in the room playing, and one pupil had brougth some swords (well from foam, but still!), and I grabbed one and threw her the other one, and we started swordfighting a little bit. Well I saw some potentially new parents for our school lurking through the door. And oh my, what ipression did we leave? That the teachers at our school are all plain crazy and silly?
But anyway the ones I saw looking, actually were smiling.

But yes that was my swordfight experience today.

posted November 16, 2013 04:13 PM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
I like that! Yes, Alice at the IC would definitely be intensely curious and willing to delve deeply into 'the root' of things. I could also surmise these 'roots' might also be somewhat literal. A 4H Alice may denote a passion for genealogy, for example, or even history, and antiques. Fascination with the past, I'd say.

The flipside of that is, of course, that home can feel like a topsy-turvy wonderland.

With Madhatter there, I can imagine it'd feel like living in a bit of a madhouse! New meaning to 'my crazy family / relatives'.

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Yes, very fascinated with genealogy, even pas lives.

posted November 16, 2013 04:15 PM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
It's really interesting that your Alice is opposite Pluto, and his falls in his 8H. There's a real 'delve deeply' energy there.

In someone's 8H, I'll wager Alice is tumbling not into the Under-ground - but the Underworld! Good thing it's in Sag, else it might not be a very pleasant trip.

Alice-Pluto is definitely unafraid of going head to head with danger, even life-and-death situations. Extreme circumstances. It bestows a keen perception and tendency to 'cut through' to the core of a thing.

So you both have a knack for diving headlong into danger, taking charge when you're there, and facing extreme circumstances. That's quite cool!

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That`s very astute! I hadn`t made the association myself, but you are right of course. yes, luckily in Sag.

posted November 16, 2013 04:19 PM            

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Have you been known to 'shake it up' when it gets to be too tedious?

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Not really.

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Do you find that you have little patience for foreigners - which are truly foreign? In other words, encountering the genuinely foreign: food you don't know, a language you don't understand, a culture which is unknown to you - and so on? Is there both a fascination with - and mild trepidation for - these things?

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What a miss I'm open to foreign stuff and people. I might not be enthusiastic about everything (insects for breakfast? no, thanks!) but in general I'm open and curious. You should have in mind I have a Sag Mercury though.

Ceri
lol! There was a time when I attempted learning Latin but I gave up very quickly.

posted November 16, 2013 06:18 PM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
What a miss I'm open to foreign stuff and people. I might not be enthusiastic about everything (insects for breakfast? no, thanks!) but in general I'm open and curious. You should have in mind I have a Sag Mercury though.

Ceri
lol! There was a time when I attempted learning Latin but I gave up very quickly.

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Thanks for telling me, Cappy. Only way to learn.

I think it's interesting you attempted to learn a language - but gave up very quickly. I'm inclined to think the 9H Mars squaring Alice might have something there. It'd be hard to daunt an Aquarian Alice, though. I wonder what a Mars square could mean.

If they're tools and abilities we bring along with us, do you come bearing a Swiss Army knife?

Plus, I've yet to meet anyone with lots of Sag or 9H strong who doesn't dig other cultures. It's, like, a law. ;p

posted November 16, 2013 06:51 PM            

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If they're tools and abilities we bring along with us, do you come bearing a Swiss Army knife?

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No, I prefer an axe

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Plus, I've yet to meet anyone with lots of Sag or 9H strong who doesn't dig other cultures. It's, like, a law. ;p

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I gave up learning Latin because I felt a little overwhelmed (I had no teacher) and I realized I would have no real benefit from it (meaning, the ability to communicate with other people). The latter was the main reason.

posted November 16, 2013 07:57 PM            

(Included the Arabic Part of Destiny as transit Pluto is currently conjuncting that.)

Hmm... so where does the rabbit hole lead for me? Seeing as it's in Cancer 8th house in my chart, emotions are definitely something to keep on top of in my case if I want to keep my head o.O

I do like to cook for myself when the time/opportunity allows. Particularly fond of spicy foods. Sometimes my intuition pays off (other times not so much), and yeah some familiarity does sound good at times. And yeah, when I don't maintain composure it goes downhill pretty fast.

Opposite Justus-Blow-Ceres ... not sure what to make of it, but sounds like if I want to keep the head clear and be on my merry way away from madness, then emulating Scarface is not the way to go.

Conjunct Barbarossa... why do I have a feeling this keeps coming back to World War II history for me... or Germanic/Holy Roman Imperial?

Squares: Whenever someone says "hey buddy..." to me as if they want something, I immediately know someone's up to no good. That's been my experience anyway.

The sextile link to Moon/Chiron probably serves to amplify the "keep it together or lose your way" influence on this for me.

The semisextile to California, combined with the square to Watts suggests to me to keep my distance from the Watts district of Los Angeles, particularly when I remember the phrase "Watts Riots". Considering I haven't made it to California yet, this is a non-issue.

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posted November 17, 2013 02:46 AM            

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ALICE in the Signs

ALICE IN LEO
A royal position, indeed. Here, Alice dreams of her reaching the eighth square, eventual becoming Queen. She's got an odd knack for getting the help when she needs it, barely lifting a finger. It's as if others naturally recognise her regal nature and come to her aid. Of course, she could be part of that, being the most magnanimous, charismatic, and theatrical of the Alices. Her sunny disposition and dramatic demeanour seems to draw others to her, providing the assistance she needs right when she needs it. Keep any arrogance in check, and you'll never want for the admiration of others - no matter what curious circumstances in which you happen to find yourself. Nobody wants to help an entitled egomaniac, and your gregariousness is your superpower.

Just don't let it get to your head - or the Queen of Hearts will remind you it's best to keep it down.

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Alice at 6.36 Leo conj 6.53 ASC. Only problem right now is that I can't remember Morpheus' quote to Neo verbatim, on "Do you want to see how far the rabbit hole goes?" and all that.

Whiterabbit 3.49 Cancer conjunct 2.36 Can East Point likewise

5.33 Sag Madhatter
Dodo 4.27 Sco

Tweedles at 21.57 and 22.41 Virgo, dum and dee
23.53 Gem Redqueen
9 Leo Whiteknight
10.51 Sag Marchare

For what it's worth, I never particularly liked the Alice in Wonderland stories or the world as a child, or much later either. The main great thing to come out of the whole lot is the Knave of Hearts Stayne from the newer movie.

Alice trine Madhatter, Madhatter opp 4.21 Gem Mars, Marchare conj 9.01 Neptune trine Whiteknight. I also appear to have the Tweedles square my Redqueen.

What would you say about synastry with Madhatter conjunct Tweedledee and SN conj Dodo?

posted November 18, 2013 11:45 AM            

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(meaning, the ability to communicate with other people). The latter was the main reason.

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Hey you could communicate with me, or the pope.

posted November 18, 2013 11:49 AM            

No astro-content know.

oh on the topic - almost - I overheard a pupil today (well she wanted me to hear I Guess) that Latin teachers are crazy.
Another pupil replied: "that`s much better than boring. Besides we are crazy, too, anyway." LOL

posted November 18, 2013 01:30 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

Hey you could communicate with me, or the pope.

Or coming up with some new spells; I notice that most spells muttered in TV-series are rooted in Latin (or Romanian I htink).

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That's actually a good point! I'd love to perform an exorcism on the leader of Babylon the Great Spells...I don't practise magic but being able to mutter legit Latin (with the word Satani once in a while and a menacing face) could be very useful in case someone gets on my nerves When it comes to you, we always have English And you're far from being scary, I'm so sorry

Btw, I love the way Romanian sounds.

posted November 18, 2013 02:40 PM            

And very true. They think you have gone crazy. I know it. I tried it out. lol

" When it comes to you, we always have English "
Quid dixisti?
Doleo, sed verba tua non intellexi.
Loquere Romane, preco!

" And you're far from being scary, I'm so sorry "
But but but I have Pluto on the MC. PLUTO. on the MC!!!!!

"Btw, I love the way Romanian sounds."
Yes me, too. At the same time it is giving me goosebumps though. There is such a familiar feel.

Actually I looked up the asteroid Romania. lol
Lands on 15 Libra (conj. my Aphrodite on 13 Libra), trine my Moon on 17 Aqua, trine my Karma on 16 Gemini,s quare my Saturn on 17 Cancer.

Opposes my Draconic Sun exactly.