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posted March 15, 2002 04:56 AM         

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Animal protein is not the same thing as human protein. Humans produce protein from amino acids, not from eating protein.

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posted March 15, 2002 10:49 AM         

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Randall~ Do our bodies produce all the protein we need? Do animals produce their own protein too then?

Um... amino acids, what is our source for that?

~Princess

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posted March 16, 2002 06:16 AM         

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All animals produce their own protein from amino acids. Amino acids are in a variety of food sources, but to get the complete chain, it usually takes combining them with each meal. Eggs are one of the rare foods that have all the amino acids (or so I have heard). Carnivores get their protein from the amino acids in meat, not from the meat itself, but they eat it raw, of course. Cooking destroys the amino acids. Bottom line: If you eat meat for protein (unless you eat it raw), you have been duped.

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posted March 16, 2002 12:17 PM         

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Randall~ Thank you for that info !! (I love that stuff)

~Princess

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posted March 17, 2002 03:38 AM         

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Thanks, Princess! I've got a million of them.

Eating animal protein also causes osteoporosis. Vegans need very little calcium. When we eat animal products, calcium is leeched from the bones to help the body assimilate the protein (which usually only becomes fat or waste). Milk is an animal product (and protein)! So, milk and dairy products actually cause osteoporosis! Vegans don't need calcium supplements, but meat-eaters do. The calcium in milk is virtually inassimilable by the human body, so heavy drinkers of milk think they are making their bones stronger, when they are really drinking a noncalcium source and stripping calcium from their bones in the process.

All calcium supplements should be a 2:1 ratio with magnesium to be effectively absorbed.

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posted March 17, 2002 01:10 PM         

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WoW Randall ! This is GREAT information... please, feel free to share all you care to !!! I didn't know protein leached calcium !

Makes me want to SUE THE GOVERNEMNT (FDA?) for SOCIAL MALPRACTICE .. or ENDANGERING my life.. or something like that!

~Princess

PS~ Randall, do you know what are good natural sources for calcium?

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posted March 17, 2002 02:03 PM         

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Randall:

Yes, please share everything you can; I want to change my eating habits but don't know where to begin! I tried giving up red meat years ago, but after several months I always felt weak, so I started eating it again. I tried three times, but the same thing always happened, so if you have any tips on that, please share those too.

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posted March 17, 2002 06:13 PM         

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Randall~ What are some of your favorite references/books, or recommended reading for this type of info?

~Princess

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posted March 17, 2002 09:51 PM         

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I just read an article in Womens World that talked about eating nothing ,but raw vegetables. They were saying that once you cook the food that it takes out a lot of the enzymes that you need. Its not as healthy for you as when you eat the vegetables raw. I remember I think it was Purple Lep. metioning something about this. My mother was shocked to have some of the things that I have told her about from this site confirmed in writing by a non-New Age stand point. I love the info that everyone puts in on this site even though I don't always show it. So here me saying thankyou to you all. THANKS!!!
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posted March 17, 2002 10:41 PM         

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Randall~ Everything you said about milk is correct. My mom never let me drink milk! Except for soymilk, of course. Personally, I believe most people would be better off without most dairy products. The food pyramid is such a lie!!!!!!!

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posted March 18, 2002 08:49 AM         

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Scully, you might be borderline anemic. Try an iron supplement, but stay away from ferrous sulfate (which is nothing more than rust).

Princess, you will really enjoy Fit For Life II by Harvey and marilyn Diamond. They substantiate everything they write about with references from medical journals. The best source of calcium are green, leafy vegetables, but if you eat meat, you need a supplement to get enough. Let me ask a simple question: Where do cows get their calcium? MOOOOOOO!!!!!!

By the way, to digest animal protein requires the release of a couple of hormones that adversely affect brain chemistry, thus causing anger, stress, and aggressive behavior. Meat-eating races (tribes) have always been war-like, while tribes existing mainly on plant sources for food (except for maybe a little goat milk or cheese) tend to be more Peaceful.

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posted March 18, 2002 01:10 PM         

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Randall:

I take calcium with iron and it lists it as ferrous fumarate. Is that one ok?

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posted March 18, 2002 03:05 PM         

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Anything but ferrous sulfate. What kind of calcium? Calcium carbonate?

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posted March 18, 2002 03:31 PM         

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I remember when Fit For Life came out. I had a hard time getting past the pictures of the authors, tho. They don't 'look' like the picture of health

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posted March 18, 2002 04:05 PM         

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Randall~ Again, Thank YOu ever so much for the info, keep it coming I've already ordered the Diamond's book II ...

VR~ My sister said the same thing but, I wonder ... do we really know what a *picture of health* looks like besides what we have been programmed to believe?

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posted March 18, 2002 09:06 PM         

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Randall:

Yes, calcium carbonate. Is that bad?

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posted March 19, 2002 03:32 AM         

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Really good point on the meat eaters Randell. Did you know that chimps or gorillas who normally are vegans will sometimes get a little crazy and eat meat. Kinda says that not only does it cause you to react , but that your crazy to eat it in the beginning. Missy

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posted March 19, 2002 06:19 AM         

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Not really bad. There are many sources of calcium, and carbonate is just the most widely used. By the way, what that really is would probably shock you. It's chalk.

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posted March 23, 2002 12:35 AM         

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Randall, you seem to know a lot about diet and nutrition, and the Rainbow Diet.

Can you (or anyone else) tell me a couple of things about the Rainbow Diet for plumpies (let's face it, NOBODY is interested in gaining weight!) that I am not clear on?

1. What happens if you need to take medication (such as insulin for diabetics, for eg)? Does medication interfere with the auric balance, or is it okay if your medication is coloured white or red? (which most I've seen are).

2. Where does flour fit into the diet? Linda says white flour destroys auric balance because it is bleached, but today flour is not bleached - is it okay now? Wheat products such as pasta and pancakes are listed as okay in the plumpie food list - is that because they come from a yellow-gold coloured plant, so even wholemeal flour (which looks brown) still counts as yellow?

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posted March 23, 2002 06:08 AM         

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I do not think medications (of any color) would affect the diet adversely. White flour is now okay. I would say you're right about wheat, but that is only an educated guess as to why. Sounds good to me, though.

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posted March 24, 2002 07:41 AM         

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Sensible answers, Randall.

I forgot the most thing though:

Most people are obese (rather than merely overweight) for medical reasons, nearly always imbalances in the endocrine system. Some of these medical conditions are extremely rare, while others are relatively common, affecting around 20% of the population.

Will the Rainbow diet have any effect on these people, or are these imbalances in the endocrine system a result of auric imbalances, and once the aura is balanced the body will follow?

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posted March 24, 2002 06:16 PM         

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That's a tough one. All dis-ease has an auric, emotional, and mental cause, but once manifested in the physical, some physical treatment should accompany the metaphysical treatments (in many cases). Also, some of this may be genetic. The answer probably falls somewhere in between both polarities.

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posted March 24, 2002 10:57 PM         

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Yeah, that sure is a tough one.

Something really interested me about cloning, which, as Linda and other true metaphysicians have always said, is very very wrong, and against universal law.

Cloning is still very difficult (a lot of potential "clones" have to die for just one to live), and survivor clones have what is called "true obesity". They simply cannot lose weight; even on a strict diet, they will die of starvation yet still be a big fat corpse.

This obesity is not genetic, as they can breed with non-clones, and the offspring will not be obese.

(Is anyone else feeling scared and angry by this, and Dr Frankenstein is going through their heads right now???)

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posted March 26, 2002 08:54 AM         

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Very wise words.

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posted April 06, 2002 07:45 PM         

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I totally agree that calories are not where it is at. Your metabolic rate, the foods that suit you, some hereditary factors, your planetary placements all contribute to weight. The water signs rising, Sun or Moon signs tend to be heavier. Strong venus influence for love of sugar and tendency to over-indulgence and laziness. Jupiter afflictions also. If anyone cares to give me their natal charts I can advise which foods are beneficial, plus colours and herbs. I am a certified nutritionist, Bach Flower Remedies practitioner and astrological advisor.

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