posted January 24, 2014 08:38 PM            

People seem to like my bad boys series. In that spirit, I will add two more baddies. These are different in shade and subtlety. You will find that the asteroids have subtle meanings. This makes for a great deal of precise insight into the native. These two asteroids illustrate this.

Casanova(7328) likes to make conquests. The only opera I ever liked was Don Giovanni by Mozart. I had to write a 30 page paper on it in college. Hence, I learned to appreciate it. It was the story of a man who could seduce anyone. He could seduce nobility and the commoner. One woman loved him and she was shown the list of women he conquered by his servant in one of the most well known songs in the opera and in all of opera called The List.

Don Giovanni. was the opera version of Casanova. Don Giovanni, like Casanova, had no feeling for the women. After the conquest, they became burdensome. Such is the situation with the modern day Casanova. In common parlance, it is all about the chase.

I have not seen it fail that a man with Casanova conjunct the ASC or Sun will be a Casanova. I would go far as to say that this would include the North Node and Mars, too. Look up your guy’s charts, Women. If you are a guy, come on up and admit it

The List from Don Giovanni. Take a listen to the perfect song for Casanova.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0lN6SJkpBQ

Cupido

Cupido(763) differs from Casanova in his intent to deceive. The differences are subtle. Casanova lives for the chase. Cupido has more intent in the matter. He is seducing you while he knows he is just using you, in a cold blooded way. Casanova is all caught up in the chase. Casanova does love you during this time, if one uses the term love loosely. Casanova could have a love or sex addiction, in common parlance.

Cupido is just a cold blooded predator who knows what he is doing from the beginning to the end. The key phrase for Cupido is knowingly deceptive. Keep this in mind when you look up the Cupido asteroid in your favorite guy’s chart. Again, the most dominant placements for this to play out is Cupido conjunct the ASC, Mars, Sun or North Node.

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posted January 25, 2014 07:29 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
On what to do you base your interpretation of Cupido?

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The myth of Cupido is just like the story of Casanova. It is a myth which can be honed down to a trait, imo

I don't know if you saw my response to Deliah and Cata, Ceri.

There are many Astrologers on here with many different styles and ways they do astrology.

I am going to pay special attention to the people who appreciate my style because I only have limited time on here.

I am not going to fight with people who have differing styles.

There are many people they can serve with their approach.

People fighting about who sees it "right" is a waste of time.

I have been there and done that, so I know.

I am not saying you are fighting, Ceri. You are just asking but I am saying that I am going to do Astrology the way I see it for those who appreciate the way I do it.

For the others, I am going to hope they serve people here rather than trying to tell me they don't like how I do Astrology.

There are many knowflakes to serve. The ones who appreciate YOUR style will gravitate to you.

Let's serve them rather than comment on the styles and ways of doing Astrology of other Astrologers.

I am not saying you are doing that Ceri.

I am saying that this is a much more fruitful way to spend our limited time helping people on LL.

That is what I am about and I am sure you are, too, as well as everyone who is an Astrologer on here

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posted January 25, 2014 07:34 AM            

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posted January 25, 2014 07:46 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Your reaction to a simple question is interesting.

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It is not you, Ceri. It is the trend on here. People see the asteroids differently and the threads turn into fights.

That does no one any good. Let each person give HIS views and that is cool.

Let the people who like his views ask him questions.

I don't like the fighting between views of the Astrologers because it does no good.

The Forum is no fun if it turns into fights.

It has been trending that way. I want to be more active here and so want to just express how I think it would better serve LL.

It is not personal to you, Ceri. I am addressing a trend on here. That is all.

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posted January 25, 2014 07:50 AM            

If you and I start debating how we do Astrology, then that will break the great flow of this thread where everyone is having a great time.

It makes the Forum contentious and people are not served.

I want to spend my time with people and their charts, not debating if I am seeing the myth in all of it's proper lights.

The myths are complex. When I hone them down, I am sure I may miss things

However, honing them down makes them practical and I see value in that.

Anyway, I hope we can make this Forum the best it has ever been for everyone.

That is my goal and I am sure it is yours, Ceri dear

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posted January 25, 2014 07:59 AM            

If you would like to start a thread with how you see Cupido, that would be very cool and I would love to read it, too.

I just want to limit the debates on who sees it better on threads, which has started to trend in here.

I really hate that kind of thing because there is really no "right" way. The myths are complex.

I really want this Forum peaceful and I think we can make it that way if we seek to serve the Knowflakes not argue about who sees it better

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posted January 25, 2014 08:10 AM            

I want this to be a peaceful Forum. I want newbies to have fun with their Asteroids.

I don't want fiery debates on which Astrologer sees it better.

To this end, I think it would be better to have several threads on the same asteroid, so Knowflakes could choose which thread better served them.

That way, Knowflakes could come in here and be better served.

That way, each Astrologer could contribute the most to people. That is my goal of LL and yours, too, Ceri, as well as anyone who loves LL and wants to see it grow and flourish.

The new people are the heart of LL. If they see us warring over who has the "right" way to view asteroids, it is a big turn off

I am not saying this to YOU, Ceri. This has been the trend in here for some time.

I stopped coming in due to that. However, I want to come back and serve LL in this Forum.

As a Mod here, I am in a position to try to make the Forum the best for the Knowflakes.

That is my only goal in saying this. I, also, like to enjoy the Forum, too.

Astrologers debating who sees the asteroid better does not serve this end

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posted January 25, 2014 12:33 PM            

And I have Cupido trine my Asc, square chiron.

posted January 25, 2014 02:18 PM            

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Originally posted by Stawr:
Casanova makes no aspects in my chart.

And I have Cupido trine my Asc, square chiron.

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posted January 25, 2014 02:20 PM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Have you seen CUPIDO feature prominently in the charts of emotional predatory psychopaths?

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I really don't know this population really well lol

Why do you ask? What are your thoughts on it? Have you seen this?

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posted January 25, 2014 03:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries Eagle:
I have Casanova in first degree of Scorpio in 1st house. lol

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posted January 25, 2014 03:47 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

I really don't know this population really well lol

Why do you ask? What are your thoughts on it? Have you seen this?

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I'm studying it just now. Your description, 'predatory', made me instantly think of emotional predatory psychopaths. So, I was wondering if they figured prominently, as that would be most logical.

That, or in the west, indicating a person's preference for such types of relationship.

posted January 25, 2014 03:59 PM            

It is an uncaring way to approach love, for sure, but the people I have seen have not been sociopaths or uncaring in regular life, just this slice.

You are the writer, right? Are you researching?

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posted January 25, 2014 04:14 PM            

I have CUPIDO nearly exactly on my DSC, and opposite my VENUS. I can assure you I've never gone for the emotional predators. Plus, they take one look at me and cross the street. Too much Lilith, I guess. They know a sucker when they see one, and they make a wide berth for me!

Another thing which is curious is the EROS-CUPIDO parallel in a man I know very well. I'd say he's the consummate gentleman - arguably, to a fault. He isn't guileless, but deception is to be utilised in extreme circumstances - and never severely, or in matters of the heart. And NEVER with loved ones.

That he'd have a parallel of JUPITER, EROS, and CUPIDO seems rather ... bizarre. It'd almost be conjunct my CASANOVA, but it's too wide.

Now, it is conjunct his TISIPHONE. He has a great distaste, distain, and enmity for emotional predators. If he would, he'd destroy them all! Really! Not making any real links in his chart except to TISIPHONE, and an opposition to VESTA (12H). Curious, as she's all about the sacrosanct nature of sex.

Interestingly, though, is how my CASANOVA (8H) is almost exactly conjunct his NNODE (5H). His CASANOVA, incidentally, is 1H and waaaay OOB. 47N! Opposite his 8H PALLAS exactly. Loosely trine 5H EROS (2°). I think it's quindecile my NYMPHE-CERES, NESSUS and his DEJANIRA. My 5H, his 8H.

Wow. That's kind of a mess. Let's roll back.

posted January 25, 2014 04:21 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I have seen Cupido in regular people, so to speak, not sociopaths, per se.

It is an uncaring way to approach love, for sure, but the people I have seen have not been sociopaths or uncaring in regular life, just this slice.

You are the writer, right? Are you researching?

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I'm a writer, producer, therapist, scientist ... I do a lot! I'm ALWAYS researching. 😉 Love learning.

It's an interesting way to approach CUPIDO. If it's just in the area of matters of the heart, wouldn't that be CASANOVA? They're both not in it for possession, but for checking the box. But it seems CASANOVA is more ... emotional? Whereas CUPIDO is purely deceptive? Which is how emotional predators operate.