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Topic: Bad Boys Series: Casanova and Cupido
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JHade Newflake Posts: 11 From: Registered: Jan 2014
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posted January 29, 2014 09:41 AM
I have casanova in 1st house,cancer. Semisquare NorthNode. bi-quintile SouthNode. Square Saturn Square Venus Trine Jupiter. Trine Moon. Trine Midheaven.Cupido in 12th house,cancer. Trine SouthNode Sextile Northnode. Sextile mercury I'm wondering what does that meaning~^^ IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 8516 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted January 29, 2014 12:26 PM
What about Casanova conjunct Eros,Valentine and IC?Eros cap@9.00 Casanova cap@9.11 IC cap@9.47 Valentine cap@9.50 ----And---- Cupido scorpio@2.07 Kaali scorpio@2.15 Lilith scorpio@4.12--1st house Uranus scorpio@4.44--2nd house These aspects are mine....and I'd say I don't agree with your interp except that this place also exactly conjuncts my step-dad's last name...the one that was sadistically abusive to me! But as for me, I'm not like that at all! I'm very loving and I'm not out to hurt anyone! So I'm not sure, I wonder if you must look at aspects to see how Cupido will play out? Cupido is exactly square my Saturn and opposes my Philomela, Ophelia and Sedna....that's a really tough spot in my chart! So Cupido must be able to play a part here...the step dad was a charming guy, his way of manipulation was perfect and cunning! But I'm not that way! Maybe it's the Kaali that brings in the destruction/evil part to my story regarding this place in my chart? IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 8516 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted January 29, 2014 12:51 PM
This is iQ's quote on Cupido.... Cupido shoots the arrows of inititaing love. Eros and Cupido are the same being but the Human Consciousness associates cupid with a love initiator and that is the frequency that this Asteroid beams.His Cupido conjunct Venus means that he can always be spiced up by your charms, hairstyle, smile, batting eyelids, voice, your material values and all other Venus ruled attributes. Your Cupido conjunct his Mercury means you can always be romantically interested in him because of his wit, choice of words, knowledge and the use of his fingers, either on an instrument or even the way he massages your hair, shoulders etc etc etc.
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Linda Jones Knowflake Posts: 1768 From: Registered: Jan 2012
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posted January 31, 2014 03:50 PM
Cupido is not predatory. Madonna grinding up against Miley Cyrus on MTV is predatory ... Cyrus is young enough to be her granddaughter.Cupido is a little boy who shoots arrows into people's hearts. And because he doesn't have the fully developed brain or "wisdom" of an adult, his arrows are a hit or a miss, the odds being 50-50 of him getting it right ... this being reflected in the divorce rate, at least in America. But sometimes he does get it right and those are the soulmate couples Ceri has mentioned. When he doesn't get it right, people are more prone to a superficial romance based on physical attraction only ... politely called romantic love (it's really lust). It's up to people to discern the difference between lust and real love. Cupido is just doing what he's been assigned by Nature to do ... bringing people together. Imo, Nature is using Cupido to play a little trick on people ... get them attracted to each other. Human nature being what it is, how else would people get together in the first place?
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Linda Jones Knowflake Posts: 1768 From: Registered: Jan 2012
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posted January 31, 2014 04:16 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: As you know a lot of other aspects might modify this one, but as an isolated aspect I say:Finally you found your way to me, Mr Law. 
ROFL!! This is vintage Ceri! quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Nevertheless I found it important to share another perspective on this.
I for one am completely glad you're around to correct misinformation. quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Of course I could open a new thread about Cupido. But why should I ...
Exactly right! You're not trolling the thread, so why should you? quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Your reaction to a simple question is interesting.
Yes. Very. A lot of psychological projection, double talk, and "either you are for me or against me" approach. Below are examples of projection of hostile feelings ... from AA to Ceri, as a result of AA feeling threatened and insecure about the question Ceri asked---- quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: I am not going to fight with people who have differing styles.People fighting about who sees it "right" is a waste of time. I don't like the fighting between views of the Astrologers because it does no good. The Forum is no fun if it turns into fights. If you and I start debating how we do Astrology, ... I just want to limit the debates on who sees it better on threads, which has started to trend in here. I really hate that kind of thing ... I don't want fiery debates on which Astrologer sees it better. I am sure you are here to serve people, as I am, Ceri. Infighting does not do that. The Forum is no fun if it turns into fights. I really want this Forum peaceful and I think we can make it that way if we seek to serve the Knowflakes not argue about who sees it better The new people are the heart of LL. If they see us warring over who has the "right" way to view asteroids, it is a big turn off Why fight when we are all trying to learn about a subject? It is silly
Examples of double talk---
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: I am not saying you are fighting, Ceri.I am not saying you are doing that Ceri. I am saying that this is a much more fruitful way to spend our limited time helping people on LL. Again, I am not saying you did that but that has been happening on here with the different way people see the asteroids. Please, feel free to share how you see it. It would be easier if you did a separate thread so we don't turn it into arguing over how each person sees it or trying to see who has a better way of seeing it. It is not you, Ceri. It is the trend on here. People see the asteroids differently and the threads turn into fights. It is not personal to you, Ceri. I am addressing a trend on here. That is all. It makes the Forum contentious and people are not served. Anyway, I hope we can make this Forum the best it has ever been for everyone. That is my goal and I am sure it is yours, Ceri dear
Examples of hypocrisy--- quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: If you would like to start a thread with how you see Cupido, that would be very cool and I would love to read it, too.That is my goal and I am sure it is yours, Ceri dear I don't have much ego in my Astrology. That is what I am about and I am sure you are, too, as well as everyone who is an Astrologer on here I am sure you are here to serve people, as I am, Ceri. I think you would agree, Ceri, because you are a true teacher and a true helper. No one is doing that out there but me, as far as I know, and I think it needs to be done. That is why I am doing it That was my point and I am glad we were able to show a great exchange of ideas with respect for each other. Agreement is not necessary. That is exactly the model I see for this Forum and my point in all my posts. Thanks for showing us how it can be done, Ceri! At any rate, everyone's voice is wanted and welcomed on here,
Example of inserting a veiled assertion of power over Ceri who voluntarily stepped down from Modship about a year ago--AA is essentially saying "I am Mod, you are not, so I have more power than you." quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: As a Mod here, I am in a position to try to make the Forum the best for the Knowflakes.
Really?? The forum is made better or worse by the presence of each individual member who contributes to the collective energy of the forum. Instead of presumptuously assuming the responsibility of the entire forum's health, why not humbly try and always make sure you're not sucking the energy out of it, by endless projection onto others? It is this never ending projection that is tiresome to come across repeatedly. What is worse is that most of the time it is done passive aggressively, thereby instigating fights. Try and remember that the days of getting members banned by instigating fights are over (thanks to Randall's change in Mod policy), although you bear heavy karma for having done that to many. . . . ------------------ ~ I have a DO NOT DISTURB sign on my imagination ... because I want to frustrate the twins ... Convention and Dogma ~ The moment I cease to seek the truth, or settle for the truth in the moment ... that is the moment I cease to be a seeker, and become a fundamentalist instead. ~ The truest acts of charity are never disclosed ... they remain a secret between Man, the doer and God. Because Man knows that each charitable act is an opportunity for him to revel in God just as God avails of His chance to revel in Man through every act of charity. For them both to continue to rejoice in each other, Man knows he cannot allow worldly accolades to distract him. So he continues to act in kindness ... secretly. ~ True meditation is the correction and lifting of our thoughts … from fear, doubt, and insecurity to love, trust, and faith. ~ moi ~ IP: Logged |
MorpHnStorM Knowflake Posts: 376 From: Registered: Oct 2013
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posted February 02, 2014 06:08 AM
I have it like this:Casanova @ 17 Pisces, Lilith @ 16 Pisces, and Pallas @ 15 Pisces/10th house, opposite my Moon @ 16 Virgo. What do you think of this combo? Cupido is conjunct my Venus in Taurus/12th house by about 2 degrees.
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 67253 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 02, 2014 08:16 AM
quote: Originally posted by MorpHnStorM: I have it like this:Casanova @ 17 Pisces, Lilith @ 16 Pisces, and Pallas @ 15 Pisces/10th house, opposite my Moon @ 16 Virgo. What do you think of this combo? Cupido is conjunct my Venus in Taurus/12th house by about 2 degrees.
Let me think about this, my Friend. I have an appointment and will be back to post, for you.
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 67253 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 02, 2014 11:03 AM
quote: Originally posted by MorpHnStorM: I have it like this:Casanova @ 17 Pisces, Lilith @ 16 Pisces, and Pallas @ 15 Pisces/10th house, opposite my Moon @ 16 Virgo. What do you think of this combo? Cupido is conjunct my Venus in Taurus/12th house by about 2 degrees.
The most important thing here would be the opposition to the moon as personal planets and angles are the most important tier when dealing with asteroids. I would say that you have a conflict with a desire to be a casanova, as well as with your raw sexuality and what to do with that in terms of having vesta there, which is selfless giving, so I see a struggle betwenn self serving and selfish behavior. Does that fit?
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 67253 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 02, 2014 11:04 AM
Cupido conj Venus may make for the desire of relationships that have little depth but may appear to be something they are not.I will await your answers and be back! ------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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MorpHnStorM Knowflake Posts: 376 From: Registered: Oct 2013
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posted February 02, 2014 09:09 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: Cupido conj Venus may make for the desire of relationships that have little depth [u]but may appear to be something they are not[/u].I will await your answers and be back!
It's actually just the opposite; I only truly desire those involving deep/spiritual bonds. What do you mean by the underlined though? And would it be me who sees it a certain way like seeing it as more than what it really is? Maybe I attract people who are interested in the superficial types of relationships? My guess was that perhaps it adds a type of charm to my Venus; that I exude this charm, or that it's easier to charm others...and perhaps I could come off that way (superficial) when I am really not. Perhaps some people will respond accordingly (to the what appears as me being superficial, or being interested in the superficial); that is, I could attract those types, which would end up being my misfortune (not interested)... I have been told things like that; ex. "you could sell a snow cone in the middle of a blizzard", lol... IP: Logged |
MorpHnStorM Knowflake Posts: 376 From: Registered: Oct 2013
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posted February 02, 2014 09:39 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: The most important thing here would be the opposition to the moon as personal planets and angles are the most important tier when dealing with asteroids.I would say that you have a conflict with a desire to be a casanova, as well as with your raw sexuality and what to do with that in terms of having vesta there, which is selfless giving, so I see a struggle betwenn self serving and selfish behavior. Does that fit?
Thanks for your time. I have to think about that some more. It's Pallas that's involved, not Vesta (she's in Cancer/1st house). what you say about the struggle between serving others and serving my self is interesting though, as that has been an issue I've had to address these last couple of years. It's more a case of giving, giving, giving, and not taking care of myself though. The last couple of years, I've stepped back though, and have been focused on myself. It can come across as selfish to some, but I honestly don't give a eff because I know better...and I know what I need. I have to get to a place where I can serve and not be drained from it, or find myself in a place where I am being used/abused. [u]That[/u] is the balance I am finding, and I would say it is a [u]part[/u] of the Lilith-Pallas energy (and its attributes). As for Casanova, I am still trying to feel that one out... What would say of someone who has a Casanova on the NN with a Lilith on the SN in the natal? IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 67253 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 02, 2014 09:45 PM
MorphCupido could give you a carefree charm, I would think, as you said! ------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 67253 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 02, 2014 09:47 PM
What would say of someone who has a Casanova on the NN with a Lilith on the SN in the natal?I would say they are super comfortable with their sexuality but may also want to play in a casanova kind of way. To him, it was all about the chase. I think the person would have this tendency. Who is this? ------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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MorpHnStorM Knowflake Posts: 376 From: Registered: Oct 2013
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posted February 02, 2014 10:05 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: [b]What would say of someone who has a Casanova on the NN with a Lilith on the SN in the natal?I would say they are super comfortable with their sexuality but may also want to play in a casanova kind of way. To him, it was all about the chase. I think the person would have this tendency. Who is this? [/B]
That's interesting, thanks. It was taken from someone's chart (when I was running through charts some time ago). It's one I remembered, forgot who it belongs to though. It seems Lilith - South Node isn't all that uncommon though (at least I've noticed it a number of times). I'd have to run Casanova again, because I am having trouble remembering those placements who has them. Re. my own Casanova-Lilith-Pallas conj. In the context that it's being mentioned here (and the more negative interpretations/aspects), I think this has played out (in part) as being perceived by others as something that I am not...But the Lilith-Pallas alone, I strongly identify with the more positive attributes of these too. I'd had to get a better feel of Casanova to get a better over all idea of how it's figuring in here. IP: Logged |
Catalina Knowflake Posts: 3484 From: shamballa Registered: Aug 2013
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posted February 03, 2014 01:52 AM
You might find this interesting. It's a synopsis of Casanova's memoirs I found in a discussion about the British film Casanova with Peter OToole playing the dying man looking back at his life.It highlights the facts that while he was a womanizer he was much much more than "all about conquest".
And might deepen your understanding of the asteroid too.. The real Casanova was famous for being a great seducer, but it wasn't so much the number of women he bedded, as the way he did it that's remarkable. Scholars say he had just over 200 lovers,which isn't huge by the standards of someone like a successful contemporary rockstar. Bur Casanova was interested in every aspect of seduction and that included engaging the lady in discourse as well as showing her a good time between the sheets.He wouldn't bed any old bimbo.In an age when women had no right to a satisfying sex life,Casanova was well ahead of his time. He wasn't moralistic about women and their sexual behaviour, believing they had as much of a right to enjoy sex as men, something unheard of at the time.He was more concerned with giving one woman he really liked several orgasms during the course of one night, than bedding more women during that same night, just so he could add more notches to his bedpost. Also, it isn't true, as the movie adaptations say, that no woman could resist him, as some did reject him. Also oftentimes it was women who seduced him rather than the other way round, he was also duped and exploited by some of them,and he did meet many strong and intelligent women in his lifetime. Before you think I'm idealising him,let me say that he was also an appalling figure (again, something you never get a sense of in the mini-series) and was a living contradiction. He could be an exquisite gentleman and on other occasions, a rogue. He also spread std and unwanted pregnancies around Europe, though he did occasionally do his best to avoid fathering illegitimate children. But by his day's standards, Casanova was a man who genuinely loved and respected women,believing them to be rational creatures rather than bundles of hysteria and emotional fragility. It's difficult today to appreciate how revolutionary that was. Unlike proper cads, he remembered all his conquests as individuals, describing them in detail as thinking,feeling creatures one by one.He was also famously bisexual,something that the mini-series doesn't even hint at! Despite macho the stereotype, Casanova was actually worlds apart from this laddish model of masculinity. Though some scenes in the book are rather explicit, even shocking,he is never vulgar or gloating. He also saw the humour in sex.I even got my parents a copy of Casanova's Memoris, and they're in their late 60's! On the other hand,Tennant's Casanova occasionally comes across as smarmy,and the sex scenes are nothing special,just sex as anyone could have it. If you ever read the Memoirs, you'll never look back! Even the escape from prison is far more interesting in the book. Please do yourself a favour and skip this mini-series,as well as the Heath Ledger movie. Treat yourself to Casanova's autobiography instead,something I assure you you won't be regretting. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 67253 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 03, 2014 08:05 AM
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 67253 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 03, 2014 08:25 AM
Yes, Cata. That makes perfect sense. If a guy is gonna be that good with women, he has to have some soul( or fool people as to it) A guy who is that attractive to woman is not a dumb mannequin type  ------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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summerlite Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Jun 2014
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posted February 03, 2014 10:26 AM
Casanova is about the art of seduction. You should see Casanova's chart. lol.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 67253 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 03, 2014 10:32 AM
quote: Originally posted by summerlite: Casanova is about the art of seduction. You should see Casanova's chart. lol.
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MorpHnStorM Knowflake Posts: 376 From: Registered: Oct 2013
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posted February 03, 2014 06:44 PM
@ Catalina, that description is making a whoole lot of sense...Thanks for sharing.And omg at my chart! I just added the asteroids Lust, Nymph and Bacchus, and this is what I got: A T-square involving Nymph @ 20 Taur conj. my Sun exact, square Bacchus @ 20 Aqua, and my Mars @ 21 Scorp. A T-square involving Lust @16 Gem (12th house, 3 degrees from Asc.), Lilith @ 16 Pisces (with Casanova @ 17, and Pallas @ 15), and my Moon @ 16 Virgo. Good grief...Guess this could mean there's a hidden potential for sex addiction? Edit, here's another pattern: Amor @ 1 Taur/12th trine Eros-Neptune @ 2 Cap/7th, sextile Pluto @ 0 Scorp/5th, trine Juno @ 29 Gem, sextile Amore. Eros-Neptune is opp. Juno, and Pluto opp Merc. What would you say of this? Actually, I think I'll come back and make another thread for these since this is off topic. IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 8516 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted February 03, 2014 07:43 PM
@Catalina.... Thank you for your description of the true Casanova!!! That explains so much!!! When someone touches my Valentine, I want to do anything for them to make then happy sexually. It's like just seeing them feel excited like they never have before, the way others wouldn't do for them makes me crazy, I don't need any more! I could care less if it was returned, just seeing their mind blown was all I wanted and I was totally thrilled, that alone has made me go! I'm not like that with many people, only the ones who touch my my Valentine/Eros, people I'm deeply in love with and would want to be in my life forever! I've got to the point sex without that connection is so boring I don't even want sex unless they wake up that part of me! I'll go without for years before I'd give it up with someone who doesn't wake it up! I'd always thought it was Eros, I'm sure Eros adds to it a lot but that desire to make them crazy seems to come from Casanova....I had a guy who's Valentine conjunct my Valentine...his was Valentine cap@9.24, AC cap@13.53...his nick name is Yummy, of course!Eros cap@9.00 Casanova cap@9.11 IC cap@9.47 Valentine cap@9.50 To add to this my Lust cap@14.54 and Pluto libra@11.04 IP: Logged |
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posted February 04, 2014 07:46 PM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: ME!!!! Get me out of here!  But first, *wave* to you and Juni. Hi gals!
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 67253 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 04, 2014 07:52 PM
When someone touches my Valentine, I want to do anything for them to make then happy sexually. It's like just seeing them feel excited like they never have before, the way others wouldn't do for them makes me crazy, I don't need any more! What about the square? Any ideas how that would fit in here, Gabby?
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 67253 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 04, 2014 08:02 PM
quote: Originally posted by florence: well, im relatively new too and i feel like ami's posts get jumped on an awful lot - no wonder for the defensiveness. nearly every thread i've read lately there has been this and one was very harsh an attack. so, reading Ceridwen's posts am sure that was not meant as an attack at all. otoh it seems like ami's posts are always asked to be justified. what is it with seeing someone enjoy themselves that disgruntles people so much. is it the process of being a personal approach? or that she engages on that level. idk but as a point of balance i am sick of the constant focus on one member. if you look it is either provoked or defensive rather than attacking.
Thank you Florence dear.
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Gabby Moderator Posts: 8516 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted February 05, 2014 12:34 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: [b]When someone touches my Valentine, I want to do anything for them to make then happy sexually. It's like just seeing them feel excited like they never have before, the way others wouldn't do for them makes me crazy, I don't need any more! What about the square? Any ideas how that would fit in here, Gabby?
That was a great comment. Thanks for it. How is your daughter doing? [/B]
I think my Pluto adds a bit of a possessive jealous streak for anyone I give this part of myself to...it makes me want to give and give and give but also I don't want to share them....I want to put them on a pedestal and work on them until they are perfect!! I want to "perfect" them, so they are soooo happy they can't even think straight! Lol.....sick, I know! Don't forget my Sado is just 2 degrees from my Pluto! Lol In order to perfect them they would need to totally surrender to me....yes I know that isn't a good expectation and its quite a huge battle to, since I love rebellious men! Lol....but they love me to, theirs a lot of fights and a lot of making up! I've realized this part of me must be squashed for the sake of living day in day out, that intensity is to much everyday! I've outgrown the need to control.....I enjoy love much more than control and I realize they don't come in the same package . The intensity of the Pluto squared is really a bit insane and it's kind of addicting on both parts.....thank God for Valentine!!! Without it, it would always be a dramatic, intense, all consuming, but in the end a tragic love story! But Valentine keeps you forgiving and understanding...it's true love! Eros, squared Pluto keeps the make up sex hot and IC keeps them feeling like my family no matter how hard it gets! My daughter is doing much better!! Ty for asking! IP: Logged | |