posted May 26, 2014 04:28 PM              

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Originally posted by Orange:
Atropos may have a pattern after all.

In my natal chart Atropos is on a leg of a tense T-Square - Mars-Saturn-Neptune, it's in the middle of it. I do tend to end things, especially past relationships, with lots of drama and an element of cruelty.
However, using Atropos in relationship dynamics, I just discovered that Atropos was very active in the Progressed Composite chart whenever a relationship ended.
The last time it happened - Atropos was exactly, at 0.07 degree orb, conjunct the MC in the Progressed Composite chart, squaring at 1 degree Vertex and Pluto.
If the relationship was to be short term ( which wasn't in this case), Atropos would have still had those aspects even in the beginning of the relationship, which would have shown an early "death" even at the onset of the relationship. Which sounds kinda ominous.

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posted July 16, 2014 02:09 PM            

Davidson: Atropos conjunct Karma by 1.93 orbs

Midpoint: Atropos conjunct Regulus exact square Uranus by less than one orb. Uranus opposes Chiron which is the apex of our Yod.

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In other words Atropos is the focal point of a tsquare and squares chiron in the 7th which is the apex of our YOD and uranus which is the reaction point of our Yod. Further transit Uranus was squaring exact chiron in the 7th and opposing Atropos the day we broke up.

A special friend:

Davidson: Atropos conjunct Karma by 2.15 orbs and also conjuncts uranus which opposes mars conjunct DC which is the leg of our YOD.

Midpoint: Atropos conjunct DC exact and this conjuncts by one orb Karma.

My husband and I:

Davidson: Atropos conjunct Karma by 3.01 orbs

Midpoint: Atropos conjunct venus by 4.19 orbs. We also have Venus squaring uranus in scorpio at 29 degrees. Last, our atropos conjunct venus squares chiron and chiron opposes uranus.

posted July 16, 2014 02:28 PM            

Our Lachesis is in libra but is not as strong, it semisextiles jupiter and sextiles Uranus. Lachesis also conjuncts almost exact EROS.

And our astropos conjuncts Regulus EXACT at the focal point of a tsquare involving the apex and reaction point of our YOD.

My regret is that we didnt last longer; almost a year, I would have liked at least 4 years to a lifetime. The theory really matches!

posted July 17, 2014 10:39 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I'm curious if your Klotho describes the way you met or the way you started your relationship (by sign, house, aspects).

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Fixed Star Spica is in libra at 23 50 and this conjuncts our Klotho in libra at 22d10.

We also have:

Valentine in libra 23 degrees
Mars in libra 25 degrees
Pluto in libra 25 degrees
Sun in libra 26 degrees
Saturn in libra at 19 degrees
AC in Libra at 18 degrees

Regulus conjuncts by .03 minutes our Atropos and this squares our DC and our AC. This also forms a tsquare with the apex of our YOD (chiron in the 8th) and the reaction point of our YOD (Uranus in the second).

We met at Club Space in Miami. He saw me in line first and was very curious about me. I saw him inside the club from a distance and was very curious about him, I felt a very strong pull towards him like a magnet and walked towards him and started to kiss him. We made out for hours without talking; some people approached us and wanted us to be in a gum commercial but I don't remember this clearly; my best friend and him informed me of this, I was too gone in my world with him to notice much of what was happening around me but I now see that Regulus squaring our DC and AC was present in our first meeting, along with klotho and Spica conjuncting our stellium.

Our entire relationship was VERY EROS so Lachesis conjunct EROS exact makes a lot of sense.

posted May 18, 2018 09:35 PM            

Klotho conjunct Saturn: Relationship feels fated from the start, interest in having something lasting together.

Klotho sextile Venus: Mutual Attraction brought you together.

Atropos conjunct MARS in the 7th or Mars ruling 7H: Sexual Relationship, Passion. Desire to be together. Fling.

My Partner and I (Composite):

Klothos conjunct Saturn, Lachesis conjunct Sun in Libra (Ruler of 7H) in the 8th with ATROPOS on the DC conjunct Venus: Fated marriage, marriage that feels inevitable, unbreakable bond. Tr Saturn conjuncted Composite DC-ATROPOS when we met and my natal valentine and his natal northnode. 11 years have passed since tr Saturn hit all that and we are still in a relationship and married. I tried to break up before getting married and I didn't go through with it.

Atropos on the DC conjunct our Venus: Fated to be in a relationship.

Saturn conjunct klothos: took each other seriously from the start, strong commitment to each other even when we were just dating.

Lachesis conjunct SUN (7H Ruler) in the 8th: Lasting Relationship/Marriage.

I think ATROPOS is why you came together more so about endings. In our case we have a very strong Lachesis and Klothos in composite so with Atropos on the DC conjunct Venus it just adds to that feeling of inevitability in terms of been together.

My ex and I composite:

Klothos conjunct Saturn: Relationship that felt fated from the start, Talk of marriage, almost got engaged. A relationship which both want for it to lead to something serious, INTENTIONS/DESIRE of relationship been lasting.

Atropos square Uranus (ruler of 5H): We come together to experience Romance. Relationship started out of the blue and ended out of the blue.

Lachesis conjunct Eros exact sextile Uranus 5H ruler: Biggest love story of my life. Relationship screamed deep passionate erotic love. Giving your whole heart away.

**Lack of 7th house ruler action in terms of atropos, lachesis, and klothos. 5TH house ruler was the focus along with EROS. It was meant to be temporary even if the intentions were serious bc of Klotho conjunct Saturn.

posted May 19, 2018 01:09 AM            

Klotho represents beginnings, the origins of things, and circumstances as matters are initiated; expectations of normal development; and preliminary conditions or understanding.

^^Initial expectations and circumstances as matters are initiating.

Klotho conjunct Saturn: feels fated, take each other seriously,take notice of each other.

ATROPOS means inevitable and I feel is the reason why fate brings people together:

VENUS-ATROPOS: Longterm LOVE RELATIONSHIP BASED ON COMPANIONSHIP.

MARS in the 7th conjunct ATROPOS, MARS ruler of 7H conjunct ATROPOS: Long term relationship based on sex, passion, desire.

LACHESIS is what the relationship develops into or its long term potential.

Lachesis conjunct Eros or Psyche: you actually fall in love with each other.

Lachesis conjunct Cupido: You think you are in love with them but is infatuation or the idea of love that you are projecting on to them, not the real thing like Eros or Psyche.

Lachesis conjunct Juno in the 5th: Potential for long term affair or affair that may lead to serious relationship or marriage. Fling that turns into something serious. Meaningful affair. Or coming together to bring a child to the world. Coming together to enjoy romance.

posted May 20, 2018 03:17 PM            

In composite, Klothos is in 2nd house Scorpio trine Sun/Venus/BML/Mercury stellium in 10th Cancer. We met on a blind date set up by a mutual friend, though we had both seen photos of each other and agreed to the date. We had dinner and drinks (2nd house/Taurus vibe), and there were many sparks (Scorpio, also trine to Venus).

Lachesis is in 7th, in Aries. Squares the stellium, though a bit wide. 7th house is angular, but Libra ruled. Cardinal in sign, so the purpose of our coming together may be to take action and in Aries, to move towards individuality through our relationship. It IS nearly conjunct the composite sun/moon midpoint, so I think this gives it strength.

Atropos in 9th Gemini, trine composite ASC. I think this may show that through the experiences we have together, we grow and learn and this strengthens our identity as a couple.

It hits our natal charts too, but I haven't figured this one out just yet.

posted July 06, 2018 11:45 PM            

Moira Conjunct AC in our Davison by 1d

Klotho conjunct Uranus in our Davison: It did feel like we met out of the blue and this feeling of "I was not expecting this," tr Uranus was conjuncting my 5th house cusp.

Klotho conjunct Saturn by 1d in our Composite

Moira Trine Venus exact in our Composite

Lachesis squares Sun by 1d and sextiles exact Uranus in our Composite

Chart ruler JUPITER in Libra conjuncts exact our SOUTHNODE in the 10th house and ATROPOS in Cancer conjunct our 8th cusp squares our NODES exact in Composite.

We have Eva opposite Adam right on our AC/DC axis in composite.

Then in Synastry:
His Juno conjuncts my Neptune conjunct Lachesis
His Juno squares my Sun conjunct Moira
My Juno conjuncts his Moira
My Atropos conjuncts his Southnode
His Atropos conjuncts my Northnode
My Pluto squares his Nodes exact
My Saturn squares his Nodes

posted July 07, 2018 07:51 AM            

Klotho (97): it shows the conditions at the beginning (sometimes for a specific event, sometimes for an adventure, a relationship etc.)

Lachesis (120): it shows the development stage of any situation, period, relationship or adventure)

posted July 07, 2018 02:27 PM            

Like his atropos on my North node shows we we were fated to meet, a date with destiny, that us crossing paths was inevitable. Tr cupido was on that conjunction the day we met. Also his atropos on my North node can mark a turning point in my life like he will help me achieve needed transformation and implement needed changes in my life so I can move forward in my North node path. He is an angent of change helping remove obstacles to me growing into my North node and moving forward in my journey so I can live a more authentic life.

Now my atropos on his South node and his Chiron means I am hear to help him transform and heal pain that he carries over still from the past that he has not processed or worked through. I am shaking up things from the past he needs to heal and let go off and let pass away so he can move forward more at ease with his North node journey.

Last our composite atropos squaring our nodes gives our relationship this strong feeling that fate is in control. It feels like something bigger is pulling the strings, yes we are drawn to each, there is a bond/connection hard to describe that feels kind of mysterious that I don't fully understand, the sex is addictive, our hearts pound for hours when we are around each other and when we cuddle but it feels like fate is in control more than our individual desire for each other although that plays a role of course.

posted July 07, 2018 03:22 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Ironically, no. I've found ATROPOS to be [b]inevitability. Not beginnings like KLOTHO, but more oriented towards making something that's inevitable come to pass. Perhaps that's an ending, in some cases.

It SEEMED to me that ATROPOS would be endings-oriented, especially being the Fate to cut the cord, but it seems more likely that she's putting forth what LACHESIS (120) has determined.

As you'd expect, LACHESIS seems more involved in instances of endings, or even death -- but only if those specific factors are there.[/B]

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Come to think of it, with his Juno conjunct my lachesis-neptune and square my moira-sun and his Moira conjunct my Juno, progressed composite stellium between lachesis-juno-serendip, p-composite mars conjunct Moira in the 7th and p-composite atropos in the 7th conjunct my natal dejanira and square his natal nessus, my atropos on his sn, his atropos on my nn, atropos square our nodes in composite... two things come to mind:

1. If atropos means inevitable with that Juno aspect lachesis and Juno aspect Moira double whammy ect, atropos' mission is for us to end up in a serious relationship, to remove obstacles needed for that to happen as this is fated, maybe, it feels that way.

posted July 15, 2018 12:16 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Come to think of it, with his Juno conjunct my lachesis-neptune and square my moira-sun and his Moira conjunct my Juno, progressed composite stellium between lachesis-juno-serendip, p-composite mars conjunct Moira in the 7th and p-composite atropos in the 7th conjunct my natal dejanira and square his natal nessus, my atropos on his sn, his atropos on my nn, atropos square our nodes in composite... two things come to mind:

1. If atropos means inevitable with that Juno aspect lachesis and Juno aspect Moira double whammy ect, atropos' mission is for us to end up in a serious relationship, to remove obstacles needed for that to happen as this is fated, maybe, it feels that way.

2. Progressed atropos on my dejanira square his nessus is fitting since we have a BDSM sexual relationship which can help heal past life stuff between us of that nature. It's possible he killed me in a past life. Progressed composite atropos in the 7th activating our nessus square dejanira is intriguing, my dejanira in the 7th falls in his 8th. Interesting that tr atropos is approaching his nessus by 5 degrees. Perhaps we have come together to work through nessus/dejanira karma we have, I can already feel significant progress with that.

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Yes, but the BDSM element to this can be a trap to your past life experience with this person as well, especially with the nessus/dejarnia connection you speak of.

So you think you are doing it over to get it right this time? Power plays of a sexual nature are just that. You may feel there is a deeper meaning but it all boils down to power and who holds that. As long as someone holds power over the other in a sexual relationship, IMO there cannot be true and pure intimacy. It is tainted with power. And holding on to that power is fueled by insecurity in most cases.

Is the sex amazing? Yes. Do you feel like there is a crazy connection, probably. Does it mean anything great? Jesus, that's for you to figure out. I am plutonic person and I get the whole power play thing, but most of the time, it's missing the true plutonic connection that makes each person grow into each other instead of the next phase with each other...or rather the next sexual high.

posted July 15, 2018 12:57 PM            

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Originally posted by llewsacm:
Yes, but the BDSM element to this can be a trap to your past life experience with this person as well, especially with the nessus/dejarnia connection you speak of.

So you think you are doing it over to get it right this time? Power plays of a sexual nature are just that. You may feel there is a deeper meaning but it all boils down to power and who holds that. As long as someone holds power over the other in a sexual relationship, IMO there cannot be true and pure intimacy. It is tainted with power. And holding on to that power is fueled by insecurity in most cases.

Is the sex amazing? Yes. Do you feel like there is a crazy connection, probably. Does it mean anything great? Jesus, that's for you to figure out. I am plutonic person and I get the whole power play thing, but most of the time, it's missing the true plutonic connection that makes each person grow into each other instead of the next phase with each other...or rather the next sexual high.

It's difficult to romatisize nessus and dejarnia....

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I love how he is in bed and how he grabs me, touches me and slaps me around and spanks me, it's pleasure and passion; also bdsm is about trust, he is not abusive at all. He has mars in Taurus opposite Pluto with Venus in aquarius, in a way he wants to seduce you by shocking you and by making you experience your senses during sex in a way you never have before.

You should look at nessus and dejanira composite chart with each other, it's very powerful. In Davison they have Venus conjunct Pluto square Jupiter.

But nessus and dejanira is just one astrological marker we have...

In Davison our chart ruler is the moon in the 8th forming a tsquare with Venus opposite Pluto in the 5th, Pluto is part of that tsquare and a Yod and a Mystic Rectangle.

posted July 15, 2018 01:06 PM            

“Desire becomes surrender. Surrender becomes power”.

posted May 27, 2020 02:53 PM            

I've just found this thread and I can't stop reading it. It is really intriguing!

Looking at our synastry my Atropos biquintiles his North Node. His Atropos also biquintiles my North Node.

My Atropos biquintiles my name in his chart and his Atropos also biquintiles his name on my chart. The degree is exact.