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posted February 04, 2014 10:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Yep, it is true. [b]God will take care of it and that is really the best way. He promises He will and He will. Amen

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Wow 2 degrees away from the ASC. Can you relate? We have the same ASC. Don't we, Gabby




Yes, I think we are really close to the same AC! Where is your Sado?
I made a mistake my Sado is libra@9.05
My ascendant is Libra@8.44...pluto libra@11.04

I'm not sure what to make of Sado on my AC?
I'm not sadistic but ppl are afraid to upset me...dont really know why I've never done anything to anyone?
They say I just look like I would be really good at quietly plotting revenge in evil ways(I think that's Pluto)...but all I've ever done is walk away, even if someone says something straight to my face, I don't engage them.
I'm not going to give them any response because I'm not feeding into their insecurities, their need for attention is a cry for help, but if you try to help they would just turn on you!
Really, it's not kind to feed others insecurities and play mind games with people who don't even realize they are not using their minds to think with, it's not fair to them! Like a battle of wits with an unarmed person, it's just mean!
I'll help but you can't help people who are living through their sickness instead of trying to heal!
If they want to get a rise out of someone they need to look some place else....I don't feed peoples mental issues!
Normally they don't want help they want an excuse for the extreme feelings they have, they want to get a rise out of you so you will overreact and be as extreme as they are then they can feel justified in their feelings! It's a sickness!
I'm not playing games with others peoples fears and insecurities....I feel bad for them because it hurts to be where they are!

So I'm not sure how Sado plays in here...maybe I see life and others through Sado, I see where peoples pain and fears have twisted who they are. changed them and made them a bit off or sadistic within themselves?
I don't play with people ghosts, what haunts others needs to stay in their head, it's not getting into mine!

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ami Anne:
[b] Wow 2 degrees away from the ASC. Can you relate? We have the same ASC. Don't we, Gabby




Yes, I think we are really close to the same AC! Where is your Sado?
I made a mistake my Sado is libra@9.05
My ascendant is Libra@8.44...pluto libra@11.04

I'm not sure what to make of Sado on my AC?
I'm not sadistic but ppl are afraid to upset me...dont really know why I've never done anything to anyone?
They say I just look like I would be really good at quietly plotting revenge in evil ways(I think that's Pluto)...but all I've ever done is walk away, even if someone says something straight to my face, I don't engage them.
I'm not going to give them any response because I'm not feeding into their insecurities, their need for attention is a cry for help, but if you try to help they would just turn on you!
Really, it's not kind to feed others insecurities and play mind games with people who don't even realize they are not using their minds to think with, it's not fair to them! Like a battle of wits with an unarmed person, it's just mean!
I'll help but you can't help people who are living through their sickness instead of trying to heal!
If they want to get a rise out of someone they need to look some place else....I don't feed peoples mental issues!
Normally they don't want help they want an excuse for the extreme feelings they have, they want to get a rise out of you so you will overreact and be as extreme as they are then they can feel justified in their feelings! It's a sickness!
I'm not playing games with others peoples fears and insecurities....I feel bad for them because it hurts to be where they are!

So I'm not sure how Sado plays in here...maybe I see life and others through Sado, I see where peoples pain and fears have twisted who they are. changed them and made them a bit off or sadistic within themselves?
I don't play with people ghosts, what haunts others needs to stay in their head, it's not getting into mine![/B][/QUOTE]

Hi gabby, your def. Not the Sado person more like projection , others have been sadistic towards u my friend!!!!
your awesome after what u been through , you have not that affect your soul

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posted February 05, 2014 08:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My ASC is Libra 7

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posted February 05, 2014 08:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is why we all get along so well

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posted February 05, 2014 09:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are very right, Stawr. People were not meant to carry pain, angst and resentment on their shoulders. The fragile human cannot bear it

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@olgatheo, thank you!! Sometimes I see Sado on my AC and scratch my head!! Lol
I think your right....I have seen life through some very sadistic eyes, but they weren't mine! I lived out their projections, through what they did to me until I realized what I was doing to myself, I was continuing the abuse they had started!
Maybe that's why I see so easily where peoples pain has changed and twisted them, how they are acting on beliefs that are not their own and destroying themselves!
It's such a hard place to be because it's nearly impossible to see....it takes an 'earth shaking' wake up call to move those kind of blinders from peoples eyes!
To me that's why so many relationships fail, ppl walk into them looking for a person to fill a role or play a certain part in the cycle of pain thats already been playing out in their heads, instead of looking for someone to be their friend and companion in the life they will make together!

I guess that's why I avoid ppl!! Lmao!

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My ASC is Libra 7


Oh, ya!! I used to think my birth time was 2:40, as it said on a duplicate of my birth certificate but when i found my original birth certificate, my real birth time was 2:48, changed my AC from libra@7.05 to libra@8.44!

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posted February 05, 2014 09:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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AmiAnne.
He has Nessus conjunct my Mars
Me has nessus conjunct his ascendant and sun (tho I dont think I abuse him least I dont think so is nessus physical abuse/mental?

I have Dejanira conjunct Chiron in the 9th house gemini and HE has his Lust conjunct both my chiron and dejanira. How would that play out?

He has his Sado in the 2nd Libra conjunct my Sun Libra in the 12th.

He has his Bacchus conjunct his venus in HIS 2nd house which in synastry both conjunct my venus in the 12th all this is in Libra. So how can I interpret Bacchus conjunct Libra in synastry?

MY Bacchus conjuncts his IC :/

His casanova is conjunct my MC as well as his chion..meaning natally he has chiron conjunct casanova.

MY casanova conjunct his pluto but its more than 2 degrees apart.

I have proserpina conjunct casanova natally. Both conjuncting his pluto synastry. More than 2 degrees apart though.

HE has proserpina conjunct his MC

I have nemesis 11th house leo conjunct his nymph 12 house leo XD dont know how that would play out.

HE has nemesis and dejanira conjunct his IC thankfully no conjunctions from his side to mine. But I wonder how that would affect him with those two conjuncting tightly his IC :/

I have lust and nymph conjunct natally both conjuncting his north node..he is not going to take me to meet his mom is he??

He has prey conjunct nessus conjuncting my mars synastry...meaning HE is MY prey? but in turn HE abuses my mars?? my drive???

My prey conjuncts his DC thats the one I need clarification on. If I am the prey conjuncting HIS DC then he might hunt me down for marriage/partnerships? I hope so lol :P

What do you think of my aspects AmiAnne, crazy huh? :/



I just saw this, Julz. Let me look tomorrow. I quote it so I would be sure to be reminded!

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posted February 06, 2014 01:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlackSeraph     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, this makes things interesting looking at my chart and a few aspects to a few other people's charts I know...

Seems I have Prey in my Mars/Pluto/Venus stellium, right between the Pluto/Venus part. Stellium's square my Nessus as well.

Best friend's Nemesis is a little more than a degree off of my Midheaven, and closer still to my Apophis. Still not close or trusting of him after the whole thing involving a woman. He also has Nessus conjunct Lust in his chart (squaring my Mars no less), about 2 degrees or so off of my natal Nessus/Sirius.

The woman in question? As far as I can tell (I don't have birthtimes for a few women I've had an interest in), her Bacchus conjuncts my North Node (yes, she was heavily into a particular "herb" of which my overall experience with her has cured almost any desire of me partaking in), and her North Node was almost 2 degrees off of my Karma/Algol. Also, the major red flag I just looked at: Her Nessus tightly conjunct on my Nemesis.

I had another woman I was interested in dating that had Algol rising, again on my Karma... and interestingly enough my job's beginning chart also has Algol rising. Exit from that job's been delayed due to recent medical stuff.

The college ex? Her Mars square my Sun/Saturn, Sesquiquadrate my Mars/Pluto/Venus (and almost exactly sesquiquadrate by estimates my Prey). Her Sado/Nessus was square my Pluto/Prey/Venus portion of that stellium too. (Not that it went to quite that level). Interestingly enough, like my best friend, she also had her Nemesis conjunct my Midheaven/Apophis. Her Nymphe/Pholus was also on my South Node (which is 2 degrees from fixed star Scheat, which my best friend's Sun/Lucifer conjuncts). Her Casanova also conjuncted my Ixion, opposed my Moon/Chiron and was 2 degrees from conuncting my natal Uranus. Her Proserpina on my natal Ceres as well.

My most recent ex has Nessus conjunct Dejanira, 3 degrees from her Mars... her Mars being almost exact on my Nessus. Another friend of mine who gets involved in this particular sordid tale has his Sun on my Nessus/her Mars, his Dejanira on my South Node, His Nymphe on my Venus... and no major Nemesis contacts between this friend and me.

In all of this I never even considered that I have Nessus trine Uranus in my natal.

What a mess.

I tend to also use 99942 Apophis in some charts I use. (Seems to represent destruction. Mark Andrew Holmes on his website has a few examples of this, one of which was prominent in the chart of a demolitions expert so Apophis isn't always negative). Has this one played out in anyone's synastry to your knowledge?

So a couple take-aways is: How do synastry charts stack up in love/business/etc triangles? And does Algol (~25-26 Taurus) have prominence in troublesome synastries in your cases?

Ami, based on what I just looked up in these charts, I do have to agree. Charts do have a tendency to play out and hindsight's 20/20 as they say.

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posted February 06, 2014 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Originally posted by Julz87:
AmiAnne.
He has Nessus conjunct my Mars
Me has nessus conjunct his ascendant and sun (tho I dont think I abuse him least I dont think so is nessus physical abuse/mental?

I have Dejanira conjunct Chiron in the 9th house gemini and HE has his Lust conjunct both my chiron and dejanira. How would that play out?

He has his Sado in the 2nd Libra conjunct my Sun Libra in the 12th.

He has his Bacchus conjunct his venus in HIS 2nd house which in synastry both conjunct my venus in the 12th all this is in Libra. So how can I interpret Bacchus conjunct Libra in synastry?

MY Bacchus conjuncts his IC :/

His casanova is conjunct my MC as well as his chion..meaning natally he has chiron conjunct casanova.

MY casanova conjunct his pluto but its more than 2 degrees apart.

I have proserpina conjunct casanova natally. Both conjuncting his pluto synastry. More than 2 degrees apart though.

HE has proserpina conjunct his MC

I have nemesis 11th house leo conjunct his nymph 12 house leo XD dont know how that would play out.

HE has nemesis and dejanira conjunct his IC thankfully no conjunctions from his side to mine. But I wonder how that would affect him with those two conjuncting tightly his IC :/

I have lust and nymph conjunct natally both conjuncting his north node..he is not going to take me to meet his mom is he??

He has prey conjunct nessus conjuncting my mars synastry...meaning HE is MY prey? but in turn HE abuses my mars?? my drive???

My prey conjuncts his DC thats the one I need clarification on. If I am the prey conjuncting HIS DC then he might hunt me down for marriage/partnerships? I hope so lol :P

What do you think of my aspects AmiAnne, crazy huh? :/

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HE has nemesis and dejanira conjunct his IC thankfully no conjunctions from his side to mine. But I wonder how that would affect him with those two conjuncting tightly his IC :/

I have to take one thing at a time. Did he have really bad abuse?

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posted February 06, 2014 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I tend to also use 99942 Apophis in some charts I use. (Seems to represent destruction. Mark Andrew Holmes on his website has a few examples of this, one of which was prominent in the chart of a demolitions expert so Apophis isn't always negative). Has this one played out in anyone's synastry to your knowledge?

Black Seraph
I never used this one. I will add it to my list and research it as it sounds important.

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posted February 06, 2014 02:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So a couple take-aways is: How do synastry charts stack up in love/business/etc triangles? And does Algol (~25-26 Taurus) have prominence in troublesome synastries in your cases?

Ami, based on what I just looked up in these charts, I do have to agree. Charts do have a tendency to play out and hindsight's 20/20 as they say.

In many people's opinions and I would agree, Algol is the worst fixed star and will play out.
I am with you, my Friend, in that everything will play out

If you want me to look at a synastry, post it in the Beginner's Forum with attention to me. I very much appreciate having you here in the Asteroid Forum, Black Seraph!

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posted February 06, 2014 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Julz
When you come back, keep it bumped up for me so I am sure to see your posts! xx

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posted February 06, 2014 07:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReeseC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just want to say that this thread gave me the courage to finally decide to move on from a very violent marriage. For so long, I kept thinking I could change my husband and love him despite but after seeing these asteroids in aspect to our charts, I've realized that I need to stop feeling guilty for giving up, and move on. Thank you to whoever wrote it.

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posted February 06, 2014 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome Reese and I am so very, very glad you posted. Let me look

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posted February 06, 2014 07:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Who is on the outside, My Friend. Also, could you try to make the chart clearer. These blurry ones make me car sick and I really want to spend time on it for you!

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posted February 06, 2014 07:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReeseC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Who is on the outside, My Friend. Also, could you try to make the chart clearer. These blurry ones make me car sick and I really want to spend time on it for you!

Forgot about this

I'm sorry; it keeps blurring up. Here is the link, if you don't mind

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posted February 06, 2014 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why don't you give me the link and I will go there and can make it bigger etc.

It is too small now lol

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Interesting topic
Proserpina (asteroids and point) seems to be prominent in my chart
Sado is in 12H
and Prey is conjunct Apollonas

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Man I looked and that is some synastry! Wow, i could not look long with the blur cuz it makes me feel sick but I could see the intensity.

I will look more when I get the link and will ask you some questions

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Man I looked and that is some synastry! Wow, i could not look long with the blur cuz it makes me feel sick but I could see the intensity.

I will look more when I get the link and will ask you some questions



http://tinypic.com/r/2rxziip/8.....here is the link. I knew it was bad, but that bad....oh no.

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posted February 06, 2014 09:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can't get it bigger. I did see enough to see some things. I am very honest, so I want to say that up front. I believe that truth is love and I say truth as I see it.
. If you can get the chart big, I will go over it with you.
The blurry one makes me sick to the extent that I can't meditate on it and the small one it too small.

In the blurry one, I did see your Deja conj something in his chart, maybe Lust. If this was the case, I wonder if he is sexually abusive? I bet this may be what is so hard for you and maybe what you saw when you read my article.

Please try to make it big and we can go over it in more detail, my Friend

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