posted June 03, 2014 03:51 PM            

In Natal Chart, for women I have noticed Neptune square Mars suffer sexual abuse, date rape or attempted, ect.

If that Neptune person in synastry (male) has Neptune square Moon or some weird Neptune affliction while the female has a strong Neptune/weak Mars you can bet this is going to happen.

posted June 03, 2014 04:49 PM            

I do have my NEP square my husband's MARS, but 6°. Interesting enough, he's very submissive and 'baited' me to play the dominant role in our sexual relations. I have MARS and NEP in the same sign, but 20° apart.

I've most enjoyed the comfort I have in the relationship where his NEP is very loosely conjunct my MARS (10°) and his MARS sextiles my NEP, 2°.

I suffered badly in my former relationship: his MARS square my NEP again.

You may want to consider that it's circumstantial who is the abuser. As my husband sought the 'invasion', for example. I'm big on personal boundaries.

posted June 03, 2014 04:59 PM            

I have Mars conjunct Neptune and Venus square Pluto natally.

Mr Sag`s Mars squares my Neptune, no sexual abuse, but hey you`ll never know I suppose.

posted June 03, 2014 05:07 PM            

I haven't experienced it so it's just a question. Maybe if both partners already have the aspect channeled in a positive manner...It looks like immense energy brought in the physical to me.

posted June 03, 2014 05:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I keep a backseat and read and listen and possibly learn.

I have Mars conjunct Neptune and Venus square Pluto natally.

Mr Sag`s Mars squares my Neptune, no sexual abuse, but hey you`ll never know I suppose.

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posted June 03, 2014 05:13 PM            

ANYTHING can be channelled / sublimated or otherwise altered to a different course. NESSUS doesn't always abuse, but he will always transform - in a rather noted fashion. It's when DEJA's involved that you test his willpower. But that again depends upon his natal placement.

I think it's the same with MARS and NEP.

The friction of a square shows that there's some intensity there seeking an outlet. In his case, his 5H MOON-NEP natal conjunction incites him to submit to his fantasy matrix, which is a dominant woman. His own MARS is too far to square it, but it's making itself known in his 8H.

Perhaps, my NEP coming along and completing the latent patten was a signal I'd actualise the fantasy?

posted June 05, 2014 01:35 AM            

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Originally posted by starlitroad:
If anyone has this energy and has found a healthy outlet , pls do share. Sometimes I just feel I carry that vibe of vulnerability with me. Y would guys tell things about rape- they must feel smth coming from me...so I'd be happy to hear. Is not easy to heal oneself and those who clame it's easy: they lie.

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BDSM when practised properly, in a trusting relationship that provides security and intimacy, can be a wonderful means of channelling the darker and more complex yearnings and energies.

posted June 05, 2014 10:56 AM            

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Originally posted by starlitroad:
Thank you!

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More than welcome. Dominance-submission dynamics are already present in human interaction on ANY level. When we bring people into the bedroom, they become even more pronounced. For those who have heavy LILITH, PLUTO, or SATURN features, dominance becomes the default modus operandi; conversely, those with MOON, NEPTUNE, and VENUS prominent are going to naturally seek to submit to, rather than dominate, the relationship.

URANUS is of course frequently a factor in composites and synastry where the sexual dynamics are otherwise 'unconventional', as the mainstream isn't quite yet approving of alternative lifestyle dynamics. But, hey, it's a helluva lot better than it used to be. As a sex therapist who specifically practises in this area, I'm encouraged.

posted June 05, 2014 01:00 PM              

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
More than welcome. Dominance-submission dynamics are already present in human interaction on ANY level. When we bring people into the bedroom, they become even more pronounced. For those who have heavy LILITH, PLUTO, or SATURN features, dominance becomes the default modus operandi; conversely, those with MOON, NEPTUNE, and VENUS prominent are going to naturally seek to submit to, rather than dominate, the relationship.

URANUS is of course frequently a factor in composites and synastry where the sexual dynamics are otherwise 'unconventional', as the mainstream isn't quite yet approving of alternative lifestyle dynamics. But, hey, it's a helluva lot better than it used to be. As a sex therapist who specifically practises in this area, I'm encouraged.

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posted June 06, 2014 02:54 AM            

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Originally posted by starlitroad:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
[b] More than welcome. Dominance-submission dynamics are already present in human interaction on ANY level. When we bring people into the bedroom, they become even more pronounced. For those who have heavy LILITH, PLUTO, or SATURN features, dominance becomes the default modus operandi; conversely, those with MOON, NEPTUNE, and VENUS prominent are going to naturally seek to submit to, rather than dominate, the relationship.

URANUS is of course frequently a factor in composites and synastry where the sexual dynamics are otherwise 'unconventional', as the mainstream isn't quite yet approving of alternative lifestyle dynamics. But, hey, it's a helluva lot better than it used to be. As a sex therapist who specifically practises in this area, I'm encouraged.

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I do natal work regarding the natural dynamics present in all individuals: in what direction one is innately oriented and what challenges they're to face to achieve balance.

posted June 06, 2014 03:32 AM            

I have this with someone and he really likes to tell me what to do and I personally like that about him (Libra Mars). But since it goes against his nature to do that (Pisces Mars), he's not been like that with anyone else, he gets confused and is always apologizing and saying things like "I'll decide! ..... unless you don't want to".

It sort of makes me laugh, in my case. It's not nice how others have described it though.

There has to be a way to get beyond this. I really think astrology helps us figure out why we do stuff, accept certain parts of ourselves, but then rise above others. Maybe learning to recognize the signs so that you don't find yourself in that situation?

posted June 07, 2014 03:07 AM              

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
I do natal work regarding the natural dynamics present in all individuals: in what direction one is innately oriented and what challenges they're to face to achieve balance.

I'd be happy to take a look.

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posted June 07, 2014 12:20 PM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
More than welcome. Dominance-submission dynamics are already present in human interaction on ANY level. When we bring people into the bedroom, they become even more pronounced. For those who have heavy LILITH, PLUTO, or SATURN features, dominance becomes the default modus operandi; conversely, those with MOON, NEPTUNE, and VENUS prominent are going to naturally seek to submit to, rather than dominate, the relationship.

URANUS is of course frequently a factor in composites and synastry where the sexual dynamics are otherwise 'unconventional', as the mainstream isn't quite yet approving of alternative lifestyle dynamics. But, hey, it's a helluva lot better than it used to be. As a sex therapist who specifically practises in this area, I'm encouraged.

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posted June 07, 2014 12:23 PM            

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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
I have a good Venus, a exalted Moon, and strong Neptune. I reaaly prefer to submit. me being sexually dominant feels awkward

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posted June 08, 2014 04:34 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Aren't you fifteen, KarkaQueen?

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posted June 09, 2014 06:39 AM            

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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
I may be unmarried but I'm not dead!
I've been with my bf for 2.5 years. I'm turning 16 on July which is legal in most of the world.

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lol I wasn't going to call Child Protection anyway.

I thought from your posts that you'd be older, is all.

posted June 10, 2014 01:53 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
lol I wasn't going to call Child Protection anyway.

I thought from your posts that you'd be older, is all.

Yeah, I think turning 16 is still legal

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Could you imagine if they outlawed turning 16!?

Ah... I remember when.....

posted July 20, 2015 03:43 PM            

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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
Sorry if this seems like a strange subject, but I notice in Mars square Neptune there is a loss of boundaries and the Neptune person takes advantage of it and invades your space (sexually, usually for some reason) and the Mars person tries to bait the Neptune person in showing their aggression. Really unhealthy.
This is truly activated if they have an afflicted Neptune or Mars.

In Natal Chart, for women I have noticed Neptune square Mars suffer sexual abuse, date rape or attempted, ect.

If that Neptune person in synastry (male) has Neptune square Moon or some weird Neptune affliction while the female has a strong Neptune/weak Mars you can bet this is going to happen.

My personal experience too, because I have a strong Neptune/weak Mars and experienced this synastry with someone.
Of course this is just testing from the small collective data I did, I haven't done it for 100 people yet obviously lol but so far all my guesses (natally or synastry) has been right with this aspect (combined with the right ones of course)

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i have had this aspect with two people (my ex husband and a date that lasted 3 months) in both cases i was the neptune person. one of then had mars-sun afflicted by neptune and saturn. my ex-husband did not have such afliction. i also had the neptune trine mars in composite. that one was fiery, but i atribute to the mars-moon conjunction in composite.