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Topic: The Truth About BLACK MOON LILITH
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Gabby Moderator Posts: 4499 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted August 07, 2014 05:34 AM
quote: Originally posted by MiaPluto: Hi Gabby  This only counts with a conjunction. I've never noticed anything with other aspects. It's usually only conjunctions. xx
Ok, that's cool! I never noticed my mom hating anything about us kids or regarding my dad.....so that fits! Actually I think she genuinely loved and adored him, but maybe she hated my dad's immaturity and how it took a toll on our lives. IP: Logged |
Voix_de_la_Mer Knowflake Posts: 896 From: You. Registered: Aug 2011
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posted August 07, 2014 06:47 AM
Black Moon Lilith makes no aspects to anything in my chart.Do you know how is this interpreted in light of the theory? IP: Logged |
MiaPluto Knowflake Posts: 233 From: Montreal, Quebec, Canada Registered: Aug 2014
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posted August 07, 2014 07:23 AM
quote: Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer: Black Moon Lilith makes no aspects to anything in my chart.Do you know how is this interpreted in light of the theory?
Then I think you're lucky! But did you check if lilith is touching any house cusp? ------------------ Mia IP: Logged |
Voix_de_la_Mer Knowflake Posts: 896 From: You. Registered: Aug 2011
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posted August 07, 2014 07:25 AM
She is at 15'Sagittarius. The cusp of my 3rd H is 23'Sagittarius.So, I don't think so. Why does this make me lucky, what have I avoided? IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 4499 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted August 07, 2014 07:40 AM
My Lilith is aries@2.59, my 7th house cusp is aries@7.05IP: Logged |
MiaPluto Knowflake Posts: 233 From: Montreal, Quebec, Canada Registered: Aug 2014
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posted August 07, 2014 09:01 AM
@voix_de_la_mer and @gabbyCheck out my website. I have the info on BML there miapluto.wix.com/astrology @Gabby it's close to your 7 th house cusp. Do you feel like your mother disagrees with the kind of partners you attract or have in life? x IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 4499 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted August 07, 2014 08:58 PM
quote: Originally posted by MiaPluto: @voix_de_la_mer and @gabbyCheck out my website. I have the info on BML there miapluto.wix.com/astrology @Gabby it's close to your 7 th house cusp. Do you feel like your mother disagrees with the kind of partners you attract or have in life? x
Lol, yes! She's very critical of everyone and looks for things wrong with them, will even make stuff up but age does this with all of us kids. My brother has been married forever and all my mom can say about her is she isn't smart enough for him. My other brother has been married several times because mom turns him on his wives. I don't even introduce her to ppl I'm getting to know!
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Gabby Moderator Posts: 4499 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted August 07, 2014 09:59 PM
I edited/deleted both of your comments guys, the rudeness is not needed, let's work on being kinder to one another please!IP: Logged |
fireopal09 Knowflake Posts: 459 From: Dallas,TX, Us Registered: Oct 2010
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posted August 08, 2014 09:11 PM
I look at the Lilith myth. She was cast out because she was not submissive. Then she was demonized. Lilith themes have been HUGE in my life. I have been ostracised, vilified, & outcasted by my family; yet, I still have my mom. She is a Lilith persona. Weaker people HATE & LOVE us. ------------------ Claire "When going gets weird, the weird turn pro." -HST IP: Logged |
Leorpio Knowflake Posts: 421 From: Cypress Registered: Mar 2014
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posted August 08, 2014 10:03 PM
I think the mother and father are better represented by Sun and moon. Often times people who have sun trine moon in their charts had a good home life and the parents loved each other very much. Most cases of sun square/opposite moon means there was a lot of tension between the mother and father during time of birth. A girl I am dating has Cap sun in opposition to Cancer moon and her parents were fighting when she was born. I have Leo sun square Scorpio moon within 1 orb and my parents were about to get a divorce when I was born.As for Lilith its a very interesting concept that it effects the mother only. How does Lilith effect one in the different houses? IP: Logged |
MorpHnStorM Knowflake Posts: 325 From: Registered: Oct 2013
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posted August 09, 2014 01:12 PM
quote: Originally posted by Leorpio: I think the mother and father are better represented by Sun and moon. Often times people who have sun trine moon in their charts had a good home life and the parents loved each other very much. Most cases of sun square/opposite moon means there was a lot of tension between the mother and father during time of birth. A girl I am dating has Cap sun in opposition to Cancer moon and her parents were fighting when she was born. I have Leo sun square Scorpio moon within 1 orb and my parents were about to get a divorce when I was born.As for Lilith its a very interesting concept that it effects the mother only. How does Lilith effect one in the different houses?
Interesting. I have a Sun-Moon trine and the home atmosphere was anything but loving.My Father was extremely abusive (physically and psychologically) towards my Mother. Mother was abusive to me at times, but the worst of came from my brother. My Father was an alcoholic/drug addict, so there was psychological abuse as a result of that, but he never laid a hand on me. My Moon is conj. the IC in Virgo, square Uranus, and opposite a MC-BML-Pallas-Proserpina-Casanova conjunction in Pisces; BML @ <1 orb just falling in the 10th (conj. the MC), with that conj. spanning about 2 degrees. There is also a wide (5) trine to Jupiter from my Moon. I faced abuse and relentless bullying inside and outside of the home when I was growing up...and I've always been very independent... BML is certainly strong in my chart. IP: Logged |
MiaPluto Knowflake Posts: 233 From: Montreal, Quebec, Canada Registered: Aug 2014
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posted August 09, 2014 01:58 PM
quote: Originally posted by MorpHnStorM: Interesting. I have a Sun-Moon trine and the home atmosphere was anything but loving.My Father was extremely abusive (physically and psychologically) towards my Mother. Mother was abusive to me at times, but the worst of came from my brother. My Father was an alcoholic/drug addict, so there was psychological abuse as a result of that, but he never laid a hand on me. My Moon is conj. the IC in Virgo, square Uranus, and opposite a MC-BML-Pallas-Proserpina-Casanova conjunction in Pisces; BML @ <1 orb just falling in the 10th (conj. the MC), with that conj. spanning about 2 degrees. There is also a wide (5) trine to Jupiter from my Moon. I faced abuse and relentless bullying inside and outside of the home when I was growing up...and I've always been very independent... BML is certainly strong in my chart.
Hi MorpHnStorM, Do you think that your mother doesn't like or disagrees with you being in the spotlight/or may not want you to get ahead in life/career? xx ------------------ Mia x IP: Logged |
MiaPluto Knowflake Posts: 233 From: Montreal, Quebec, Canada Registered: Aug 2014
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posted August 09, 2014 02:00 PM
quote: Originally posted by MiaPluto: Hi MorpHnStorM,Do you think that your mother doesn't like or disagrees with you being in the spotlight/or may not want you to get ahead in life/career? Or do you think that she doesn't agree with the kind of career you chose or have in life? xx
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iliketurtles Knowflake Posts: 345 From: 2099 Registered: Nov 2010
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posted August 11, 2014 05:20 AM
7. Uranus: Your mother may hate your rebelliousness, she may disagree with your originality, and she may want you to stick with traditional rules. i am a very progressive person and my mother is the most backward person in the world. theres a big part of me that she really hates. im agonostic, she cannot accept that. she thinks i am the devils spawn  IP: Logged |
MiaPluto Knowflake Posts: 233 From: Montreal, Quebec, Canada Registered: Aug 2014
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posted August 11, 2014 06:31 AM
quote: Originally posted by iliketurtles: [b]7. Uranus: Your mother may hate your rebelliousness, she may disagree with your originality, and she may want you to stick with traditional rules. i am a very progressive person and my mother is the most backward person in the world. theres a big part of me that she really hates. im agonostic, she cannot accept that. she thinks i am the devils spawn [/B]
Wow! So it's true. I have a cousin who has lilith conjunct her uranus too, in the 9th house, squaring her moon. The daughter wants to travel and discover more, and she's very open-minded and rebellious, which her mother hates a lot! xx ------------------ Mia x IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 5145 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted August 12, 2014 11:23 AM
quote: Originally posted by MiaPluto: Hello everyone!I wanted to talk about something that cannot be a coincidence because it's always the the case! Whenever someone's black moon lilith is conjunct the sun in their natal chart, it means that their mothers are repulsed by the father of the child/their husband/ex-husband. Black moon lilith in the chart represents what your mother/other figure in life hates about you, or is repulsed by. She shows merciless cruelty to you in that part of your chart. I have discovered that in 4 people's charts an they all agreed with it! I BET YOU THAT IF SOMEONE'S BLACK MOON LILITH IS CONJUNCT THEIR SUN THEIR MOTHERS HATE SOMETHING ABOUT THAT PERSON'S FATHER. I have also noticed in sibling's charts that black moon lilith is conjunct usually to the same planet/luminary. For example, there are two sisters who have both their sun conjunct BML and their mother doesn't like her husband (their father). She doesn't like his looks in this case. In another case, there were brothers are sisters who both had Moon conjunct BML! Now what does that mean? I knew their mother quite well and she was known to be very self-insecure about herself. She had self-hatred and did not want her children to look like her (which was a shame she thought like that because she is quite pretty) but for some reason she's always very self-insecure. I couldn't believe no one yet discovered the function of BML. People believe in the myth of the asteroids too literally. The myths of each symbol/asteroid is a code/hidden message to explain the function of it. Here are the meanings of BML conjunct some planets if you have it: (Note that I said only CONJUNCT, not opposite/square/trine/etc) BML CONJUNCT: 1. SUN: Your mother hates your father for some reason. 2. MOON: Your mother is self-insecure and has self-hatred for some reason. 3. Venus: Your mother hates you expressing your femininity, she may hate your taste in things (clothing/furniture/partners/etc), she doesn't like you to socialize too much. 4. Mars: Your mother hates your way of expressing yourself, she may discourage you and underestimate you. 5. Jupiter: Your mother probably hates your father a little bit, or she may hate your teachers. 6. Saturn: Your mother may hate you seeing suffering, she doesn't like it when you're depressed and she may not let anyone punish/be mean to you. 7. Uranus: Your mother may hate your rebelliousness, she may disagree with your originality, and she may want you to stick with traditional rules. 8. Neptune: Your mother hates it when you watch too much TV, movies, be weak, or indulge in unrealistic stuff. She hates your weakness. 9. Pluto: Your mother hates it when you're being possessive and/or secretive. 10. Juno: Your mother may not agree the partner you choose in life. 11. Ascendant: Your mother may hate you for some reason. She doesn't really love you maybe (sorry about that). I hope you find it true! Visit my website for more details on this: http://miapluto.wix.com/astrology
Which BML? BTW, neither of the BMLs is related to the mother. Lilith was a rebellious woman, rejecting the traditional female role imposed by patriarchy (motherhood included), she is the first female rebel, the first feminist. She was of course demonized by Christianity, that's why you find descriptions of BML as the "demonic" female. A very outdated view on BML, if you ask me. ------------------ I seem to have loved you in numberless forms... IP: Logged |
MiaPluto Knowflake Posts: 233 From: Montreal, Quebec, Canada Registered: Aug 2014
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posted August 12, 2014 04:21 PM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: Which BML?BTW, neither of the BMLs is related to the mother. Lilith was a rebellious woman, rejecting the traditional female role imposed by patriarchy (motherhood included), she is the first female rebel, the first feminist. She was of course demonized by Christianity, that's why you find descriptions of BML as the "demonic" female. A very outdated view on BML, if you ask me.
Well in my knowledge and experience, it is strongly related to the mother and/or motherland. And I'm talking about the bml that is shown on astro.com. BML is where the moon is farthest from the earth, thus looking much smaller than usual. In my case, in all my readings, the clients always agreed when I told the about BML. It just happens to be true. Don't ask me, try it for yourself. Ask anyone with BML conjunct any of their planets and tell them what I listed about, and then you'll find out. But it only applies to conjunctions. xx ------------------ Mia x IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 5145 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted August 12, 2014 05:43 PM
quote: Originally posted by MiaPluto: Don't ask me, try it for yourself. Ask anyone with BML conjunct any of their planets and tell them what I listed about, and then you'll find out. But it only applies to conjunctions. xx
LOL you're funny...Obviously Lilith conjunct a planet can't mean just one thing: a woman hating her child's father - it's the first time I hear about it - but that's not a bad thing, perhaps this is one of the possible meanings, a noteworthy astrological hypothesis. Of course, in order to establish that, you need to do a research or back your research with significant data - in the meantime, Lilith conjunct a planet has several meanings according to the Lilith myth, reflected in practical astrology. What does the myth mean to you, BTW?
Making a thread entitled "The TRUTH about Lilith" and then saying "hey, I have 4 examples or 20 examples, I've discovered the truth" sounds a little pompous, right?? And, Mia, several of your posts I've read on the forum (including the one I quoted above) are aggressive and disrespectful. I suggest you read the Terms and Conditions here, because if you are here only to promote your site, you're in the wrong place. This is a place of respect, a community of astrologers, where at least two kinds of respect take place: - one for people in general and their opinions, contradictory or not - one for the other astrologers and their opinions. So I'm inviting you to share your knowledge and to learn with us like we all do, together, here.
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MiaPluto Knowflake Posts: 233 From: Montreal, Quebec, Canada Registered: Aug 2014
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posted August 12, 2014 06:32 PM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: LOL you're funny...Obviously Lilith conjunct a planet can't mean just one thing: a woman hating her child's father - it's the first time I hear about it - but that's not a bad thing, perhaps this is one of the possible meanings, a noteworthy astrological hypothesis. Of course, in order to establish that, you need to do a research or back your research with significant data - in the meantime, Lilith conjunct a planet has several meanings according to the Lilith myth, reflected in practical astrology. What does the myth mean to you, BTW?Making a thread entitled "The TRUTH about Lilith" and then saying "hey, I have 4 examples or 20 examples, I've discovered the truth" sounds a little pompous, right?? And, Mia, several of your posts I've read on the forum (including the one I quoted above) are aggressive and disrespectful. I suggest you read the Terms and Conditions here, because if you are here only to promote your site, you're in the wrong place. This is a place of respect, a community of astrologers, where at least two kinds of respect take place: - one for people in general and their opinions, contradictory or not - one for the other astrologers and their opinions. So I'm inviting you to share your knowledge and to learn with us like we all do, together, here.
Okay. For the 100000000000000000000th time, I state; I only wrote 'truth' in enthusiasm, I didn't actually mean it. I'm here to learn and spread knowledge/ideas too. Can you please give me an example of the thread I started where I'm rude/disrespectful, except for maybe this one? Thanks x ------------------ Mia x IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 5145 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted August 13, 2014 07:14 AM
Let's just interact differently from now on, Mia, OK?  ------------------
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