posted January 11, 2011 05:51 PM            

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Originally posted by amowls**:
Science would be considered part of the occult. Literally, occult means the study of truth.

You don't have to believe in God to meditate to release that chemical in your brain. Frankly, I don't get why people get so hung up on whether God exists or not.

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I was going to say this earlier, and that's why I believe in God too...because science is corrupt, and evil at heart.

After all, the rich continue to enslave the poor so that they can have cheaper beauty products, and this is what science does.

Not to sound morbid, but the world is a plutocracy and the highest level of objectivity.

posted January 11, 2011 05:53 PM            

So...I have to believe that something moved us, since all we are is matter in motion. And I have to believe that whatever moved us, was above us, and greater than us, since it required more energy than is in my body, and I also have to concede in super organic theory, and believe that what we compose is greater than us, as a cell is to a tissue, we are to something, possibly earth, the sun a beating heart...etc.

posted January 11, 2011 05:53 PM            

So...I have to believe that something moved us, since all we are is matter in motion. And I have to believe that whatever moved us, was above us, and greater than us, since it required more energy than is in my body, and I also have to concede in super organic theory, and believe that what we compose is greater than us, as a cell is to a tissue, we are to something, possibly earth, the sun a beating heart...etc.

posted January 11, 2011 05:54 PM            

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Originally posted by amowls**:
I don't see what capitalism has to do with science considering how the rich enslaving the poor is an age old tradition that began before the scientific method was introduced?

God-believing, in fact, has also been used to enslave and impoverish many groups of people (women, Jews, the Crusades, the inquisition). I find it foolish to blame SCIENCE.

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Science and capitalism are inseperable. They are two beams along the same stairwell.

posted January 11, 2011 05:55 PM            

cell ---- tissue ----- organ ----- organism

posted January 11, 2011 05:55 PM            

cell ---- tissue ----- organ ----- organism

posted January 11, 2011 05:57 PM            

It's undeniable, we are both individuals and not individuals...

and therefore we are not the ultimate conciousness.

posted January 11, 2011 05:57 PM            

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Originally posted by amowls**:
I don't see what capitalism has to do with science considering how the rich enslaving the poor is an age old tradition that began before the scientific method was introduced?

God-believing, in fact, has also been used to enslave and impoverish many groups of people (women, Jews, the Crusades, the inquisition). I find it foolish to blame SCIENCE.

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don't forget blacks,Native Americans

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posted January 11, 2011 05:58 PM            

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Originally posted by amowls**:
Actually, math predates science by more than a few centuries...

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Math is a science. It's the science of calculation...but actually I like to use science in terms of the modern enterprise...but math requires the scientific method to work.

posted January 11, 2011 05:58 PM            

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Originally posted by roadwarriorsdp:
Ross. Totaly man. Your words are hurtful, and bitter.

My words are not, and therefore I am not you.
It's okay though. I forgive you.

And I cant be as you are either, for if I was, I'd be dead...in this city you don't say things like that, or they put your body in the river.

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-Well have to agree to disagree than mayn. I previously stated I was originally offended by your remark asking ifI was on drugs, but I reasoned it was an applicable reply based on my firstpost. This I am well aware of. However my interpretation of the truth as I see it, pertaining to the attention you brought upon yourself with your original post I feel is correct. Also, I spent the first 10 years of mylife living in Queens NY, now Im on StongIsland. We say what we want and feel like here... Its how we are raised. Anything less would be going against our own personal code of respect. If our words carry enoughweight wheresomeone feels the need to take action... So be it.

posted January 11, 2011 06:00 PM            

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-Well have to agree to disagree than mayn. I previously stated I was originally offended by your remark asking ifI was on drugs, but I reasoned it was an applicable reply based on my firstpost. This I am well aware of. However my interpretation of the truth as I see it, pertaining to the attention you brought upon yourself with your original post I feel is correct. Also, I spent the first 10 years of mylife living in Queens NY, now Im on StongIsland. We say what we want and feel like here... Its how we are raised. Anything less would be going against our own personal code of respect. If our words carry enoughweight wheresomeone feels the need to take action... So be it.

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posted January 11, 2011 06:02 PM            

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Originally posted by mochai:
I don't know. I'm still hung up on what enlightenment is. There are so many different expressions that it's hard for me to say. I think each person has their own path and there are many things from both paths that just do not work for me. I still respect everyone regardless of how averse their expression may be. I feel like if I don't learn to love and accept them for who they are, I will be stuck in fear and I won't advance.

Either way, I do not want to reincarnate with someone who murdered me (which has happened). I like the easy way out, so I try to love and forgive everyone as much as I can do.

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-HeHe... Nicely put

posted January 11, 2011 06:02 PM            

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Originally posted by JohnRoss:

-Well have to agree to disagree than mayn. I previously stated I was originally offended by your remark asking ifI was on drugs, but I reasoned it was an applicable reply based on my firstpost. This I am well aware of. However my interpretation of the truth as I see it, pertaining to the attention you brought upon yourself with your original post I feel is correct. Also, I spent the first 10 years of mylife living in Queens NY, now Im on StongIsland. We say what we want and feel like here... Its how we are raised. Anything less would be going against our own personal code of respect. If our words carry enoughweight wheresomeone feels the need to take action... So be it.

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posted January 11, 2011 06:03 PM            

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Originally posted by amowls**:
Actually, math predates science by more than a few centuries...

I also find your ignorance/disdain of the scientific community (even as you spout prose that can be attributed to scientific discoveries) kind of disturbing.

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posted January 11, 2011 06:04 PM            

That's like saying your an astronaught for owning a ferari.

And you have to be logical, actually capable of rational thought to believe in God too...that's why people pray for their loved ones who aren't.

So ignorant people are usually atheists, who say they are believers, because they get free cookies at church..

REally going to church doesn't make you faithful, just like not going to church doesn't not make you faithful...it's all up to you...you have free will.

posted January 11, 2011 06:06 PM            

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Originally posted by roadwarriorsdp:
"Prayer and meditation also allow one to forgive and let go of negative thoughts, which decreases the production of our aging hormone, cortisol. Dopamine and serotonin aid in forgiveness, but the actual forgiving is freewill (Grace). We give our negative feelings and thoughts to God to handle. We forgive and let go of the very things that will cause us physiologically to destroy ourselves (The poisons that kills us, not those we hate)"

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-Nice

posted January 11, 2011 06:07 PM            

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Originally posted by JohnRoss:
-Nice

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posted January 11, 2011 06:08 PM            

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Originally posted by amowls**:
I'm sorry, I don't follow.

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posted January 11, 2011 06:09 PM            

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Originally posted by mochai:
I looked at old photos of me recently.. I had a strong purple aura around my head as an atheist. I was shocked.

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