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Electro DGX
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posted April 27, 2016 09:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Electro DGX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's so interesting observing how an opinion on a certain subject can cause such drama with such ease. I personally don't care about these two celebrities; I've got more important things to do lol

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posted April 27, 2016 09:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's so interesting observing how an opinion on a certain subject can cause such drama with such ease.

This small group of people, of which it is obvious to see who they are, come on here to harass people.

Randall does not ban people for simple harassment i.e being a jerk.

Hence, people need to learn to ignore because these people are fueled by responses to them.

Randall used to tell me to ignore and I would think he was too weak to fight back, but he was WISE lol

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Electro DGX
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posted April 27, 2016 09:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Electro DGX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But I don't consider anything said here to be harassment. Of course they're opinions put forth in a somewhat forceful way, but it would be a bit over the top to consider it harassment imo. There was an argument that broke out initially but I would only consider it harassment if it was more extreme (continuous slander and hateful speech towards someone involving swearing).

Of course there are people on here who do have the intention of harassing other people, and those are ones I and others should ignore. Other than that, I just consider it to be drama because it's not like everyone's trying to rip each other's heads off lol. Not to mention, the title was a controversial one to begin with, so it was bound to happen. Speaking of anger though, people should try to have a logical, rational discussion instead of referring to insults in order to make a point.

I personally don't reply to these types of threads because I don't feel the need to give an opinion on such a personal matter that may be tossed away anyway. Sitting back and observing the threads is what I do

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Hemilla
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posted April 27, 2016 10:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hemilla     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would like to say that it takes more than a lie for me to feel harassed - its maybe my square between mars and mercury,but i sometimes enjoy puting people like that on their place (ae - when they wrong me they recive portion of true preach)

The rest of the commenters i didnt feel were being mean,so ...i guess they are just posting what they think,and i dont have to agree.

Ami,if anyone harasses you call me,i can talk people out of their minds I just dont like when people are rude and when they lie,thats a sign of person not being on my levelof comunication ,so i have to get down to their level to make a point xD Also i cant rely on a decent fight with someone who has more authorety here,being moderator kinda gives you certain ''power'' and ''reputation'' ,and thats not fair,to lie like that when you are at that position like certain someone did.

I understand that even here you will find people who are sceptic,who dont belive in such things,who are not seeing things from my perspective and thats fine - i mean i will try to paint the pictionary my way,and they can do it their way - just without low blows

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posted April 27, 2016 10:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lilithsquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
NYCDodger - well said.

This thread serves to reinforce what I have observed about the overlap between Christian fundamentalism and so-called new age thinking related to "demons" or "negative" entities. Almost all of it is fear based speculation and projection. I will be addressing this 'sneaky demonology' soon on my blog, because the new thought/new age/new earth/channeling arena needs to hear it.

How about the demons of Gossip, Rumor, Lies, Hate, Homophobia, Racism, Fear? Religious folks seem to carry those around just like anyone else can.

Its all fear-based nonsense, since such speculations about others have nothing to do with [b]your reality. If you don't like the music she makes, don't listen to it. You don't have to come up with 'Satanism' for that. If you really do like her music, but have something in your mind seems to interfere, then examine that -- its in your mind where you have total control.

Hemilla, I'm not going to say that you are crazy, but these notions asserted re Beyonce are. If you don't want to be crazy, don't entertain crazy ideas. A search of the internet and watching videos of Beyonce in her own words should dispel for any reasonable person these myths.

If you believe someone else is lying about their religion/spirituality/soul, then you have no right to certainty over your own.

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*applause*
very well put.

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etherealsaturn
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posted April 27, 2016 10:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for etherealsaturn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Faith
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posted April 27, 2016 10:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Randall does not ban people for simple harassment i.e being a jerk.

Obviously not.

You're still here.

Just saying.....

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DopGang
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posted April 27, 2016 10:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
Obviously not.

You're still here.

Just saying.....


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Faith
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posted April 27, 2016 10:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hemilla:
I would like to say that it takes more than a lie for me to feel harassed - its maybe my square between mars and mercury,but i sometimes enjoy puting people like that on their place (ae - when they wrong me they recive portion of true preach)

The rest of the commenters i didnt feel were being mean,so ...i guess they are just posting what they think,and i dont have to agree.

Ami,if anyone harasses you call me,i can talk people out of their minds I just dont like when people are rude and when they lie,thats a sign of person not being on my levelof comunication ,so i have to get down to their level to make a point xD Also i cant rely on a decent fight with someone who has more authorety here,being moderator kinda gives you certain ''power'' and ''reputation'' ,and thats not fair,to lie like that when you are at that position like certain someone did.

I understand that even here you will find people who are sceptic,who dont belive in such things,who are not seeing things from my perspective and thats fine - i mean i will try to paint the pictionary my way,and they can do it their way - just without low blows



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Faith
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posted April 27, 2016 10:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DopGang:

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I know right???

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Faith
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posted April 27, 2016 10:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hemilla,

I understand your concerns, in theory.

I've asked for some evidence that they are Satanists and so far, there is none. I would like to see links, pictures, videos, etc.

If they are Satanic, the question becomes, "Why is that important?"

Is the issue about whether or not Satanism has a sinister impact on those who engage with it? Maybe a subliminal impact? Is the issue that we should boycott these entertainers if they are showing Satanic tendencies? What is the issue, in your opinion?

Beyonce has never struck me as being a dark influence, but I saw some of her new work and yes it was dark....but that's not incriminating, to me. I think there is a place for expressing the dark side.

And as a fellow Pisces moon I know it's MY place to steer clear of it, because it affects me so strongly.

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Ami Anne
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posted April 27, 2016 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
Hemilla,

I understand your concerns, in theory.

I've asked for some evidence that they are Satanists and so far, there is none. I would like to see links, pictures, videos, etc.

If they are Satanic, the question becomes, "Why is that important?"

Is the issue about whether or not Satanism has a sinister impact on those who engage with it? Maybe a subliminal impact? Is the issue that we should boycott these entertainers if they are showing Satanic tendencies? What is the issue, in your opinion?

Beyonce has never struck me as being a dark influence, but I saw some of her new work and yes it was dark....but that's not incriminating, to me. I think there is a place for expressing the dark side.

And as a fellow Pisces moon I know it's MY place to steer clear of it, because it affects me so strongly.


Much better. Thanks, Faith! If people talked to each other like this, we would have a much better forum and much more welcoming to newcomers

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Faith
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posted April 27, 2016 11:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Much better. Thanks, Faith! If people talked to each other like this, we would have a much better forum and much more welcoming to newcomers

I never said anything negative to Hemilla in the first place.

Athenegoddess is the one who cracks me up.

And she knows I like her AND I think she's a total weirdo.

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posted April 27, 2016 12:08 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hemilla:
I would like to say that it takes more than a lie for me to feel harassed - its maybe my square between mars and mercury,but i sometimes enjoy puting people like that on their place (ae - when they wrong me they recive portion of true preach)

The rest of the commenters i didnt feel were being mean,so ...i guess they are just posting what they think,and i dont have to agree.

Ami,if anyone harasses you call me,i can talk people out of their minds I just dont like when people are rude and when they lie,thats a sign of person not being on my levelof comunication ,so i have to get down to their level to make a point xD Also i cant rely on a decent fight with someone who has more authorety here,being moderator kinda gives you certain ''power'' and ''reputation'' ,and thats not fair,to lie like that when you are at that position like certain someone did.

I understand that even here you will find people who are sceptic,who dont belive in such things,who are not seeing things from my perspective and thats fine - i mean i will try to paint the pictionary my way,and they can do it their way - just without low blows


Oh dear me.. Sorry if you thought my comment was mean. Although I see how the rhetoric-questions style might seem harsh online.. especially since we don't even know each other.! I sometimes don't think through how conversational styles on here should be different than in person..
But yeah, so - your point was, religious symbols being used in non-religious contexts?

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posted April 27, 2016 12:13 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
[b]It's so interesting observing how an opinion on a certain subject can cause such drama with such ease.

This small group of people, of which it is obvious to see who they are, come on here to harass people.

Randall does not ban people for simple harassment i.e being a jerk.

Hence, people need to learn to ignore because these people are fueled by responses to them.

Randall used to tell me to ignore and I would think he was too weak to fight back, but he was WISE lol

[/B]


Go ahead & vent, I know you've been waiting for a chance...

@Faith, thanks

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Randall
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posted April 27, 2016 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aside from posting their charts in the beginning, there's no Astrology in here. Moving to The Spider Line.

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posted April 27, 2016 05:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know what to add except I have never seen such a heart felt(if antagonistic) replies before.

this thread makes me think of the larger view that is whether the "music industry" is trying to manipulate the religious views in this country and the world.
my opinion is that yes the "illuminati" is actively trying to undermine religious values that have added coherence to the American psyche since the revolution. clearly the new world order/illuminati/rothschilds are trying to destabilize the cultural psyches everywhere so as to gain total and political control of the world.

this first became obvious when president bush pandered to the evangelical right during the 2000 election. he appointed many evangelicals to scientific positions , he created a evangelic impulse In the military, especially the air force in Colorado springs were cadets were pressured into attending evangelical services. i am not attacking evangelicals ,please note this, what I am saying is that the government used religion to divide the country.
this was obvious because in the next election they dumped the evangelicals. obama's election brought in kabbalahic Judaism and kicked out the evangelical spirit.

there are many many videos and discussions on the net focusing on the"illuminati" symbolism that is being flashed all over the place.
I think psrt of beyonces trashing the bible fits into to this larger picture just as the demonization of islam is part of the destabilization of human cultures .

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posted April 27, 2016 06:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
Obviously not.

You're still here.

Just saying.....


Faith, some days you just pull those boxing gloves out of nowhere and jab.

I'm here just like 👀

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todd
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posted April 27, 2016 06:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by cchampliss2:
Faith, some days you just pull those boxing gloves out of nowhere and jab.

I'm here just like 👀


I second the motion

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posted April 27, 2016 07:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry?

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posted April 27, 2016 08:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Elysia:
@Faith, thanks

You're welcome.

Apparently some people don't understand what you're thanking me for.

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cchampliss2
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posted April 27, 2016 08:17 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
Sorry?

No of course not. I'm just saying...

Bob and weave.

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posted April 27, 2016 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami and I have been arguing for a long time.

quote:
No of course not.

You mean, of course you're not sorry for picking on me?

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I meant, "I guess I'm sorry" (?)

Not sure if I am or not.

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Faith
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posted April 27, 2016 08:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Off topic:

quote:
Originally posted by todd:
I second the motion

todd


Sorry I ever bothered you, todd.

I didn't mean for my words to affect you as they did. I shouldn't have been SO blunt...I thought the conversation would continue and you would see more of why I said that. I know a lot about natural health and had more to say. But after you called me a troll, I figured, no use trying to salvage any peace.

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Originally posted by Faith:
Ami and I have been arguing for a long time.

You mean, of course you're not sorry for picking on me?

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I meant, "I guess I'm sorry" (?)

Not sure if I am or not.


I didn't know you and Ami Anne have been arguing for a long time. Or maybe you mean specifically to this post. What I realize now is that I never made it clear that I am agreeing with what you said. That's all.

And I meant of course not, don't even feel like you have to apologize or be sorry for saying whatever you want to say. I'm not mediating anything here.

Edit:I responded to yours and Orange's and Doux's post from interpersonal.

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