posted January 11, 2011 05:29 PM            

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Originally posted by roadwarriorsdp:
Don't zombees eat people and destroy them?

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posted January 11, 2011 05:30 PM            

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Originally posted by amowls**:
You and I have different definitions of what a god-fearing person is then.

Clarify that because there has never been a political leader in the western world who did not claim himself to be a believer in God.

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posted January 11, 2011 05:31 PM            

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Originally posted by BanxxManxx:
nah, I think that is in the movies. But they don't destroy them, they digest them.

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Aww man you're right.

posted January 11, 2011 05:31 PM            

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Originally posted by BanxxManxx:
nah, I think that is in the movies. But they don't destroy them, they digest them.

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Aww man you're right.

posted January 11, 2011 05:33 PM            

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Originally posted by roadwarriorsdp:
ACtually calling your self a believer is different than performing the act of belief. Defacto...those who led the crusades did not believe in God.

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Well let's clarify that a bit

In Christianity, you can only be a christian, if you follow the tenets of the faith. I'm not talking about the ten commandments, I'm talking about the tenets...it's different, you can only know those if you go to church...and you practice the religion.

So when someone murders someone. They are not believing in God. Of course they may believe in him after, but at the point of murder, there is no belief.

BElieving in God, would mean that you would let God handle it.

It's the tenet.

posted January 11, 2011 05:33 PM            

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Originally posted by roadwarriorsdp:
Aww man you're right.

What about
when I destroy a destruction? Am I not creating?

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posted January 11, 2011 05:35 PM            

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Originally posted by amowls**:
I mean, an outsider can't truly gauge how someone feels about God. It's kind of dumb to even speculate, in my opinion.

And it's also kind of silly to not call yourself an atheist because of the Crusades? You could call yourself a non believer because of what so-called believers did, too.

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posted January 11, 2011 05:36 PM            

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Well, then, I must believe in God because I have never committed an act of violence against another human being in my entire life.

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posted January 11, 2011 05:37 PM            

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Originally posted by amowls**:
Well, then, I must believe in God because I have never committed an act of violence against another human being in my entire life. I also have compassion for others and help the poor.

Good/evil does not exist in that way. "God" and Christianity does not have a monopoly on all that is good. You can be a good person and have good moral judgment without believing in God.

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posted January 11, 2011 05:38 PM            

Ghandi, then, is the only true believer.

*I use christian and believer in God interchangeably, but this can be applied to Muslims and Jews (also Mormons)

posted January 11, 2011 05:41 PM            

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Originally posted by amowls**:
I have probably have less violent thoughts than the average person. By your definition, no one is a *believer in God* then because EVERYONE has violent thoughts (even if it's only for a milisecond).

Ghandi, then, is the only true believer.

*I use christian and believer in God interchangeably, but this can be applied to Muslims and Jews (also Mormons)

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No, because the tenets of the faith have accounted for that, as in man and woman having a failable nature.

posted January 11, 2011 05:42 PM            

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Originally posted by amowls**:
I have probably have less violent thoughts than the average person. By your definition, no one is a *believer in God* then because EVERYONE has violent thoughts (even if it's only for a milisecond).

Ghandi, then, is the only true believer.

*I use christian and believer in God interchangeably, but this can be applied to Muslims and Jews (also Mormons)

And if you don't want to dabble in the occult what are you doing on an astrology board

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posted January 11, 2011 05:44 PM            

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Originally posted by amowls**:
Well then you are certainly not an Atheist. So it's false to say that you don't call yourself an atheist because of the Crusades~~ or whatever. Just say that you believe in God.

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posted January 11, 2011 05:44 PM            

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Men and women cannot help but be violent. We are mammals after all. You have to be violent....unless your not a human.

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posted January 11, 2011 05:44 PM            

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I can't not believe in God. When I believe in God I literally bench press 50 more lbs.

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posted January 11, 2011 05:45 PM            

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Originally posted by amowls**:
Yes, precisely. But you said earlier that people who believe in God can not have violent thoughts, even if you did not say it explicitly. So if that's true, then no one believes in God.

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posted January 11, 2011 05:46 PM            

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Originally posted by amowls**:
Sounds... magical.

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Actually there is an organ in your brain that releases certain neurotransmitters that have a greater effect than adrenaline when you pray.

posted January 11, 2011 05:46 PM            

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I've proven astrology already through science..the moon effects the waves...and quantum physics operates outside the space time continuum...carl jung did it through his empirical data involving syncronicity.

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Science would be considered part of the occult. Literally, occult means the study of truth.

posted January 11, 2011 05:49 PM            

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Originally posted by amowls**:
Science would be considered part of the occult. Literally, occult means the study of truth.

You don't have to believe in God to meditate to release that chemical in your brain.

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