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Ami Anne
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posted March 04, 2014 04:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The guy in whom I'm interested has Dejanira conjunct Psyche/Destinn in Aqua in 10th which is conjunct my DSC and all square my Eros and opposing my Uranus/ASC. Dejanira/Psyche/Destinn is also sextile his Moon in Sag and square his Mars (conjunct ASC) in Taurus in 1st. (And his Mars opposes my Eros.) Lord, some of these orbs might be off. I can't seem to load charts to photbucket, sorry.

How does Dejanira play out for him natally and for us in synastry?

Thank you for any light you can shed on this.

***Added: Oh dear. His Nessus is conjunct his Sun in Gemini (3 deg) 1st house, square his Uranus in Virgo in 5th (which is conjunct my Venus, Pluto and POF in 1st). Not good, huh?

The Nessus conj the Sun is wide but still valid due to it's being the Sun imo

I would be careful and watchful of this. His Uranus conj your venus may bode of a short relationship i.e a fling. This is just one aspect though, so one can't draw a conclusion on one aspect.

There are so many aspects there that I can't follow all of them so I will pick a few.

His Deja conj your Dsc may make Him the victim of you.

His Psyche/deja/destin may be such that he has the sense that he is a victim. I would bet he was abused.

It is hard to get a read from verbal descriptions but I hope those few aspects did help, my Friend.

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micole maree
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posted March 05, 2014 05:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for micole maree     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, yes, Ami Anne, this is helpful.

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posted March 05, 2014 07:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by micole maree:
Thank you, yes, Ami Anne, this is helpful.

I am so glad, M! If you care to talk about the relationship, we can. I am a natural counselor( as well as one by profession) so I a always interested in the stories behind the charts, if you care to share more about it.

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posted March 08, 2014 03:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for micole maree     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, Ami Anne. I appreciate that. I think if I talk about it, it would be privately, via a session with you. This one, for many reasons, feels too personal to post here. Bless you for offering to counsel here.

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posted March 08, 2014 09:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by micole maree:
Thank you, Ami Anne. I appreciate that. I think if I talk about it, it would be privately, via a session with you. This one, for many reasons, feels too personal to post here. Bless you for offering to counsel here.

You can write to me by e mail if you like

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posted March 08, 2014 06:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CappyLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Looking at the asteroids I now see why me and my ex caused each other a lot of pain.

His sado went into my 8th house
My dejanira trined his moon and mars
My hekate conjunct his sun
His 8th house conjunct my Asc but he had pholus conjunct vertex and my dejanira falls into the 8th house.
My nessu fell into his ASC and his nessu fell into my 5th house >.<

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posted March 08, 2014 06:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CappyLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Looking at the asteroids I now see why me and my ex caused each other a lot of pain.

His sado went into my 8th house
My dejanira trined his moon and mars
My hekate conjunct his sun
His 8th house conjunct my Asc but he had pholus conjunct vertex and my dejanira falls into the 8th house.
My nessu fell into his ASC and his nessu fell into my 5th house >.<

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posted March 08, 2014 06:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My hekate conjunct his sun

Did he not want to see his shadow side but you seemed to have to keep showing it to him in a way that you could not even help?

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posted April 25, 2014 06:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aurora_girl1990     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami,What does Dejanira conjunct child(exact) conjunct moon(by 3 degrees)mean or indicate?

You said dejanira conjunct moon indicated sexual abuse.But as far as i can recall,that hasn't happen to me.

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posted April 25, 2014 08:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aurora_girl1990:
Ami,What does Dejanira conjunct child(exact) conjunct moon(by 3 degrees)mean or indicate?

You said dejanira conjunct moon indicated sexual abuse.But as far as i can recall,that hasn't happen to me.



Tell me the degrees of each one, my Friend. degrees are everything.

With Deja conj the Moon( close) I have seen sexual abuse in most every chart I have ever read. Some people suppress it, too, so one must take that into consideration. I think 2 people told me they did not have it.

I suppressed it until recently, so denial is a real thing that one must consider as an AStrologer.

Child conj Deja is what I have. It is one step down from Moon conj Deja which is one of the hardest aspects in the entire chart.

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posted May 04, 2014 03:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aurora_girl1990     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted May 04, 2014 03:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aurora_girl1990     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Tell me the degrees of each one, my Friend. degrees are everything.

With Deja conj the Moon( close) I have seen sexual abuse in most every chart I have ever read. Some people suppress it, too, so one must take that into consideration. I think 2 people told me they did not have it.

I suppressed it until recently, so denial is a real thing that one must consider as an AStrologer.

Child conj Deja is what I have. It is one step down from Moon conj Deja which is one of the hardest aspects in the entire chart.


Well my Dejanira conjunct my Child(less than 1 degree) while my Dejanira conjunct my moon by 3 degrees.Which mean that my Child also conjunct my moon by 3 degrees.

Does this change anything?

Why is moon conjunct Dejanira one of the hardest aspects of the chart?

And why is Child conjunct Dejanira a hard aspect as well?

Thank you for taking the time to answer my questions Ami.

I didn't check the boards until today but i noticed your quick reply and i want to thank you for your quick reply

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posted May 04, 2014 07:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, A.
Well, I see sexual abuse/ quite severe emotional abuse in Deja conj the Moon. I have never seen it fail. I have seen Borderline PD in many cases. The person fractures. Child conj Deja is one step down, albeit, quite a lessening of the abuse but it is still there. I have this, exact. I did not have the horrendous abuse where a child is burned,etc etc but it was still something that made me numb and I am still trying to come out of it. Tell me about your life

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Thank you for replying so quickly Ami

Well Dejanira conjunct Child is less than 1 degree.

Dejanira conjunct moon is 3 degrees.

Why is Dejanira conjunct child or Dejanira conjunct moon really bad aspects?

Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions.

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posted May 04, 2014 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why are they so bad? The Moon is one's deepest heart. The Child asteroid is one's inner child and one's childhood and deja is abuse.

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ok so i was really fascinated with the synastry between one direction lad harry styles and taylor swift. they "dated" for a couple of months then broke up. while harry seemed fine, taylor wasn't. as he got on with it and carried on having fun, she ended up spending a good portion of her red tour spilling her breakup to the press, humiliating harry at numerous televised award shows, made passive aggressive swipes at girls he claimed to take a fancy to and even got caught lying a couple of times (re: vanity fair). it was the worst ive ever seen her. can't believe a teenager could cause a grown woman to behave like that.

SO i wasnt shocked to find -

her sun conjunct his Nemesis AND Prey. but she is the planet person, i thought it was the asteroid person doing the dirty work!

his sun opposite her Cassanova.
she made sure to let the whole world know he 'cheated' on her even though he was openly single at the time she claimed they were first dated (lies were debunked)

his venus squares her prey.
t. pluto is currently opposing her moon and squaring his moon.

sidenote: it almost seems shes losing her marbles. i wouldnt call her psycho but she acts psycho. at times she seems borderline sociopathic, especially during her vendetta against harry. i used to like her but now ive seen her actual personality its not very nice and im not surprised shes been dumped so many times. you wouldnt believe she is five years older than him. she obsesses over a kid - he was 18 at the time

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posted May 05, 2014 07:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by iliketurtles:
ok so i was really fascinated with the synastry between one direction lad harry styles and taylor swift. they "dated" for a couple of months then broke up. while harry seemed fine, taylor wasn't. as he got on with it and carried on having fun, she ended up spending a good portion of her red tour spilling her breakup to the press, humiliating harry at numerous televised award shows, made passive aggressive swipes at girls he claimed to take a fancy to and even got caught lying a couple of times (re: vanity fair). it was the worst ive ever seen her. can't believe a teenager could cause a grown woman to behave like that.

SO i wasnt shocked to find -

her sun conjunct his Nemesis AND Prey. but she is the planet person, i thought it was the asteroid person doing the dirty work!

his sun opposite her Cassanova.
she made sure to let the whole world know he 'cheated' on her even though he was openly single at the time she claimed they were first dated (lies were debunked)

his venus squares her prey.
t. pluto is currently opposing her moon and squaring his moon.

sidenote: it almost seems shes losing her marbles. i wouldnt call her psycho but she acts psycho. at times she seems borderline sociopathic, especially during her vendetta against harry. i used to like her but now ive seen her actual personality its not very nice and im not surprised shes been dumped so many times. you wouldnt believe she is five years older than him. she obsesses over a kid - he was 18 at the time



Fascinating,ILT.Thanks for sharing this!

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posted May 05, 2014 05:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iliketurtles     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ no worries friend

i should add that noone knows for sure what happened in that relationship, i do still feel she may have been lead on a little bit, however thats no excuse for her to act the way she did and she actually ended up coming off as the perpertrator. you know when she has been dumped/rejected by how badly the she trashes the guy afterwards

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I have a few of these quite prominent natally.

Proserpina conj. North Node, conj. Nessus.

Nymph conj. Prey conj. Asc. (conj, stellium of Mars, Sat, Plu)

Dejanira conj. IC

Lust conj. Sun

Nemesis conj. DC

Bacchus conj. Venus, opp NN, proserpina, & Nessus.

Plus the asteroids are all squaring and opposing eachother and my Plu, Sat, Mars, Asc stellium.

My chart really gets me down sometimes.


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Does Sado in 12H denote masochism? Or would it be Dejanira in aspect with the ASC?

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Scary stuff.
makes me wonder how much influence asteroids can actually have on a person.

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Originally posted by Linda Jones:
I see. Could you explain what you mean by spiritual pride? Example, if someone has Sun or Moon conjunction with Lucifer, how would that play out? Thanks

I have Lucifer conjunct my Moon actually (1 degree orb), lol. I couldn't tell you though what it implies? Perhaps that'll be my New Moon quest.

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posted September 23, 2014 11:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cosmolove89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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“The Unexamined life is not worth living” -Socrates

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posted September 24, 2014 10:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gabby:
Lucifer is pride and/or rebellion....in my chart lucifer is conjunct my Saturn 0degree and trined my Sun/Mercury
0 degree....I always worried about that thinking it had to be bad somehow, it's lucifer!!! He can't be good right?
But iQ did my chart and said, in my chart Lucifer was good....it's a spritual rebellion for the sake of what's right and truly righteous!
He said that's seen by the aspects to my Sun/Merc and the asteroid Compassion that sits on my Sun/Merc!
I think all asteroids must be looked at in this way, I was really surprised to find it's meaning so different than I had expected but it made perfect sense!


Wow really cool.

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Originally posted by Gabby:
I would say spirituality more than "religion". Religion is man made, lucifer is about the fight between the darkness and the light, it's above religion...although religion can play a part in what brings you light or dark since so many people turn to religion to find light and others are dragged through a religion that makes them fear God, and they have to fight to find light after being a part of a religion that brought them into darkness.

Interesting.

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