posted November 24, 2016 04:05 PM            

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I know that Fluoxetine can help Fibromyalgia pain and actually can cure it maybe after at least 6 month of use but you must have good healthy diet try to get plenty of the omega3 and vitamin b12 rich foods + try not inflame the pain more for example if you feel pain on one side of your body when you sleep always switch to the other side where there is no pain the point is don't inflame it make it heal also don't forget sports and its also important to get restful sleep as much as you can to heal.

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posted November 24, 2016 04:19 PM            

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Some doctors prescribe SNRI's also to treat Fibromyalgia pain maybe they work better than Fluoxtine for some but [b] in my case Fluoxtine combined with the tips i mentioned actually cured it.

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posted November 24, 2016 05:02 PM            

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Treating Fibromyalgia

THERAPEUTIC MEASURES
Antidepressant Agents. Although antidepressants have a lengthy history in the treatment of chronic pain syndromes, they have received only limited study in the treatment of fibromyalgia. The tricyclic antidepressants, selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs), or combinations of both, produce mild to moderate improvement in symptoms. In controlled studies,1 approximately one third to one half of patients responded to pharmacologic treatment. One study13 found that while 25 mg of amitriptyline (Elavil) or 20 mg of fluoxetine (Prozac) reduced the symptoms of fibromyalgia, the combination of the two was twice as effective as either agent taken alone. The dosages used are somewhat lower than those needed to treat depression. The older agents (such as amitriptyline) can be started at a dosage of 10 mg taken daily two to three hours before bedtime. This allows the peak sedative effect to be realized while avoiding unwanted carry-over sedation on awakening. The time of administration can be adjusted depending on individual patient response.
American Academy of Family Physicians http://www.aafp.org/afp/2000/1001/p1575.html

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Cannot take most meds used for agonizing continuous pain

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Should I try and list all the medications I cannot take?
I feel bad that folks keep telling me about them and other treatments I have already tried that did not work for me.
Sigh;
it is a very long list to say the least.

posted November 24, 2016 10:00 PM            

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I never sleep more than 1 and 1/2 hours at a time at best. Never have, in my 63 years to date;

as I have a rare type of sleep/REM issues, like going into REM in seconds instead of hours as other folks do.
Also when I have tried to use anything to make me sleep longer;

it causes me not to move which leads to black blindness episodes and varying degrees of paralysis, even affecting chest/ neck and well, any body part.

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I do NOT have Sleep Apnea.

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Lexx... That sounds like a specific drug side-effect.

I heard a discussion of those symptoms on a night-time radio several years ago. Shortly after that public discussion, a research study came out about specific side-effects of this certain drug-- Was on the news stations. Sleep paralysis!!! and for some, terror. (I'm soooo sorry. Can't recall the name of the pharmaceutical.)

If you're on benzos to sleep? ... THAT (and a few other drugs) may contribute to REM problems.

But then.... You're in sooo much pain! HOW can they/you really tell 'which' of these is the offender? So complicated.

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I had tried SSRI's in the 1990s right when they began to appear on the market. I was having strange side-effects. I can't take ANY of those, either.

One felt like sensations of harsh electrical shocks going down the side of my neck when I'd turn my head too far- ?paxil). A year or so later, there were many people reporting those sharp unpleasant shock sensations. Now, they include that as symptom on the pamphlet.

They realized at that point how very very sensitive I was (to that and other classes of drugs).

Side-effects can be sheer frightening, to even severely painful. Less is best... for some folks.

They had me on high doses of antihistamine-type drugs too (anxiety/panic) (and some for severe allergy). Took those for years..... BUT! Nobody realized at that time that this caused 'amnesia' in some people!!! Some folks even sleep-walk.

In the news they talked about some of these drugs...
.. One drug was ambien? another was lunesta(~?) (commercial with the butterfly). The news was warning people not to drive for the prescribed time period of taking these.

I had a close friend up north who was taking many prescribed drugs. She was in her 40s? ... Started to become soooo suicidal. We just couldn't understand it.
.. Researchers found that the depression drugs (my friend was taking) 'caused' her suicidal-depressions.

We had cynically joked about it back then, while reading the little pamphlets they give you--- but it was actually true. Loads of warning about that now. They don't let teens or kids, or seniors now, take these at all.

posted November 25, 2016 12:30 PM            

(Was active 2007 to 2015... but some info might still be useful to some. Certainly it's interesting to see 'how close' she was in some of the predictions made. Just offering this for pondering the medical portions of her article. It's interesting to follow how she thinks and interprets things using the astrology.)

posted November 25, 2016 04:27 PM            

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Leaving a website that lists some medical symptoms based on some of the larger astrological patterns that have prevailed in these past years, and will still be activated in the coming years.

(Was active 2007 to 2015... but some info might still be useful to some. Certainly it's interesting to see 'how close' she was in some of the predictions made. Just offering this for pondering the medical portions of her article. It's interesting to follow how she thinks and interprets things using the astrology.)

http://haforum.co.uk/lynnkoiner/

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When Saturn was transiting Scorpio - and it will return to this sign from June through September 2015 - issues connected with the Thyroid (psychologically, from swallowing one's words), Colitis from fears and situations that you cannot stomach, and back pain due from shouldering overwhelming burdens.

With Saturn entering Sagittarius, the most common health issue will be Sciatica, a very painful inflammation of the large sciatic nerve that runs down the back of the leg. Sometimes, the sciatic nerve is inflamed when our potassium levels are low (often from too much salt in the diet). If this is a possibility, Twin Labs Super K is the fastest remedy. However, sciatica can also arise from a fear of moving forward with the changes that come with the shift into this new sign.

Sagittarius shows us a vision of change. When we become paralyzed with a fear of change and moving forward, the leg is actually immobilized by the sciatic nerve. I experienced this years ago when Uranus entered Sagittarius. I knew that my life would totally change and I was afraid.

Since Sagittarius is a Mutable sign, fears and fear of change can impact the lymphatic system. This can cause inflammation of the lymphatic glands in the body, edema, ear infections, and sinusitis and, at its worse, a hardening of the connective tissues (Scleroderma).

Individuals who are set in their old ways may experience respiratory ailments when they feel that they cannot breathe under the demands of the higher standards of Sagittarius. When we feel under the pressure of criticism, health issues can manifest through the liver. This includes diabetes.

With any transit involving Sagittarius, it is essential that we be honest - in our actions and about what we are feeling. If one senses the pressures and demands of higher performance, be honest about what you feel and express this to those around you.

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posted November 25, 2016 05:39 PM            

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{{I put myself into your shoes, and I really truly don't know how you do it, Lexx!!! So tough.... You deserve admiration and such respect. }}

Lexx... That sounds like a specific drug side-effect.

I heard a discussion of those symptoms on a night-time radio several years ago. Shortly after that public discussion, a research study came out about specific side-effects of this certain drug-- Was on the news stations. Sleep paralysis!!! and for some, terror. (I'm soooo sorry. Can't recall the name of the pharmaceutical.)

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If you're on benzos to sleep? ... THAT (and a few other drugs) may contribute to REM problems.

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Originally posted by mirage29:

But then.... You're in sooo much pain! HOW can they/you really tell 'which' of these is the offender? So complicated.

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Originally posted by mirage29:

I had tried SSRI's in the 1990s right when they began to appear on the market. I was having strange side-effects. I can't take ANY of those, either.

One felt like sensations of harsh electrical shocks going down the side of my neck when I'd turn my head too far- ?paxil). A year or so later, there were many people reporting those sharp unpleasant shock sensations. Now, they include that as symptom on the pamphlet.

They realized at that point how very very sensitive I was (to that and other classes of drugs).

Side-effects can be sheer frightening, to even severely painful. Less is best... for some folks.

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Originally posted by mirage29:

They had me on high doses of antihistamine-type drugs too (anxiety/panic) (and some for severe allergy). Took those for years..... BUT! Nobody realized at that time that this caused 'amnesia' in some people!!! Some folks even sleep-walk.

In the news they talked about some of these drugs...
.. One drug was ambien? another was lunesta(~?) (commercial with the butterfly). The news was warning people not to drive for the prescribed time period of taking these.

I had a close friend up north who was taking many prescribed drugs. She was in her 40s? ... Started to become soooo suicidal. We just couldn't understand it.
.. Researchers found that the depression drugs (my friend was taking) 'caused' her suicidal-depressions.

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Originally posted by mirage29:

We had cynically joked about it back then, while reading the little pamphlets they give you--- but it was actually true. Loads of warning about that now. They don't let teens or kids, or seniors now, take these at all.

Take Care of you, Lexx...

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posted November 25, 2016 06:10 PM            

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posted November 25, 2016 09:30 PM            

And really I DO DO DO understand everything you are saying about the (I'll say) 'spiritual cause' of illness people. I've been were you are with that, and I remember how reductive and insulting those kinds of philosophies are. It's like being told to take responsibility (in the form of blame and shame) for 'your' condition-- like accusations that you wanted it, and signed up for the program on purpose, right??? awwwww. I know. Been there.

Like being abused... then they side on the part of the perp, and make the abuse sound like it was YOUR fault-- that you 'were a vibrational match' for it so you deserved it. How cruel some of that language can be!

Even though their language IS very difficult, I learned to approach them in a more detached way. Don't take 'blame'... That's a whole other shift in thinking.

I can understand how 'insulting' their language sounds though... especially when you've been grinding away at solving the problems, you're IN pain. When you're dealing concretely with your problems, trying to find one doctor after another after another... you just 'want' a little material-world competence along the way.

I also know your views on God. You don't deal with the spiritual world because it doesn't 'hold space' for you (pun). In order to benefit from faith-type teachings (spiritual, affirmations), you have to believe that that realm exists in the first place.
... So I DO understand how their words would upset you EVEN more. Their words interface more within faith and religion realms... even though they don't call themselves that.

You call it brainwash and snakeoil... haha, okay. I understand that point of view and can honestly see believing like that. I'm with you. I can dig your point! And, I think there ARE scam artists out there too... Mostly, it's the power of one's OWN mind. Researchers work on finding ways to 'trick' the mind into health, too, these days. It's like a new psychological (not counselling) science.

I remember the turmoil, and anger I felt when my ex2 used to tell me that the reason I wasn't healing, is because I wasn't using my faith. If I had faith then I would be healed. (And therefore, I'd be saving money on medical bills???) *jawdrop* It was a put-down...

I had gone to a pain management clinic a few months ago to see if they had any kind of alternative therapy for my own problem (neuro system). All they offer is to 'medicate' and nothing more than that, Lexxi. ... At least, here. I was glad I asked before spending the time (and ins money) on an appointment with them.

If they offer you any more surgeries, are you going to consider it?

posted November 25, 2016 09:48 PM            

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Gosh, sounds so weird and funny. Not snake oil, snake spit!!! (O gosh, don't mind me right now... I need a break here, sheesh. LOL)

Yes... some are giving botox in the face and skull for headaches too? That would involve spasms.

posted November 26, 2016 10:35 AM            

I'm not going to go into a long analysis...

It's soooo fascinating how these medical asteroids spell out a story.

I have your hubby's natal too, without a time of birth.

You are receiving some strong Chiron transits right now.

tPluto and tVenus together in Capricorn {{intensity!!!!}} ON your Chiron {wounding/healing} Capricorn H1 (one of the health houses having to do with your image and your body), with tHephaistos conjuncting them. This super-intensified the emotions behind the story. You probably know the mythology.

With Venus conjuncting your Chiron now, she's helping you to Value yourself, in spite of your obstacles, woundings.

You have Hephaistos-rx {born deformed, embarrassed Mom} in Taurus 6+ in the 4th House Aries. (4th House has to do with deep psychological foundations. It's a health house, and deals with your working environment too-- which would be your mind (all the things, the trauma you've been put through, going through all this)?
http://mythweb.com/gods/Hephaestus.html

tJupiter in Libra energizing (boosting and emphasizing the energy of) your Aesculapia "ruthless drive to survive; weakness in body" (trines your Chiron)..

The transiting Sun in Sagittarius is conjunct transiting asteroid Askalaphus (having to do with medical attention, and things pertaining to doctors or medicine).. This is moving through your 11th House of Networking right now, along with the transiting muse Hygiea in Scorpio. You have your communications Mercury there at 0+ Sagittarius in the 11th Scorpio...

Transiting Hygeia in Scorpio (Scorpio is 'hidden' and intense energy) is coming up on your Part of Fortune 26+ Scorpio, which trines (energy flows well with and connects to) your SouthNode-Hygeia 27+, 29+ Cancer... You're getting a lot of information here, on your (networking) thread, about health (hygeia).

omg, this information may seem useless to you.. it's a lot of jargon? I could spend ENDLESS time doing all this... oh noooooo. LOL

Okay, just a few more...

The transiting North Node (which is a calculated point that runs backwards, not forwards, like the other tangible astral bodies) is still in Virgo (directing towards and emphasizing health, health routines, alternative meds, details) (and natally you have a Jupiter {expansion-energies, luck} in the 6th house of health and every day routines --retroGemini25+. In mid-December (the 14th) there will be a Full Moon in Gemini ON your 6th House (health) cusp (brings things to full light?).

This tNorthNode in Virgo is coming up (by moving backwards-- it's at 8+ now) onto your Podalirius 7.52 Virgo in your 8th House. Now, I associate Podalirius with 'accuracy in diagnosis'... You have your Askalaphus there too at 13+ Virgo (and there has been a lot of sky activity associated with that--- including tPluto-tVenus in Capricorn (ON your Chiron) trining (flowing-energies with) that Askalaphus (talking about medical things).
{haha, private note?, tJupiter in Libra has been ON my Askalaphus Libra 10th... that's just for the astrologers who follow these threads}

Transiting Saturn Sagittarius is having a conjunction (consultations???) WITH Podalirius, after having contact with Achilles... 16+,17+. Today, tSaturn 17 has Achilles conjunction.... Achilles, aware and in touch with what your weaknesses are?

Anyways... this might not be making sense to you? oh nooooo LOL.

Using my 'imagination' and fancy? .... Transiting Aesculapia Capricorn is vising with your fairy, Lexxi.... (I know you like Fairies.) natal Elpis Capricorn 5.48 H1 trine (supporting) Hephaestos-rx Taurus 6.47 H4aries, trine (supporting) Podalirius Virgo 7.52. The transiting NorthNode energy is coming to LINK all these together. ... I'm going to Believe in Good Fortune for you Lexx... tHephaistos in Capricorn is coming up to your NorthNode at 27 Cap H1.

Elpis (the fairy of Hope from the bottom of Pandora's box... she flew out AFTER all the stinging ills were unleashed upon the earth, in mythology)

There are some other spooky connections, that I'll leave out...

But, I guess this is one of my ways of energetically pouring out good thoughts and healing-energies to others.

I was in tears this morning, thinking about your threads, and everything you've been through, and your hubby right now too.

You two have worked so hard, and you stay together... thick and thin.

That is SOOOO VALUABLE, Lexxi. Even though you both are going through such terrible things, you STICK together and take care of each other... (His planet and asteroid connections with yours are also very very interesting.)

What you both have together, as a loving friendship, adds Strength to your lives. I'm just amazed.... Amazed. Amazed at Relationships.

Wishing you BOTH Good Fortune, and many Happy Days amidst the pain. You STAND with each other..... How Beautiful!

Sending you Light, and Messages of Hope today. BE Well. Stay Devoted.

posted November 26, 2016 11:29 AM            

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I looked at your birth chart today. Specifically, I like to play with asteroids.

I'm not going to go into a long analysis...

It's soooo fascinating how these medical asteroids spell out a story.

I have your hubby's natal too, without a time of birth.

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Originally posted by mirage29:

You are receiving some strong Chiron transits right now.

tPluto and tVenus together in Capricorn {{intensity!!!!}} ON your Chiron {wounding/healing} Capricorn H1 (one of the health houses having to do with your image and your body), with tHephaistos conjuncting them. This super-intensified the emotions behind the story. You probably know the mythology.

With Venus conjuncting your Chiron now, she's helping you to Value yourself, in spite of your obstacles, woundings.

You have Hephaistos-rx {born deformed, embarrassed Mom} in Taurus 6+ in the 4th House Aries. (4th House has to do with deep psychological foundations. It's a health house, and deals with your working environment too-- which would be your mind (all the things, the trauma you've been put through, going through all this)?
http://mythweb.com/gods/Hephaestus.html

tJupiter in Libra energizing (boosting and emphasizing the energy of) your Aesculapia "ruthless drive to survive; weakness in body" (trines your Chiron)..

The transiting Sun in Sagittarius is conjunct transiting asteroid Askalaphus (having to do with medical attention, and things pertaining to doctors or medicine).. This is moving through your 11th House of Networking right now, along with the transiting muse Hygiea in Scorpio. You have your communications Mercury there at 0+ Sagittarius in the 11th Scorpio...

Transiting Hygeia in Scorpio (Scorpio is 'hidden' and intense energy) is coming up on your Part of Fortune 26+ Scorpio, which trines (energy flows well with and connects to) your SouthNode-Hygeia 27+, 29+ Cancer... You're getting a lot of information here, on your (networking) thread, about health (hygeia).

omg, this information may seem useless to you.. it's a lot of jargon? I could spend ENDLESS time doing all this... oh noooooo. LOL

Okay, just a few more...

The transiting North Node (which is a calculated point that runs backwards, not forwards, like the other tangible astral bodies) is still in Virgo (directing towards and emphasizing health, health routines, alternative meds, details) (and natally you have a Jupiter {expansion-energies, luck} in the 6th house of health and every day routines --retroGemini25+. In mid-December (the 14th) there will be a Full Moon in Gemini ON your 6th House (health) cusp (brings things to full light?).

This tNorthNode in Virgo is coming up (by moving backwards-- it's at 8+ now) onto your Podalirius 7.52 Virgo in your 8th House. Now, I associate Podalirius with 'accuracy in diagnosis'... You have your Askalaphus there too at 13+ Virgo (and there has been a lot of sky activity associated with that--- including tPluto-tVenus in Capricorn (ON your Chiron) trining (flowing-energies with) that Askalaphus (talking about medical things).
{haha, private note?, tJupiter in Libra has been ON my Askalaphus Libra 10th... that's just for the astrologers who follow these threads}

Transiting Saturn Sagittarius is having a conjunction (consultations???) WITH Podalirius, after having contact with Achilles... 16+,17+. Today, tSaturn 17 has Achilles conjunction.... Achilles, aware and in touch with what your weaknesses are?

Anyways... this might not be making sense to you? oh nooooo LOL.

Using my 'imagination' and fancy? .... Transiting Aesculapia Capricorn is vising with your fairy, Lexxi.... (I know you like Fairies.) natal Elpis Capricorn 5.48 H1 trine (supporting) Hephaestos-rx Taurus 6.47 H4aries, trine (supporting) Podalirius Virgo 7.52. The transiting NorthNode energy is coming to LINK all these together. ... I'm going to Believe in Good Fortune for you Lexx... tHephaistos in Capricorn is coming up to your NorthNode at 27 Cap H1.

Elpis (the fairy of Hope from the bottom of Pandora's box... she flew out AFTER all the stinging ills were unleashed upon the earth, in mythology)

There are some other spooky connections, that I'll leave out...

But, I guess this is one of my ways of energetically pouring out good thoughts and healing-energies to others.

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Originally posted by mirage29:

I was in tears this morning, thinking about your threads, and everything you've been through, and your hubby right now too.

You two have worked so hard, and you stay together... thick and thin.

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Originally posted by mirage29:

That is SOOOO VALUABLE, Lexxi. Even though you both are going through such terrible things, you STICK together and take care of each other... (His planet and asteroid connections with yours are also very very interesting.)

What you both have together, as a loving friendship, adds Strength to your lives. I'm just amazed.... Amazed. Amazed at Relationships.

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Originally posted by mirage29:

Wishing you BOTH Good Fortune, and many Happy Days amidst the pain. You STAND with each other..... How Beautiful!

Sending you Light, and Messages of Hope today. BE Well. Stay Devoted.

(music) I'll Stand By You (lyrics) [3:57] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuWAGT9ZkYE

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Thank you mirage29

posted November 27, 2016 03:16 AM            

I've been there too. "You're depressed because you did something bad!"

Ouch, that hurts me.