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Ami Anne
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posted February 08, 2014 11:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Faery, Thank you so much, dear one. Well, 3 degrees is wide for an asteroid. Some people would not count it at all, so that is prolly why you did not feel it. You are fortunate because no one wants this one lol

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posted February 09, 2014 05:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Something about this struck a cord with me. I remember around age 8 or 9 looking into the mirror and for the first time really acknowledging my existence. It was weird. It was like I just realized what I looked like and felt there, like really there, for the first time ever. I hope that made sense.


I completely get what you are saying....completely!!
I remember a day when I looked in the mirror around age 4 or 5 and I saw myself, I know you know what u mean! Others see themselves everytime they look in a mirror but not us! We look we look in the mirror to make sure we were acceptable we never looked in the mirror to see a person standing there...it was only to make sure the tool we were, whatever purpose we served for others was in the condition it was expected to be in!
WE didn't exist...only our service or purpose to others existed, even inside us...we were nothing but a tool to be used and we only took care if ourselves to make sure that tool(us) was in working condition!

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posted February 09, 2014 05:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faery:
Something about this struck a cord with me. I remember around age 8 or 9 looking into the mirror and for the first time really acknowledging my existence. It was weird. It was like I just realized what I looked like and felt there, like really there, for the first time ever. I hope that made sense.


I completely get what you are saying....completely!!
I remember a day when I looked in the mirror around age 4 or 5 and I saw myself, I know you know what u mean! Others see themselves everytime they look in a mirror but not us! We look we look in the mirror to make sure we were acceptable we never looked in the mirror to see a person standing there...it was only to make sure the tool we were, whatever purpose we served for others was in the condition it was expected to be in!
WE didn't exist...only our service or purpose to others existed, even inside us...we were nothing but a tool to be used and we only took care if ourselves to make sure that tool(us) was in working condition!

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posted February 09, 2014 05:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hi Gabby,

It's interesting that you have those asteroids in virgo. Mine are actually in pisces.
- Child 22.46 pisces
- Dejanira 19.38
- I also have a virgo moon and it's exactly opposite my Child asteroid.

To be honest I have no idea how to interpret the aspect. I was kinda thinking of child representing my own child which is why I was nervous that Dejanira was conjunct it. But I don't have any children so maybe that was a stretch.


Interesting....my moon virgo@18.40
Child is you!!

Child opposed moon is an aspect that would make it hard to connect emotions to your chldhood...perhaps numb would be a feeling to describe how you feel about your childhood?
There's a lot you know logically you need to feel but you can't connect to the feelings....you will eventually!
Were is your asteroid Deprez-9795??
It's a good indication of what you need to do to let go of your pain and start feeling again!

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Ami Anne my Nemesis conjuncts my guy's desc.
I know I hurt him very badly many years ago n broke his heart all because of something stupid i said.I dont think he hated me then but he was extremely miserable.Now that we r together will this aspect play out again n again?

I hope u will take the time to answer this. Thank u.

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posted February 09, 2014 07:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by geminigal2805:
Ami Anne my Nemesis conjuncts my guy's desc.
I know I hurt him very badly many years ago n broke his heart all because of something stupid i said.I dont think he hated me then but he was extremely miserable.Now that we r together will this aspect play out again n again?

I hope u will take the time to answer this. Thank u.



Wow, great question. I really don't know my friend. I don't want to say anything that will be discouraging but I will give my honest answer as if I were in your shoes.

If I loved the person, I would not let this turn me away but I would WATCH it as it is an energy and the energy of your hurting him and not being on his side.

I would be aware of it and vigilant about it. That would be the best way to deal with it. I think you WILL feel the urges to hurt him but you can force yourself to pull back and not do it.

You could even tell him about it, so he would know.

I would be open about it, if I could. I do think that all our energies are there from our charts but we do have a free will, too.


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Ami, thank G-d for you and your prolific writing and your Gemini-driven need to inform. Really, I mean that.

I had not even thought about Nemesis when I play around with synastries. Now, thanks to you, I punched it into a synastry with the man I'm currently obsessing over, and whaddya know?

I must say, though, although I don't have either of my parents' TOB's, I have played around with the charts enough to have settled on good theoretical charts for both of them. And I have prominent Nemesis contacts with both of them. Oy vey!

Worse than anything, though, is that with my son, whose TOB I know of course, my Nessus (moving on to another asteroid) exactly conjunct his AC. That makes me very sad, because there have been times since he became a toddler when he has gotten on my very last nerve and I have lashed out verbally in a way that I knew, a few seconds later, that I had really been excessively harsh. And he remembers every incident, of course, and holds each and every one against me. And will never forget. So the only thing left for me to do is try very very very hard in future interactions to curb my tongue. The funny thing is, most people consider me a sweet and compassionate person, and I am this way with my son mostly, but every once in a blue moon, this other nasty being takes over and I just say things I really ought not to. Scary.

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posted February 09, 2014 08:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Crabby dear. You made my day and I mean that from the bottom of my heart.


AS to your son. Yikes. Someone else has the same kind of thing and was troubled.

You did not choose your charts but you KNOW. That is better than most people and so you can force yourself to hold back when you want to lash out.

When he gets older, you can discuss the charts with him, too

Love yo, Crabby! xxx

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posted February 09, 2014 09:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for crabbypatty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
right back at ya with the love, Ami!

Yes, at least I have the awareness, so I can try to curb the monster within. And I have to tell you that since my sun progressed into Sag and my rising into Aries, I roar a whole lot louder and more frequently, with very little provocation needed. You should be a fly on my wall. You'd be entertained!

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posted February 09, 2014 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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right back at ya with the love, Ami!

Yes, at least I have the awareness, so I can try to curb the monster within. And I have to tell you that since my sun progressed into Sag and my rising into Aries, I roar a whole lot louder and more frequently, with very little provocation needed. You should be a fly on my wall. You'd be entertained!


Well, only if you would be a fly on my wall, Crabby. It's only fair

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Thank you for you reply Ami. I read about nemesis in your website. My Sun n Nemesis conjuncts his Desc.This is weighing heavily on me. As a person I tend to forgive n forget readily. But my guy doesnt. He is a very stubborn person. We discussed this n he said he saw me as a heartbreaker cuz i was flighty n irresponsible. Nowadays i am more grounded. Like u im an earth void Ami.He said he adjusts for me n will always do it as long as I love him n be with him. He is a Taurean.
I believe in free will but this aspect makes me so nervous. Arrrghhhh.

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Wow, Ami.

With my ex-husband, his Prey on my Sun, 1 degree away.

Tell me the truth, was he my prey, or was I his prey? I don't want you to sugarcoat!

Whaddya think?

This one is blowing my mind beyond any other astrological revelation so far.

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posted February 10, 2014 11:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Wow, Ami.

With my ex-husband, his Prey on my Sun, 1 degree away.

Tell me the truth, was he my prey, or was I his prey? I don't want you to sugarcoat!

Whaddya think?

This one is blowing my mind beyond any other astrological revelation so far.



I am so glad you came back cuz I had you on my mind, Crabby.


AS far as Prey, the prey person preys on the planet person.


There is an asteroid, Plunge, too. You should get it out. I am not sure of the number right now.

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Hmmm, Ami, I am beginning to wonder about that Nessus. Maybe it has different meanings than just being about abuse. Maybe?

PLEASE DON'T QUOTE - I AM GOING TO EDIT THIS OUT TOMORROW:

I just did the synastry between me and a woman. She is the wife of that inmate I am helping out. I have not only helped him, I have helped her, as well, over the past couple of years. I send her money for basic necessities when she tells me she's broke. We talk on the phone once or twice a week. It feels very close. Well, anyway, now I see that her Prey is on her ASC. And in our synastry, my Nessus is on her DC, her Vertex is on my moon, my vertex is on her Jupiter. What the heck is this Nessus contact between us? There really does not seem to be any abuse here.

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Were is your asteroid Deprez-9795??
It's a good indication of what you need to do to let go of your pain and start feeling again!


Wow, I have Deprez conjunct my Moon in Cancer with 0ー47 orb. What would this mean, Gabby?

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posted February 10, 2014 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow That would indicate depression. I am afraid to look cuz I think I have it, too lol

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Lucifer is pride and/or rebellion....in my chart lucifer is conjunct my Saturn 0degree and trined my Sun/Mercury
0 degree....I always worried about that thinking it had to be bad somehow, it's lucifer!!! He can't be good right?
But iQ did my chart and said, in my chart Lucifer was good....it's a spritual rebellion for the sake of what's right and truly righteous!
He said that's seen by the aspects to my Sun/Merc and the asteroid Compassion that sits on my Sun/Merc!
I think all asteroids must be looked at in this way, I was really surprised to find it's meaning so different than I had expected but it made perfect sense!


Just saw this. Thanks Gabby. Good to know Lucifer ain't so bad after all. I appreciate that you gave your own example and what iQ said about it. Makes sense.

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Ami, I'm gonna tell you how some of these asteroids played in my last relationship:

His Lust Conj my Sun - He said to me that our relationship was only sexual. It is 3 degree, but somehow we felt it. I always felt strange to someone have such a sexual desire for me, I'm not a Barbie .

His Nemesis Conj My Jupiter - As anything that touches Jupiter... the first time I saw him, I had a great feeling for beating on his face. I didn't understand this at first, looking now at this I could see why. The Conj is 0 degree. From that I learned to trust in my first gut reactions...

His CasaNova Conj My Mars - Every time we fighted, i got disarmed. Yes, that was the feeling. He was worng and I got disarmed. I really didn't enjoy this combination...

His Prey Conj my Nymphe - Here I thank God for not had sex with him. He somehow got me wanting to go to bed with him. Another combinations that isn't my favorite...

The most interesting thing, from all these asteroids, none of mine were making aspects to his planets... a real mess in my life...

Thanks God it is over... I'm gonna see more astrology before dating

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posted February 12, 2014 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for crabbypatty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
this was fascinating Dani. Thank you for sharing.

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posted February 12, 2014 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just saw your post Crabby. Well, to me, the charts will always come to pass. That is all I can say. They are a harbinger of things. If things have not happened yet and all times of birth are correct, to me, they will happen. Other people do not agree but that is what I have seen, in my own experience, Crabby dear

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Ami Ann, I'm so new to this. I've been studying astrology off and on for thirty years, more on than ever for the last four, but oh my goodness, there is so much to learn!

Please help me to understand these aspects.

In natal, I have Dejanira conjunct Sun in Libra in 2nd (also conjunct NN). (Yes, I was abused as a child in all ways except sexually. Thank God I escaped that one. I also managed to choose an abusive marriage; what I've read of your words on Dejanira fit me absolutely.) My Uranus is conjunct ASC.

The guy in whom I'm interested has Dejanira conjunct Psyche/Destinn in Aqua in 10th which is conjunct my DSC and all square my Eros and opposing my Uranus/ASC. Dejanira/Psyche/Destinn is also sextile his Moon in Sag and square his Mars (conjunct ASC) in Taurus in 1st. (And his Mars opposes my Eros.) Lord, some of these orbs might be off. I can't seem to load charts to photbucket, sorry.

How does Dejanira play out for him natally and for us in synastry?

Thank you for any light you can shed on this.

***Added: Oh dear. His Nessus is conjunct his Sun in Gemini (3 deg) 1st house, square his Uranus in Virgo in 5th (which is conjunct my Venus, Pluto and POF in 1st). Not good, huh?

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posted February 19, 2014 03:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Keep this bumped up for me in about 4 days. I like to talk with people, not just write a post and I would like to discuss it with you but I don't have the proper time to devote now, so please, please bump it up for me in a few days, my Friend

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Wow, I have Deprez conjunct my Moon in Cancer with 0ー47 orb. What would this mean, Gabby?

I think Deprez here would be one of the toughest placements because your whole emotional energy plummets into a depression, leaves nothing to pull you out! When you fall you fall hard and with little resources to find the light at the end of the tunnel your energy disappears your will disappears you probably just want hibernate and won't let anyone help you. Everything becomes too much to handle.....you can only stay in this state so long...eventually something has to give, and you start to pull out of but it's a deep hole you fall into and emotionally life stops for you until it passes!

I would imagine good transits and bad transits over this area affect your mood a lot! If you find yourself suddenly down for no apparent reason, make sure to check for things transiting this and squaring this area!

Going numb isn't what will help you, what will help is allowing yourself to go into your feelings, accepting them, don't reject them or feel bad for whatever you feel! Guilt is your worst enemy!!
At times it will seem you hurt much more than others....you do! It's ok though, realize in this lifetime you are being forced to face the things you've previously allowed yourself to push down or to go numb instead of dealing with them.
Your heart can't carry anymore pain and it's time to start purging it!! This asteroid is going to make you hurt enough you finally do something about it, no more burying the pain!
Let your pain breathe! Let yourself feel it and don't be afraid you can't handle what you feel...you can!
Once you get over the initial shock of the pain, this is momentary if you really embrace the hurt wholeheartedly, you will start to feel better...so cry or scream or do whatever you need to feel it and then it will be easy to release it!
Fear is what keeps it bottled up inside so that it can slowly eat away at your soul....don't be afraid of it!
When you got hurt you were a different person than now, now you can handle feeling and releasing what has hurt you!
The more you purge the easier it will get to clear out more!

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posted February 21, 2014 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReeseC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Reese, dear. I will be back later. I have some appointments today. If you want me to help give you more information, send a pic of you and of him to my e mail. You can click on it on the Mods part of this Forum. Paste it in your own e mail and send it. I do it that way.


Thank you very much. I will do that immediately. I apologize that I haven't gotten back to you-this problem has escalated to epic proportions and I am trying to get through it without things going horrible.

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Reese....could you give me the orbs between these aspects please?
His Sun/Nessus/Mars/Venus and AC is conjunct, how close?

His stellium has in it virgo Venus, it looks like his Venus very closely opposes your pisces Nemesis which appears to be nearly exact on his pisces Prey...this falls on both of your DC's...is that correct?


How close are these ??
Your Dejanira on his Lust
Your mercury on his Sado
Your Nymph on his Mercury
Your Pluto on his Bucchas
Your Nessus is opposed your Mars(how close in your chart is this opposition)
This conjunction seems to be a nearly exact square to his Moon...???

Is this chart using accurate birth times, so we know the angles and your moons?


Thank you for reviewing my chart-words cannot describe how appreciative I am of people helping me with this situation. I also apologize for getting back to you late-things are bad regarding this situation. These are the correct birth times, and I'm somewhat new with synastry so I wouldn't be able to tell you the orbs without a the chart at the bottom from astro.com

Here is the chart though: http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?cid=kkrfilexf8xUd-u1385848027&lang=e&gm=a1&nhor=2155514&nho2=3027432&btyp=61&mth=gw&sday=20&smon=2&syr=2014&hsy=12&zod=&orbp=&rs=0&add=19&ast=193 8%2C+19521%2C+157%2C+4580%2C+7066%2C+118230%2C+128%2C+6157%2C+4386

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