posted September 24, 2014 10:46 AM
"In natal, NEMESIS represents where we are our own worst enemy, a type of divine retribution for our own hubris, and consequence for persisting in our bad habits. House placement is important, as it exposes where our Achilles heel is.In synastry, I think it relates more to the planet person exposing or agitating these bad habits, and the NEMESIS native must either overcome and recognize their weakness, or suffer for it. NEMESIS herself doesn't seem to represent an "external" foe, but an "internal" one that is woken up in synastry, and she is prone to pointing fingers and pinning the blame elsewhere, because the native doesn't want to take responsibility.
I think the planet person unwittingly hurts the NEMESIS person in their efforts to address the problem. I dated someone who had NEMESIS in their 1H, and also conjunct my SUN. This person was an identical twin, and always self-judging based off that. I tried infusing ego (SUN) to help, but since NEMESIS is a lifelong battle, it drained me quite a bit. I eventually left. My own MARS-NEMESIS made that call for different reasons." -Blind Writer
"Yes, she is like the dark sister of FORTUNA/TYCHE. NEMESIS is readily interpreted in natal conjunctions to planets, luminaries, and angles, because she draws out the negative of what she touches. When the native misuses or ignores their planetary/house energies, she is quick to mete out punishment, which is why I indicated an "internal" foe earlier. We are naturally fortunate with our planetary placements, as that is where the planet "works best/most prominently", by sheer nature of it being placed there. FORTUNA instantly rewards our efforts using the energies positively, while NEMESIS is just as quick to punish our misdeeds. What's really interesting is when FORTUNA (19) and NEMESIS (128) make contact in the natal. FORTUNA always wins out, in the end.
Synastry is trickier, because it's more difficult to discern if the NEMESIS native will lash out in indignation like a bucking bull, or if the planet native will join hands with NEMESIS to administer punishment. It depends on the NEMESIS native, I feel, that will determine the nature of how things will ultimately play out. If NEMESIS is suppressed, I see a rewarding and fulfilling relationship between the two people, because they are truly working together fruitfully. But if NEMESIS persists, she finds any and all ways to sabotage the relationship.
The trick is to find out how the mixing energies will manifest.
An "external" or literal nemesis may be indicated with NEMESIS, but I think this should be supported by other prominent placements, like NESSUS (7066), DEJANIRA (157), APOPHIS (99942), CHIRON or other related "bad" asteroids. Perhaps even 12H placements, 12R hard aspects, and conjunctions to Arabic Parts of Secret Enemies, Enmity, Deceit, Peril, Retribution, Self-Undoing, Slander, Treachery, Violence, etc." -Blind Writer
Thanks again Blind Writer!
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128 Nemesis (Greek):
Nemesis was the Goddess of indignation against, and retribution for, evil deeds and undeserved good fortune. She was a personification of the resentment aroused in men by those who commited crimes with apparent impunity, or who had inordinate good fortune.
Nemesis directed human affairs in such a way as to maintain equilibrium. Her name means "she who distributes or deals out". Happiness and unhappiness were measured out by her, care being taken that happiness was not too frequent or too excessive. If this happened, Nemesis could bring about losses and suffering. As one who checked extravagant favours by Tyche (Goddess of Fortune), Nemesis was regarded as an avenging or punishing divinity.
In myth Nemesis was particularly concerned with matters of love. She appears as an avenging agent in the stories of Narkissos and Nikaia, whose callous actions brought about the death of their wooers. In some versions of the Trojan War, she was the mother of Helene, and is shown in scenes of her seduction by Paris pointing an accusing finger at the girl.
Nemesis was often sometimes depicted as a winged Goddess. Her attributes were apple-branch, rein, lash, sword, or balance. Her name was derived from the Greek words nemêsis and nemô, meaning "dispenser of dues." The Romans usually used the Greek name of the Goddess, but sometimes also called her Invidia (Jealousy) and Rivalitas (Jealous Rivalry).
Nemesis is most commonly described as a daughter of Night, though some call her a daughter of Erebus or of Oceanus. Nemesis is a personification of the moral reverence for law, of the natural fear of committing a culpable action, and hence of conscience, and for this reason she is mentioned along with Aidôs, i. e. Shame. In later writers, as Herodotus and Pindar, Nemesis is a kind of fatal divinity, for she directs human affairs in such a manner as to restore the right proportions or equilibrium wherever it has been disturbed; she measures out happiness and unhappiness, and he who is blessed with too many or too frequent gifts of fortune, is visited by her with losses and sufferings, in order that he may become humble, and feel that there are bounds beyond which human happiness cannot proceed with safety. This notion arose from a belief that the Gods were envious of excessive human happiness. Nemesis was thus a check upon extravagant favours conferred upon man by Tyche or Fortune, and from this idea lastly arose that of her being an avenging and punishing power of fate, who, like Dike and the Erinyes, sooner or later overtakes the reckless sinner.
The inhabitants of Smyrna worshipped two Nemeses, both of whom were daughters of Night. She is frequently mentioned under the surnames Adrasteia and Rhamnusia or Rhamnusis, the latter of which she derived from the town of Rhamnus in Attica, where she had a celebrated sanctuary. Besides the places already mentioned she was worshipped at Patrae and at Cyzicus. She was usually represented in works of art as a virgin divinity, and in the more ancient works she seems to have resembled Aphrodite, whereas in the later ones she was more grave and serious, and had numerous attributes. But there is an allegorical tradition that Zeus begot by Nemesis at Rhamnus an egg, which Leda found, and from which Helena and the Dioscuri sprang, whence Helena herself is called Rhamnusis. On the pedestal of the Rhamnusian Nemesis, Leda was represented leading Helena to Nemesis. The Rhamnusian statue bore in its left hand a branch of an apple tree, in its right hand a patera, and on its head a crown, adorned with stags and an image of victory. Sometimes she appears in a pensive standing attitude, holding in her left hand a bridle or a branch of an ash tree, and in her right a wheel, with a sword or a scourge.
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Lindaland
posted September 24, 2014 10:46 AM
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