posted January 25, 2014 04:39 PM            

YES, this was the point I was trying to make and the distinction!

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posted January 25, 2014 04:51 PM            

Wow. Gives me great concern though, for the CASANOVA-NNODE conjunction. Yeah, it's my CASANOVA, but how do I know he's not the one expressing it? Pulling the energy, in other words, towards development?

posted January 25, 2014 05:22 PM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Okay, that jives.

Wow. Gives me great concern though, for the CASANOVA-NNODE conjunction. Yeah, it's my CASANOVA, but how do I know he's not the one expressing it? Pulling the energy, in other words, towards development?

I'm all for it, honestly, except ... his own CASANOVA. 1H. 47N? Ye gods. I hope I haven't created a monster.

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I am not following. Do you want to post the synastry?

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posted January 25, 2014 05:58 PM            

He was never connected to lovers himself, except for Psyche, and after they finally have found a way to each other, he was a faithful devoted husband to her. (one of the rare ones in the Roman Pantheon btw).

I also find it interesting that the story us astrologers love so much is found within Apuleius, Metamorphoses, and is titled: Cupid and Psyche.

Not ERos and Psyche, not even Amor and Psyche. Throughout this story the male God of love, married to Psyche, is always referred to as Cupid; while in Ovid`s metamorphoses in other stories the name Cupid is used interchangeable with Amor, in that story itself, in connection to Psyche, it is always Cupid, none of his other emanations.

I once have been doing a little research and was kinda surprised, how often this pairing also shows astrologically in couples that ar e often seen as soulmates. In any case they shared a deep, lasting, sometimes complicated bond.

1) Humphrey Bogart - Lauren Bacall
Cupido conjunct and opposite Psyche

2) Paul Newman - Joanne Woodward
Cupido opposite Psyche

3) Paul Mc Cartney - Linda Mc Cartney (Eastman)
Cupido conjunct Psyche exact

This actually agrees with my own observations about the connections this asteroids plays a huge role in. At the bottom there seems to be always a strong magnetism and attraction, which makes sense considering Cupido is simply the Latin word for "desire".

While this attraction might be triggered by physical stimulus (Cupid`s arrow), it is not necessarily deceptive or just a game, and certainly not with ill intent (unless a certain playfulness is seen as malevolent or deceiving).

To be that, other connections have to also occur in the synastry.

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Ami,

this is an open forum, and as I understand it, aiming to provide a place for people to exchange thoughts, for an open discourse.

Of course people will have different opinions, deductions, perspectives about certain things at times (as we do in the case of Cupido apparently), and I find that absolutely alright.

Worse than some disagreement, voiced in a civil manner, is the attempt to prevent someone from expressing their thoughts in my opinion, which I feel you were trying to do to me in this thread.

Of course I could open a new thread about Cupido. But why should I, if there is already a thread existing, to which many people could contribute their thoughts?

This thread is placed in "Asteroid Astrology", not in "Personal Readings", and on a forum/ message board, inviting a discussion or expression of thoughts and ideas.

I take astrology very seriously, and of course I have my own approach (like you do, too and others); my approach in terms of asteroids derives their meanings on the myths, names and discovery charts.

If I see something that seems inconsistent to me, or something that I find interesting, intriguing, something that resonates with me, or that I can or cannot relate to (and I find it important enough to care), I will point it out, I will give my thoughts, especially on a discussion-forum.

posted January 25, 2014 06:33 PM            

His CUPIDO would be parallel my PSYCHE!

Agh!

Just like his EROS, because THEY're parallel.

No wonder it feels a LOT like that with him. I can get REALLY angry when I feel like he's letting All Outside Influences distract him from the relationship, but I never, EVER got that emotionally predator thing from him. The CASANOVA's a little concerning ... being OOB like that ... but I think it's my nerves.

But the CUPIDO (Cupid) and PSYCHE links make more sense to me. (It's a closer, exact parallel.)

posted January 25, 2014 06:45 PM            

It's more concern over his OOB CASANOVA, and then there being a conjunction of my CASANOVA to his NNODE, represented in my 8H, and his 5H.

He's not a 'love 'em and leave 'em' type by a long shot, and seeing the NNODE link, there's a part of me feeling that he had to do the 'do and discard' thing with me in order to grow in some way. That's hard - honestly, deeply detrimental in a lot of ways, as we were both trying to help each other heal from certain past abuses and difficulties that keep us locked in a cycle of sexual anorexia.

But if he really, deep-down IS this type, and he just didn't know it until it 'kicked in' with me ... man, I'll feel terrible.

But honestly. 5H? 8H?

Ugh.

If we want to track back to VENUS, (the conjunction's in TAU) then that's his 9H VENUS in LEO conjunct KARMA - conjunct MY NNODE.

My 12H VENUS is in his 12H, too.

I'm just not sure what to think. A lot's been getting me down. His 'usual avoidance' is feeling personal rather than commonplace (he's a schizoid workaholic, so, there's that). I was thinking - idly hoping, I suppose - that that wonderful gentlemanly consideration of his would continue.

Instead, I feel ... ignored. Disregarded. Unimportant.

posted January 25, 2014 06:48 PM            

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Cupido isn't a predator.

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No offence meant, but I really, really have to go with the majority on this. I've just not seen predatory expression of CUPIDO in anything I've studied.

Careless maybe, even id-oriented and pleasure-seeking without respect to consequences. But then I'm new to this guy. I'm used to EROS. So, I'm learning here.

Rather, I agree with you, summerlite, and don't see the predatory nature of CUPIDO in my own research.

posted January 25, 2014 06:51 PM            

Casanova 0 degree Leo 2nd opp. Vertex Aqua. In 8th

posted January 25, 2014 06:56 PM            

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Originally posted by olgatheo:
Cupid 28 Taurus in 12th sq. My nymph Leo 29 in 3rd.

Casanova 0 degree Leo 2nd opp. Vertex Aqua. In 8th

Dont know what to make of this :-D

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posted January 25, 2014 06:59 PM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:

Careless maybe, even id-oriented and pleasure-seeking without respect to consequences.

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posted January 25, 2014 06:59 PM            

I don't have much ego in my Astrology.

If people can put up the myths and it doesn't fit, then I will not have used it right.

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posted January 25, 2014 07:03 PM            

"Cupid and Psyche

Lucius Apuleius

A certain king and queen had three daughters. The charms of the two elder were more than common, but the beauty of the youngest was so wonderful that the poverty of language is unable to express its due praise. The fame of her beauty was so great that strangers from neighboring countries came in crowds to enjoy the sight, and looked on her with amazement, paying her that homage which is due only to Venus herself. In fact Venus found her altars deserted, while men turned their devotion to this young virgin. As she passed along, the people sang her praises, and strewed her way with chaplets and flowers.

This homage to the exaltation of a mortal gave great offense to the real Venus. Shaking her ambrosial locks with indignation, she exclaimed, "Am I then to be eclipsed in my honors by a mortal girl? In vain then did that royal shepherd, whose judgment was approved by Jove himself, give me the palm of beauty over my illustrious rivals, Pallas and Juno. But she shall not so quietly usurp my honors. I will give her cause to repent of so unlawful a beauty."

Thereupon she calls her winged son Cupid, mischievous enough in his own nature, and rouses and provokes him yet more by her complaints. She points out Psyche to him and says, "My dear son, punish that contumacious beauty; give your mother a revenge as sweet as her injuries are great; infuse into the bosom of that haughty girl a passion for some low, mean, unworthy being, so that she may reap a mortification as great as her present exultation and triumph."

Cupid prepared to obey the commands of his mother. There are two fountains in Venus's garden, one of sweet waters, the other of bitter. Cupid filled two amber vases, one from each fountain, and suspending them from the top of his quiver, hastened to the chamber of Psyche, whom he found asleep. He shed a few drops from the bitter fountain over her lips, though the sight of her almost moved him to pity; then touched her side with the point of his arrow. At the touch she awoke, and opened eyes upon Cupid (himself invisible), which so startled him that in his confusion he wounded himself with his own arrow. Heedless of his wound, his whole thought now was to repair the mischief he had done, and he poured the balmy drops of joy over all her silken ringlets.

Psyche, henceforth frowned upon by Venus, derived no benefit from all her charms. True, all eyes were cast eagerly upon her, and every mouth spoke her praises; but neither king, royal youth, nor plebeian presented himself to demand her in marriage. Her two elder sisters of moderate charms had now long been married to two royal princes; but Psyche, in her lonely apartment, deplored her solitude, sick of that beauty which, while it procured abundance of flattery, had failed to awaken love.

Her parents, afraid that they had unwittingly incurred the anger of the gods, consulted the oracle of Apollo, and received this answer, "The virgin is destined for the bride of no mortal lover. Her future husband awaits her on the top of the mountain. He is a monster whom neither gods nor men can resist."

This dreadful decree of the oracle filled all the people with dismay, and her parents abandoned themselves to grief. But Psyche said, "Why, my dear parents, do you now lament me? You should rather have grieved when the people showered upon me undeserved honors, and with one voice called me a Venus. I now perceive that I am a victim to that name. I submit. Lead me to that rock to which my unhappy fate has destined me."

Accordingly, all things being prepared, the royal maid took her place in the procession, which more resembled a funeral than a nuptial pomp, and with her parents, amid the lamentations of the people, ascended the mountain, on the summit of which they left her alone, and with sorrowful hearts returned home.

While Psyche stood on the ridge of the mountain, panting with fear and with eyes full of tears, the gentle Zephyr raised her from the earth and bore her with an easy motion into a flowery dale. By degrees her mind became composed, and she laid herself down on the grassy bank to sleep.

When she awoke refreshed with sleep, she looked round and beheld near a pleasant grove of tall and stately trees. She entered it, and in the midst discovered a fountain, sending forth clear and crystal waters, and fast by, a magnificent palace whose august front impressed the spectator that it was not the work of mortal hands, but the happy retreat of some god. Drawn by admiration and wonder, she approached the building and ventured to enter.

Every object she met filled her with pleasure and amazement. Golden pillars supported the vaulted roof, and the walls were enriched with carvings and paintings representing beasts of the chase and rural scenes, adapted to delight the eye of the beholder. Proceeding onward, she perceived that besides the apartments of state there were others filled with all manner of treasures, and beautiful and precious productions of nature and art.

While her eyes were thus occupied, a voice addressed her, though she saw no one, uttering these words, "Sovereign lady, all that you see is yours. We whose voices you hear are your servants and shall obey all your commands with our utmost care and diligence. Retire, therefore, to your chamber and repose on your bed of down, and when you see fit, repair to the bath. Supper awaits you in the adjoining alcove when it pleases you to take your seat there."

Psyche gave ear to the admonitions of her vocal attendants, and after repose and the refreshment of the bath, seated herself in the alcove, where a table immediately presented itself, without any visible aid from waiters or servants, and covered with the greatest delicacies of food and the most nectareous wines. Her ears too were feasted with music from invisible performers; of whom one sang, another played on the lute, and all closed in the wonderful harmony of a full chorus.

She had not yet seen her destined husband. He came only in the hours of darkness and fled before the dawn of morning, but his accents were full of love, and inspired a like passion in her. She often begged him to stay and let her behold him, but he would not consent. On the contrary he charged her to make no attempt to see him, for it was his pleasure, for the best of reasons, to keep concealed.

"Why should you wish to behold me?" he said. "Have you any doubt of my love? Have you any wish ungratified? If you saw me, perhaps you would fear me, perhaps adore me, but all I ask of you is to love me. I would rather you would love me as an equal than adore me as a god."

This reasoning somewhat quieted Psyche for a time, and while the novelty lasted she felt quite happy. But at length the thought of her parents, left in ignorance of her fate, and of her sisters, precluded from sharing with her the delights of her situation, preyed on her mind and made her begin to feel her palace as but a splendid prison. When her husband came one night, she told him her distress, and at last drew from him an unwilling consent that her sisters should be brought to see her.

So, calling Zephyr, she acquainted him with her husband's commands, and he, promptly obedient, soon brought them across the mountain down to their sister's valley. They embraced her and she returned their caresses.

"Come," said Psyche, "enter with me my house and refresh yourselves with whatever your sister has to offer."

Then taking their hands she led them into her golden palace, and committed them to the care of her numerous train of attendant voices, to refresh them in her baths and at her table, and to show them all her treasures. The view of these celestial delights caused envy to enter their bosoms, at seeing their young sister possessed of such state and splendor, so much exceeding their own.

They asked her numberless questions, among others what sort of a person her husband was. Psyche replied that he was a beautiful youth, who generally spent the daytime in hunting upon the mountains.

The sisters, not satisfied with this reply, soon made her confess that she had never seen him. Then they proceeded to fill her bosom with dark suspicions. "Call to mind," they said, "the Pythian oracle that declared you destined to marry a direful and tremendous monster. The inhabitants of this valley say that your husband is a terrible and monstrous serpent, who nourishes you for a while with dainties that he may by and by devour you. Take our advice. Provide yourself with a lamp and a sharp knife; put them in concealment that your husband may not discover them, and when he is sound asleep, slip out of bed, bring forth your lamp, and see for yourself whether what they say is true or not. If it is, hesitate not to cut off the monster's head, and thereby recover your liberty."

Psyche resisted these persuasions as well as she could, but they did not fail to have their effect on her mind, and when her sisters were gone, their words and her own curiosity were too strong for her to resist. So she prepared her lamp and a sharp knife, and hid them out of sight of her husband. When he had fallen into his first sleep, she silently rose and uncovering her lamp beheld not a hideous monster, but the most beautiful and charming of the gods, with his golden ringlets wandering over his snowy neck and crimson cheek, with two dewy wings on his shoulders, whiter than snow, and with shining feathers like the tender blossoms of spring.

As she leaned the lamp over to have a better view of his face, a drop of burning oil fell on the shoulder of the god. Startled, he opened his eyes and fixed them upon her. Then, without saying a word, he spread his white wings and flew out of the window. Psyche, in vain endeavoring to follow him, fell from the window to the ground.

Cupid, beholding her as she lay in the dust, stopped his flight for an instant and said, "Oh foolish Psyche, is it thus you repay my love? After I disobeyed my mother's commands and made you my wife, will you think me a monster and cut off my head? But go; return to your sisters, whose advice you seem to think preferable to mine. I inflict no other punishment on you than to leave you for ever. Love cannot dwell with suspicion." So saying, he fled away, leaving poor Psyche prostrate on the ground, filling the place with mournful lamentations.

When she had recovered some degree of composure she looked around her, but the palace and gardens had vanished, and she found herself in the open field not far from the city where her sisters dwelt. She repaired thither and told them the whole story of her misfortunes, at which, pretending to grieve, those spiteful creatures inwardly rejoiced.

"For now," said they, "he will perhaps choose one of us." With this idea, without saying a word of her intentions, each of them rose early the next morning and ascended the mountain, and having reached the top, called upon Zephyr to receive her and bear her to his lord; then leaping up, and not being sustained by Zephyr, fell down the precipice and was dashed to pieces.

Psyche meanwhile wandered day and night, without food or repose, in search of her husband. Casting her eyes on a lofty mountain having on its brow a magnificent temple, she sighed and said to herself, "Perhaps my love, my lord, inhabits there," and directed her steps thither.

She had no sooner entered than she saw heaps of corn, some in loose ears and some in sheaves, with mingled ears of barley. Scattered about, lay sickles and rakes, and all the instruments of harvest, without order, as if thrown carelessly out of the weary reapers' hands in the sultry hours of the day.

This unseemly confusion the pious Psyche put an end to, by separating and sorting everything to its proper place and kind, believing that she ought to neglect none of the gods, but endeavor by her piety to engage them all in her behalf. The holy Ceres, whose temple it was, finding her so religiously employed, thus spoke to her, "Oh Psyche, truly worthy of our pity, though I cannot shield you from the frowns of Venus, yet I can teach you how best to allay her displeasure. Go, then, and voluntarily surrender yourself to your lady and sovereign, and try by modesty and submission to win her forgiveness, and perhaps her favor will restore you the husband you have lost."

Psyche obeyed the commands of Ceres and took her way to the temple of Venus, endeavoring to fortify her mind and ruminating on what she should say and how best propitiate the angry goddess, feeling that the issue was doubtful and perhaps fatal.

Venus received her with angry countenance. "Most undutiful and faithless of servants," said she, "do you at last remember that you really have a mistress? Or have you rather come to see your sick husband, yet laid up of the wound given him by his loving wife? You are so ill favored and disagreeable that the only way you can merit your lover must be by dint of industry and diligence. I will make trial of your housewifery." Then she ordered Psyche to be led to the storehouse of her temple, where was laid up a great quantity of wheat, barley, millet, vetches, beans, and lentils prepared for food for her pigeons, and said, "Take and separate all these grains, putting all of the same kind in a parcel by themselves, and see that you get it done before evening." Then Venus departed and left her to her task.

But Psyche, in a perfect consternation at the enormous work, sat stupid and silent, without moving a finger to the inextricable heap.

While she sat despairing, Cupid stirred up the little ant, a native of the fields, to take compassion on her. The leader of the anthill, followed by whole hosts of his six-legged subjects, approached the heap, and with the utmost diligence taking grain by grain, they separated the pile, sorting each kind to its parcel; and when it was all done, they vanished out of sight in a moment.

Venus at the approach of twilight returned from the banquet of the gods, breathing odors and crowned with roses. Seeing the task done, she exclaimed, "This is no work of yours, wicked one, but his, whom to your own and his misfortune you have enticed." So saying, she threw her a piece of black bread for her supper and went away.

Next morning Venus ordered Psyche to be called and said to her, "Behold yonder grove which stretches along the margin of the water. There you will find sheep feeding without a shepherd, with golden-shining fleeces on their backs. Go, fetch me a sample of that precious wool gathered from every one of their fleeces."

Psyche obediently went to the riverside, prepared to do her best to execute the command. But the river god inspired the reeds with harmonious murmurs, which seemed to say, "Oh maiden, severely tried, tempt not the dangerous flood, nor venture among the formidable rams on the other side, for as long as they are under the influence of the rising sun, they burn with a cruel rage to destroy mortals with their sharp horns or rude teeth. But when the noontide sun has driven the cattle to the shade, and the serene spirit of the flood has lulled them to rest, you may then cross in safety, and you will find the woolly gold sticking to the bushes and the trunks of the trees."

Thus the compassionate river god gave Psyche instructions how to accomplish her task, and by observing his directions she soon returned to Venus with her arms full of the golden fleece; but she received not the approbation of her implacable mistress, who said, "I know very well it is by none of your own doings that you have succeeded in this task, and I am not satisfied yet that you have any capacity to make yourself useful. But I have another task for you. Here, take this box and go your way to the infernal shades, and give this box to Proserpine and say, 'My mistress Venus desires you to send her a little of your beauty, for in tending her sick son she has lost some of her own.' Be not too long on your errand, for I must paint myself with it to appear at the circle of the gods and goddesses this evening."

Psyche was now satisfied that her destruction was at hand, being obliged to go with her own feet directly down to Erebus. Wherefore, to make no delay of what was not to be avoided, she goes to the top of a high tower to precipitate herself headlong, thus to descend the shortest way to the shades below. But a voice from the tower said to her, "Why, poor unlucky girl, do you design to put an end to your days in so dreadful a manner? And what cowardice makes you sink under this last danger who have been so miraculously supported in all your former?" Then the voice told her how by a certain cave she might reach the realms of Pluto, and how to avoid all the dangers of the road, to pass by Cerberus, the three-headed dog, and prevail on Charon, the ferryman, to take her across the black river and bring her back again. But the voice added, "When Proserpine has given you the box filled with her beauty, of all things this is chiefly to be observed by you, that you never once open or look into the box nor allow your curiosity to pry into the treasure of the beauty of the goddesses."

Psyche, encouraged by this advice, obeyed it in all things, and taking heed to her ways traveled safely to the kingdom of Pluto. She was admitted to the palace of Proserpine, and without accepting the delicate seat or delicious banquet that was offered her, but contented with coarse bread for her food, she delivered her message from Venus. Presently the box was returned to her, shut and filled with the precious commodity. Then she returned the way she came, and glad was she to come out once more into the light of day.

But having got so far successfully through her dangerous task a longing desire seized her to examine the contents of the box. "What," said she, "shall I, the carrier of this divine beauty, not take the least bit to put on my cheeks to appear to more advantage in the eyes of my beloved husband!" So she carefully opened the box, but found nothing there of any beauty at all, but an infernal and truly Stygian sleep, which being thus set free from its prison, took possession of her, and she fell down in the midst of the road, a sleepy corpse without sense or motion.

But Cupid, being now recovered from his wound, and not able longer to bear the absence of his beloved Psyche, slipping through the smallest crack of the window of his chamber which happened to be left open, flew to the spot where Psyche lay, and gathering up the sleep from her body closed it again in the box, and waked Psyche with a light touch of one of his arrows. "Again," said he, "have you almost perished by the same curiosity. But now perform exactly the task imposed on you by my mother, and I will take care of the rest."

Then Cupid, as swift as lightning penetrating the heights of heaven, presented himself before Jupiter with his supplication. Jupiter lent a favoring ear, and pleaded the cause of the lovers so earnestly with Venus that he won her consent. On this he sent Mercury to bring Psyche up to the heavenly assembly, and when she arrived, handing her a cup of ambrosia, he said, "Drink this, Psyche, and be immortal; nor shall Cupid ever break away from the knot in which he is tied, but these nuptials shall be perpetual."

Thus Psyche became at last united to Cupid, and in due time they had a daughter born to them whose name was Pleasure.

Source: Thomas Bulfinch, The Age of Fable; or, Stories of Gods and Heroes (1855). Bulfinch's source is The Golden Ass (books 4-6) by the Roman writer Lucius Apuleius.
Lucius Apuleius was born about 124 in northern Africa and was educated in Carthage and Athens. The account of Cupid and Psyche is presented in his novel The Golden Ass (also titled The Metamorphoses) as an "old wive's tale" told by an old woman to comfort a young woman who has been abducted by a band of robbers and is being held for ransome.
In the main Bulfinch retells Apuleius' story with accuracy and sensitivity, but he does omit a few important details, for example:
Psyche is pregnant with Cupid's child throughout her search for her lost husband, a fact emphasized by Apuleius.
The cruel treatment meted out to Psyche by her mother-in-law Venus is substantially understated in Bulfinch's account.
Aarne-Thompson type 425A.
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posted January 25, 2014 07:06 PM            

Cupido: Vanity; concern about appearances (inc. the idea of keeping up appearances and doing things for the sake of appearances art and beauty interests; relationship concerns; attraction; the face or complexion; the look of something

I remember how I got it.

It was the LOOK of something it wasn't. That was what I took from it. Doing something that seemed like love on the face of it but wasn't.

Then, it seemed to fit like this when I did charts with Cupido.

Ceri
How would you make this asteroid practical? That would be my question. A person can quote the myths and debate them all day long, but these things have to work in the chart of an actual person or they have little practical value. Can you extract a practical meaning for Cupido from the text you quoted? If so, what would it be? Thanks.

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posted January 25, 2014 07:08 PM            

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Is your VX 0° AQU, Olga?

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posted January 25, 2014 08:27 PM            

It is how you enter the courtship-phase and how you seduce or/ and want to be seduced by someone else.
I am not entirely clear yet if Cupido is rather doing the attracting or being the attracted. In the myth it is mutual, though Cupido is FIRST attracted to Psyche and then uses his seductive appeal to attract her to him as well, but at the same time, though it starts with the "look" (though interestingly she is not allowed to see him), he wants more than that. He wants her to love him as an equal, nto put him onto a pedestal, adore or fear him like a God, which he is.

And then when he gets disappointed and thinks he can abandon her, he really can`t. He has fallen in love with her for real, something oing beyond the looks.

Anyway, let me give you an example:
My Mum has CUPIDO exactly conjunct Venus on 18 Virgo in 4th house.

She definitely is very attracted to grounded, supportive, wholesome, down-to-earth, practical, loyal people. Oh and Hygiene. LOL
She has a very sensitive sense of smell and taste, very Virgo-like.

She is also a very attractive woman still, and of course has been when being younger even more so, but there is something somehow "clean" and "clear" about her. Also she definitely uses her talent for cooking and other household-stuff to attract people to her (or people are attracted to her for that), not just in a sexual sense, but also friends and family.
However she is very adamant about things having to be done HER way, especially when it comes to cooking and cleaning up and these things.

There is also a quiet approachability and an unspoken supportive vibe she is emanating like saying silently: I am going to take the responsibility for you.
that makes people being pulled to her, though she is rather perfectionistic at the same time.

Very Virgo-like, definitely.

This Cupido-Venus is conjunct my Dad`s ASC and Saturn exactly. Of course it is sort of doubled (Cupido is a LIbra, per his discovery chart). It is difficult to say who attracts whom most, cause they are just simply very attracted to each other.
But I suppose his embodiment of the reasonable, stable, committed, grounded, practical, loyal partner does indeed attract her a lot to him.
They do have their differences temperamentwise (Scorpio vs Aquarius), but the chemistry, including this playful physical vibe, is still there, after 40 years of marriage.
It is maybe not that important, but they still love dancing with each other, and if they do, they look like they have been made for each other, for the harmonious grace they exhibit.

Maybe Cupido is part of this as well "dance of romanc" or something like that.

Another example

My friend`s Cupido-Venus-conjunction at the end of Sagittarius is trine her soulmate`s Cupido-Pluto-conjunction in Leo/Virgo closely, and from the beginning they have been totally enthralled with each other, and they are still as much in love and infatuated as ever.

Another friend of mine had been in a short affair with a guy whose Cupid was opposite her own, and the only reason she got together with him was their infatuation with each other.

There were no other aspects to their Cupids except for his Sun being square her Cupid (she might have been enthralled, but he wasn`t the right one).

He was emotionally manipulative and abusive; however his Cupido wasn`t figuring strongly in his own natal.
but his Nessus was cnojunct her ASC closely and squaring her Venus-Mars-Pluto.

posted January 25, 2014 08:30 PM            

You have a man come to you with Cupido conj the ASC and he asks you what it means. What do you say?

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posted January 25, 2014 08:37 PM            

Finally you found your way to me, Mr Law.

Seriously though I think there would be something very appealing about this man, maybe he would be handsome or exhibit a lot of charm, more in a playful, light way though. (unless this happens in Scorpio or Capricorn)
He would be quite attractive in terms of his appearance (which is more than looks, but of course could also include his looks) and might be appealing to quite a lot of people.

BTW Rudolpho Valentino had a Cupido-ASC-conjunction

To see what he himsel would be attracted to or how he would try to attract others to him (except for his self-presenatation - ASC) I would look for the close aspects of Cupido to other planets and the signbackground of course.

posted January 25, 2014 08:44 PM            

I am gonna stick to my meaning unless I have more evidence to the contrary but thank you for all your info, Ceri.

This is a cool way to work in here.

I am happy for this, just not the fighting we have had in the past making this Forum unpleasant.

Why fight when we are all trying to learn about a subject? It is silly

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posted January 25, 2014 09:14 PM            

One must get the shades of meaning in the asteroids and they are there.

One must use them in charts enough, as well as try to extract the essence from the myths.

No one is doing that out there but me, as far as I know, and I think it needs to be done. That is why I am doing it

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posted January 26, 2014 04:27 AM            

And for you being the only one researching asteroids: Quite the contrary, Ami.
I know several people who are doing theses researches. They just have a different form of sharing their findings than you do, and thus you might not have noticed it so far.

As for the delineation of asteroids.
Of course you can stick to the meanings you found, like in the case of Cupido him being a "knowingly deceptive player".

I personally think it is a misleading conclusion and inconsistent, but that is just MY opinion (based on the mythology, discovery-chart and check-up in natal and synastry charts I did).
So i am going to stick to my findings as you are going to stick to yours.

Nevertheless I found it important to share another perspective on this.

posted January 26, 2014 06:45 AM            

That was my point and I am glad we were able to show a great exchange of ideas with respect for each other. Agreement is not necessary.

That is exactly the model I see for this Forum and my point in all my posts. Thanks for showing us how it can be done, Ceri!

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posted January 26, 2014 07:12 AM            

At any rate, everyone's voice is wanted and welcomed on here, from the newest newbie to the advanced student.

We are all learning. There does not need to be a competition between us.

I like to have fun when I learn. That is my Gemini. Why make learning a drag or a competition.

Jump in, share, laugh, cry( sometimes) but make it a wonderful time!

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