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Diandra23
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posted November 16, 2007 03:50 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi DD

What if one has 2 Cinderellas in the day of the 1st Meeting and the other one doesnt have none? hihihi - cause i was having not even 1 while he has having 2 at that day. Kiron was making also a DW with Psyche. Which in our sinastry,his Psych conj my AC.(TROPICAL CHART)

iN the HELIO: he was having another one:kiron kikunkx Neptune(0º)
And ive noticed sth interesting there:Tr Kiron was conj his Isis/Valentine and his N Kiron was also conj Tr Isis.

iN MY HELIO Kiron was also enhancing my Isis-making also a DW.

tHEN,there is the Chart that overrules this one - the love relationship Chart.

In that:

- Kiron(1st House) enhances Moon and Isis and Osiris
- Venus is enhancing Saturn/Valentine/Psyche/AC
- Saturn in enhancing Valentine and Psyche

Transits:

HIS
-N Kiron enhancing Moon (trine)
-Tr Kiron enhancing Sun(trine)
-Tr Vesta/Valentine were trine his Karma/Osiris/Isis

ME:
- N Kiron enhancing Moon(trine)
-Tr Kiron enhancing Sun (kikunkx)
-Tr Vesta/Valentine were conj my Sun
-Tr Saturn was conj my Karma

HELIO

MY kiron enhancing Mars(Karma
Tr Kiron enhancing Isis

His Kiron enhancing Pluto/karma
Kiron exactly conj Isis

So,in almost every chart the most awaken by transits were the asteroids Isis/Osiris.

In the love chart seems both were on our Cinderellas when we first had profounded our relationship ( makes sense cause we also find when someone is a SM when 2 persons merge into each other in every sense)


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posted November 16, 2007 06:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Love     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry if someone already mentioned this, but what is the Magi's take on Juno square Chiron?

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aqua inferno
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posted November 16, 2007 07:09 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I guess Venus + tragic planet is a good thing

Venus-Saturn (commitment/stability)
Venus-Neptune (romance/sparks)
Venus-Pluto (passion/connection)
Venus-Chiron (healing?)

I would say Venus-Uranus...but we ALL know that's not a good thing

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EighthMoon
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posted November 16, 2007 10:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EighthMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is a great link for looking at natals, synastry, and transits. It gives the Magi definitions for tons of them...as well as geometry and some more obscure things.
http://www.jupitersweb.com/magi_astrology_aspects.htm

8th

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posted November 16, 2007 10:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EighthMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Love...here is the Magi interp for Juno Square Chiron:


[JUNO SQUARE YOUR CHIRON]
JUNO SUPER CLASH. This clash is a turn-off and normally has the immediate effects of disenchantment. It is so unlikely the two of you will fall in love, or become intimate, that the odds are very high that trying to get started with this person is a waste of time.

Drama, drama. 8th

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posted November 17, 2007 03:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Love     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Eighth Moon ~

Well, thankfully that Juno SUPER clash doesn't apply to me, but rather to two people I know. Hmmmmm....interesting.

Thanks for that

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posted November 17, 2007 03:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Love     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just looked at my own natal chart and realized that I technically have a Heartbreak clash in my own chart: Saturn square Chiron, 0 degree orb. Would the Magi Society consider that clash in a person's natal chart as having any kind of effect at all?

For example, would I be expected to experience an overabundance of heartbreak in my life due to this? Or in a relationship would I be more or less likely to be affected by the same aspect? Or more or less affected by a transit?

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posted November 17, 2007 05:24 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Love,

No, as far as the Magi are concerned, it isn't. It's considered an aspect that lends a need for isolation though, and unconventionality. They emphasize the need for a Romantic Super Linkage in the synastry of a couple if one or both of the people have this aspect in their natal charts.

This is their description of the personal/natal aspect of Chiron and Saturn (remember to read the very last sentence):

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Personal Aspect: This provides the native with the unusual ability to be a force against Judeo-Christian beliefs, morals and family values, and against marriage as an institution. This aspect also gives the native an ability to dominate the destinies of others, for better or worse. The native very often has a desire and ability to destroy marriages and break up families, and is often against the free enterprise economic system, preferring socialism or communism. Because this is a Saturn aspect, a turbulent angle can result in unconventionality. Especially in a woman, the turbulent Saturn-Chiron aspect is the SECLUSION ASPECT, with the native often living the last decades without a loved one. If a person has this aspect, there is far greater need to be much more careful about any involvements. In any relationship of love, a Romantic Super Linkage is required to offset this natal aspect. Please remember that all other natal aspects must be taken into account when analyzing a chart, and there could be offsetting aspects.
---

My interpretation of this paragraph is that the natal aspect adds caution and circumspection to our emotional natures. In other words, people who have this aspect do not fall "in love" as fast as do some others. And it is harder for them to commit and maintain a love relationship. Hence why the Magi say they need those Romantic Super Linkages in their relationships. RSLs are interaspects between two people that involve Chiron and two other planets in trine, quincunx, conjunction or parallel and contraparallel.

Cheers,
Tara.

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darkdreamer
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posted November 17, 2007 05:27 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Love,

I also have the Saturn-Chiron-square in my natal chart with a wee bit over 3°; in a natal chart they call it the "Seclusion aspect".

They write on this one:
"Especially in a woman, the turbulent Saturn-Chiron aspect is the SECLUSION ASPECT, with then ative often living the last decades without a loved one. If a person has this aspect, there is far greater need to be much more careful about any involvelments. In any relationship of love, a Romantic Super Linkage is required to offset this natal aspect. Please remember that all other natal aspects must be taken into account when analyzing a chart, and there could be offsetting aspects."

Well, as dramatic that sounds, in my case they seem to have a point there.
But in my chart Saturn is square Chiron, exactly trine Juno and exactly quinkunx Moon.
Seclusion describes my lifestyle very well.
Like I have an inbuilt feeling of loneliness and hurt inside of me, and it is very difficult to me to let others in, especially in a love relationship. A great fear of being hurt and abandoned and yet on the other hand also a fear of hurting others.
So, yes I do feel those difficult Saturn aspects.

DD


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darkdreamer
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posted November 17, 2007 05:33 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tara,

you know the description of this aspect almost made me abandon Magi astrology completely, cause I am SOO annoyed with their intolerant tendencies.

On top of that I think their interpretation on the natal Saturn-Chiron-aspect, regarding being a force against morals and family values are plainly wrong, and claiming Judeo-Christian beliefs are the ONLY right beliefs is downright racist imo.
I mean everyone has the right to believe in whatever (s)he wants, but noone can ever judge the belief of another person.
What is if someone is Buddhist instead of a Jew or a Christian? Do they imply he would follow the "wrong path"?
Maybe I am oversensitive, but coming from Germany with it`s nazi-past, I just squirm reading such crap.

DD

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tara19
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posted November 17, 2007 06:07 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DD,

Yes, they can be sooooo stupidly moralistic AND this Judeo-Christian crap bugs the hell out of me too. I attribute it to certain, well, elements in their group. Moreover, what the hell does that whole thing about Chinese Shaolin monks have to do with the Judeo-Christian background and ethics?! It's all pretty confused, to say the least.

However, and this is a BIG however, as you and I have talked about before, their research is gold. And it's proving itself every passing day. So I take it as the old saying goes: Trust the Art, not the Artist. I test their findings in my own way, and if I find it works, I keep testing it and applying it. And I try not to get too worked up about the blanket statements and just take it all with a pinch of salt.

Cheers,
Tara.
ps. I feel sad to hear about your friend. Here's a warm hug from me. {{{{{{{DD}}}}}}}}

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Vintry
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posted November 17, 2007 08:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vintry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"[JUNO SQUARE YOUR CHIRON]
JUNO SUPER CLASH. This clash is a turn-off and normally has the immediate effects of disenchantment. It is so unlikely the two of you will fall in love, or become intimate, that the odds are very high that trying to get started with this person is a waste of time."

that's very bad news for me! We have it - exact 0 degrees square, my Chiron square his Juno!

But... we also have:

My Chiron conjunct his Mercury (1 degree orb)
My Chiron Opposite his Neptune (8)
My Chiron trine his Pluto (5)
My Juno conjunct his Pluto (0)

His Chiron trine my Sun (6)
His Chiron sextile my Moon (0)
His Chiron sextile my Mars (2)
His Chiron square my Jupiter (8)
His Chiron trine my Neptune (2)
His Chiron opposite my Pluto (5)
His Juno trine my Sun (0)
His Juno opposite my Moon (4)
His Juno opposite my Mars (3)
His Juno trine my Neptune (3)
His Juno sextile my Pluto (0)

Please, tell me does it all look good or bad? I cannot understand because there are both make and brake aspects... So I would appreciate your opinion on this!

And also, his true node makes NO aspects to ANY of my planets. Mine is in sextile to his Mars (2 degrees orb)and Saturn (0) ONLY.

Thanks


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Vintry
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posted November 17, 2007 08:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vintry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And how could I forget? This thread is actually about Venus/Chiron linkage..
We don't have it :( we have my Chiron semi-sextile his Venus (1 degree) but it doesn't count, right?

As for other people, my dad's Chiron opposes my mum's Venus. He loves her more than she does.. My happily married friend. She has again her Chiron opposite her husband's Venus. And, again, she seems to love him more than he loves her. I meen, it shows. It's like one person appreciates the other more, is always after. And that person is Chiron. He/she (Chiron )wants to heel but Venus person does not allow them ((

And one couple, unbelievable match, they're so great for each other, they even look alike :) just got engaged but no Venus/Chiron aspect between them.

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posted November 17, 2007 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taurus80     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey DD,

When comparing charts are parallels used with ascendants too? sorry if this has been covered, but I didn't see it.

For example, Ascendant parallel anothers Juno, Chiron, NN, Jupiter, Mars, and Sun

Thanks

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Diandra23
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posted November 17, 2007 03:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DD,

I dont remeber of you talking about that dearest friend of yours.. im so sorry..

8Moon thanks for the link - you are always providing great stuff for us to go and search hihihi

I dont know about AC´s concerning Magi but it is always a good thing if it is enhanced by the other´s planets/asteroids

LOVE - Dont worry too much about that particular aspect in your natal..by their say on this it seams to me very radical and out of common sense,partiicularly the part of destroying others and being out of values hihihi - come on..I dont believe that a particular aspect would make a person like this -i agree with Tara and DD - maybe means a person who is more cautions in love than others.
Here´s what Cafe Astrology says:

"Chiron and Saturn
Saturn organizes and controls. The person with a Chiron/Saturn aspect will tend to be compulsively controlling and over organized. The reason could a fear of letting go, or perhaps they are still trying to please an over-restrictive parent. The other side of the coin would be someone who is highly disorganized and sloppy, or seems too fearful or depressed to make a move. A high colonic would be helpful here to remove that lead pipe (Saturn) from their rear end."

Vintry

You have with him

-understanding Linkage( merc/kiron)
- Cinderella LINKAGE,which is great (Kiron trine Neptune)

Regarding Magi they only count what´s up till 3ºorb.
And they also look at the Heliocentric Charts( so you can also serach for more aspects there)
You know many times in a chart it appears contradictory aspects and they play a role in sepcific times of our life.
For example me and my bf have the Kiron/Venus skuare,but that doesnt make the kiron one love more the venus person; we also have the trine in a wider orb which helps us to balance the "negative" side of the skuare:Magi talks about illusions and impossible dreams there.

You have to look at the whole chart and take the conclusions but not putting the eyes just on the radical perspective.

Surelly its not cause youve red: "the odds are very high that trying sth is a waste of time" that you would give up on living your Love with that person

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posted November 18, 2007 08:59 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Diandra,

"What if one has 2 Cinderellas in the day of the 1st Meeting and the other one doesnt have none?"
Well, the Magi probably would say then it cannot be your soulmate, if you met him while you were not in your Cinderella-time.
But we all know that the Magi`s are a bit, hmmph, absolute in their statements.
Also, did oyu check the Helios for Cinderellas?
And don´t forget to check the Helio`s latitudes, but not the declinations!
The orb here would be 0° and 18 minutes.

But even if you didn`t have a Cinderella, well, you KNOW he is your soulmate. And there is more than only Magi-astrology.


"o,in almost every chart the most awaken by transits were the asteroids Isis/Osiris."
I`d say if you discover such a pattern it`s more or at least equally important than Cinderella transits. And Isis / Osiris - do I hear a faint whisper of "soulmate"?

But you reminded me of the Helio`s again, and I was having a look at my Helio synastry with A. And it`s even more interesting than the Geocentric.

Cinderella linkages:3
Neptune quinkunx Chiron - (exact)
Pluto quinkunx Chiron
Chiron conjunct Jupiter

romance linkages:4,5
(Venus quinkunx Earth / Moon)
Neptune quinkunx Chiron
Chiron conjunct Jupiter
Chiron trine Mars
Neptune contralatitude Venus

sexual linkages:4,5
Mars trine Vesta - semisexual
Pluto trine Venus
Chiron trine Mars
Juno trine Mars
Mars contralatitude Venus

Chiron linkages:10
Uranus quinkunx Chiron
Neptune quinkunx Chiron
Pluto quinkunx Chiron
Chiron trine Mars
Chiron conjunct Jupiter
Chiron conjunct Ceres 4°
Pallas conjunct Chiron 4°
Mercury latitude Chiron
URanus latitude Chiron
Chiron contralatitude Mercury

Juno linkages: 4
Mercury quinkunx Juno
Juno quinkunx Mercury
Juno trine Mars
Juno trine Jupiter

Vesta linkages:2
Mars trine Vesta
Vesta conjunct Pluto

Saturn clashes:2
Saturn quinkunx Uranus
Jupiter contralatitude Saturn

other clashes:
Venus square Chiron
Chiron square Earth
Juno square Chiron

And this time I had a look at the Romance super linkages, too.

1. Grand Trine:
HIs Chiron / my Jupiter trine his Neptune / my Mars and trine his Juno

2. Mystical Triangle:
HIs Chiron / My Jupiter trine his Neptune / my Mars square / quinkunx my Earth / Moon

3. Mystical Triangle:
My Chiron quinkunx his Uranus square / trine his Venus

4.Mystical Triangle:
My Chiron quinkunx his Pluto square / trine my Venus

5. Yod:
My Chiron sextile my EArth quinkunx his Neptune / my Mars

6. Mystical Triangle:
My Chiron quinkunx his Neptune / my Mas square / trine his Juno

7. Mystical Triangle:
My Chiron trine my Mercury quinkunx / square his Uraus

8. Yod:
My Mars / his Neptune sextile his Uranus / his Pluto quinkunx my Chiron

9. Magi pyramid:
His Mercury latitude his Uranus latitude my Chiron

And there are some more interesting configurations, involving romance or sexual linkages.

1. Yod:
His Venus sextile my Mars / his Neptune quinkunx my Earth/ Moon

2. Mystical Triangle:
my Earth trine my Uranus quinkunx / square his Venus

3. conjuncted Trine:
My Venus trine his Uranus / his Pluto

4. Magi pyramid:
his Earth latitude his Jupiter contralatitude my Mars / my Earth

5. Magi pyramid:
His Mars latitude his Neptune contralatitude his Venus / my Venus


Impressive list, isn`t it?


To Diandra and Tara,
thank you for your warm words on my friend. We weren´t really close, but he was the boyfriend of one of my dearest friend, and it was just horrible.

DD

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posted November 18, 2007 09:49 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear DD,

You know i wish that A would be one of that persons you already met in one of the concerts hihihi - cause really that´s a very impressive sinastry to have - not only regarding Magi but in all Universe of Astrology!

And thats "only" the Helio :P OMG

jUST for you to know-- Magi says that meeting someone with whom you share 1 Mystical Tryangle is a very low probability but once you met, you are irrestibely attracted to each other ( me and Jonhy have 2 in the Tropical, so you know where that instant attraction came from hihih ) - but you have 6

I only can imagine an earthquake if you two meet one day ( if you havent met at this time of course)

What is the May Pyramid btw? What does it means?

I thought that Helios we looked at the Declinations..i looked at the Latitudes as you said in our 1st Meeting..guess what??

I Have my natal Kiron 3´22S latitude Transit Venus 3´28 S !!!!

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posted November 18, 2007 11:18 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Diandra,

"You know i wish that A would be one of that persons you already met in one of the concerts hihihi"
He is.
He is the one I saw in that play last week and in concert three weeks ago. You know the one I`m too scared of to talk to him.


"cause really that´s a very impressive sinastry to have - not only regarding Magi but in all Universe of Astrology!"
Yes, it`s very intense synastry, not the easy kind, but the kind that doesn`t let me sleep or eat for those last weeks. lol
But I turned back to our asteroids-synastry and Dracos yesterday, and it is impressive.

His Isis is exactly conjunct my NN and ASC
My Isis/Osiris is widely conjunct his Venus.
His Osiris is exactly opposite my Karma.
In the composite there is a Sun-Isis-Osiris-conjunction, which is conjunct both our natal Suns.
His SAturn / Chiron - Uranus/Pluto opposition falls onto my Draco Mars, ASC, Amor conjunction.
My Siva exactly conjuncts his SN and dr Sun.
His Moon conjuncts my dr Venus/Isis/Osiris.
His dr Venus conjuncts my Valentine.
HIs Valentine conjuncts my dr Sun.
HIs dr Karma conjuncts my Karma.
His dr Osiris opposite my dr Isis / Osiris.

And for those of us who like Siva / Kaali.
HIs Kaali opposite my dr Kaali.
His Siva opposite my dr VAlentine and tropical Juno.
his dr Kaali exactly conjunct my Moon.
my Siva exactly conjunct his SN.
my Siva exactly conjunct his dr Sun.

And if I just for a moment think of the Dwadchart.
his Dwad NN exactly conjunct my Dwad Siva.
my Dwad NN exactly conjunct his Kaali.

And there`s more... (I didn´t even look at Eros and Juno and Psyche here).

"but once you met, you are irrestibely attracted to each other"
I always thought that goes only for Mystical Triangles that are completely comprised of romance planets or sexual planets. And we don`t have that. Even though the mystical triangle of Chiron, Pluto and Venus comes close.

Also, I think it`s interesting that we have a Yod of Neptune, Pluto and Chiron in BOTH dimensions, and it includes two Cinderella-linkages (Neptune-Chiron, Pluto-Chiron). Not all that bad.

And we almost have a sexual super linkage, a Grand Trine of Chiron, Juno and Mars.


"I only can imagine an earthquake if you two meet one day"
you know about the "soulquake" he causes inside of me everytime I see him, as I constantly babble about him I fear.
I just think it`s unfair that only me feels that intensity.


"What is the May Pyramid btw? What does it means?"
If you have three planets parallel or contraparallel each other (declinations or helios) then they call it a Magi pyramid. But I think they only allow certain planets:
Sun, Venus, (Mars), Jupiter, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto and Chiron.
They claim it is comparable to a Grand Trine in the longitudes.

"I thought that Helios we looked at the Declinations"
Nope. Latitudes.

" I Have my natal Kiron 3´22S latitude Transit Venus 3´28 S !!!!"
See, Cinderella! And what an exact one!!!!

It`s funny, I was checking the first time I ever saw A live on a stage, and at that day he was having a lot of Cinderella-transits like Tr Chiron parallel Neptune, Tr Chiron contrparallel Pluto, Transit Venus conjunct Chiron and me, I was having NOTHING (except Tr Chiron trine my natal Chiron).

But then I looked at the Helios and the exact Pluto-Chiron-conjunction in the Helios was conjunct my helio Neptune - So I was actually having the Chiron-Neptune-Cinderella-transit, and a long lasting impression did he leave on me!
Interestingly that HElio Chiron-Pluto-conjunction also fell onto my natal NN and was conjunct his natal Isis / Osiris.

There`s something interesting about that synastry from a karmic point of view, because in the sidereal my Mars, Neptune, NN, ASC-stellium falls onto his tropical SN.

I`m really fascinated by that synastry, even though not as much as with the man himself. *sighs*

DD

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posted November 18, 2007 11:50 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DD, did you mean the exact helio Chiron-Pluto parallel was parallel your natal Neptune? Because there hasn't been a Chiron-Pluto conjunction in helio for decades. There is a parallel going on right now, though.

And Taurus80, the Magi do take Ascendant linkages into consideration. Except they say that the person who has the planet aspecting the other's Ascendant is the one who does all the feeling/responding.

I am not too sure about that interpretation because I think it goes both ways.

They also say that the Ascendant is sort of like the sun, so a linkage between your Ascendant and the other person's Venus would be like the Cupid Linkage (they call the Sun-Venus linkage that).

Cheers,
Tara.

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darkdreamer
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posted November 18, 2007 12:06 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tara,

it`s been a long time since I`ve seen him for the first time.
It was on March 30th 2000.
And astro.com sais, on that date Pluto was 11°07 Sagittarius and Chiron was 11°55 Sagittarius.


EDIT:
Tara,
what do you think of heliocentric astrology, as the Magi use it? Have you found it as true as the Geocentric one?

Also, regarding progressed synastry, do you think we can use the declinations for this, too?
I just had a look at our progressed synastry and found:
my pr Venus parallel his pr Sun
my pr Mars parallel his pr Venus
my pr DSC contraparlalel his Sun
my pr ASC parallel his Venus

DD

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Hi DD,

Oh sorry, yes, I do see it now... in 2000! Okay-doke.

Yes, I do believe that heliocentric charts are just as powerful as the geocentric ones. But you have to be careful about the orbs. I am much less forgiving about 5-degrees-plus orbs in helio than in geo.

Also, please do something for me if you can? Let's do some research (like the one you and I did before together on the Paul Westran progressed stuff) and tell me if you think that on a synastry level, the helio latitudes are much more powerful than the helio longitudes. I've been noticing this a LOT, especially when it comes to the famed Chiron-Venus linkages, but also the Mars-Venus ones. People who have these two linkages in their helio latitude synastry seem to get involved super fast (Mars-Venus) and/or fall in love super fast (Chiron-Venus). I'd love it if you could research this as well and let me know what you think of my hypothesis.

Anyway, I'm beginning to think that ignoring helio in interpreting synastry or natal charts is leaving a huge gap to say the least.

And yes, those progressions would work but I haven't researched helio progressions as much as I have geo. But all things considered, I think they would be just as powerful as the geo progs if not more.

EDIT:

Sorry, I wasn't thinking. Yes, those are geo progs of course. And yes, they would work, the declinations. Absolutely!

Cheers,
Tara.

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posted November 18, 2007 02:00 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tara,

"But you have to be careful about the orbs. I am much less forgiving about 5-degrees-plus orbs in helio than in geo."
I was actually using a 3°, max. 4° orb for the longis and only 18 - 20 minutes of arc for the latitudes, so I am on the safe side I guess.


"I've been noticing this a LOT, especially when it comes to the famed Chiron-Venus linkages, but also the Mars-Venus ones."
Funny, that you mentioned this. I have just recently noticed a pattern in my synastry chart. Every man I felt even slightly drawn to, had the Venus-Mars, Venus-Neptune or Venus-Chiron parallel / contraparallel in the latitudes with me.

The two actors I felt attracted to over the last year:

Orlando Bloom:
his Venus contraparallel my Chiron (0°05 - but we share this aspect also in Geo)

Jude Law:
his Neptune contraparallel my Venus (0°15)
his Chiron contraparallel my Venus (0°17)
- this gives us two super romance linkages, including Venus, Chiron and Neptune both in Geo and in Helio!


My two Musicmen:

P:
his Venus contraparallel my Chiron (0°19)
his Mars parallel my Venus (0°04)
his Neptune contraparallel my Venus (0°06)


A:
his Mars contraparallel my Venus (0°05)
his Neptune contraparallel my Venus (0°08)


There are two more musical-actors I like.
The first one is someone I just noticed that I do actually like:

J:
his NEptune contraparallel my Venus (0°20)

The second one is someone I had a bit of a crush on for at least 6 months.

U:
his Mars contraparallel my Venus (0°04)
his Neptune contraparallel my Venus (0°07)

Just see, how in every single case there is planetary synchronisation with my Venus!
And three times it`s their Mars-Neptune aspecting my Venus. *gulps*
I have a Mars-Neptune planetary ecclipse in geo myself, maybe that is the reason.


But now for the real research.

Paul NEwman - Joanne Woodward:
his Chiron parallel her Neptune (0°01)

Paul McCartney - Linda Eastman:
his Mars contraparallel her Venus (0°17)
his NPeutne contraparallel her Venus (0°14)
- Hey! They had MY personal attraction pattern! His Mars-Neptune, Her Venus.

Antonio Banderas - Melanie GRiffith
his Neptune parallel her Venus (0°29 - veery wide)

Johnny Cash - June Carter:
his Chiron parallel her Venus (0°00!

Johnny Depp - Vanessa Paradis:
his NEptune parallel her Chiron (0°11)

Stuart Townsend - Charlize Theron:
his Chrion parallel her NEptune (0°04)

Will Smith - Jada Pinkett:
his Chiron parallel her Venus (0°08)


"hat you think of my hypothesis."
I`m LOVING it! What are your results?

"
Sorry, I wasn't thinking. Yes, those are geo progs of course. And yes, they would work, the declinations. Absolutely!"
You made me a very happy and totally dillusional dreamer!

DD

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posted November 18, 2007 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EighthMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi DD and Tara,

I've been looking into the declinations for a while. C and I do have a "Magi Pyramid" with his Venus, Jupiter, Pluto (and Osiris, for good measure) parallel my Pluto (and Vertex) and his Jupiter is cp my Neptune as well.

I haven't really looked into the helios, and you said that it's the latitudes that you consider? Are we looking at the 1.2 orb again or are latitudes different?

8th

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Tara,

I can right now add to yours and DD´s research this:

I just discovered that me and Jonhy have in the HELIO Sinastry the Venus-Kiron LINKAGE -his Venus is latitude my Kiron(0º05) and i can say that we felt in love instantaneously and in a very strong and powerful way. In the longitudes we dont have that Linkage in the Helio..so I can say maybe it was the Doubel Effect of that Linkage PLUS the ones we have in the GEO: Kiron kikunkx Pluto and Neptune and we have a wider trine between Venus and Kiron

One more clue that the HELIOS may be as powerful or even more that the GEO´s is that on the day we met,John had 2 CINDERELLAS in the Geo while i only discoevered a Cinderella in my Helio Latitudes by transits( Kiron 3´22S and Venus 3´28S)

On the report that 8Moon kindly sent me Magy doenst separate the Contra or Paralell-they consider both as Linkages.so i went see the CHarts DD talked about ( but this time in the LATITUDES)

DAY WE MET

-my n Kiron lat Tr Venus(0º06)
- my n venus lat Tr Venus( 0º0)
- my n Venus lat Tr Valentine( 0º18)/Tr Destiny(0º19)
- my n Jup lat Tr Neptune(0º10)
- my n Saturn lat Tr Jup(0º13)
- my n Vesta lat Tr Juno(0º03)
- my n Osiris lat Tr Amor( 0º03)
my n Isis lat TR Valentine (0º17)/Tr Destiny(0º16)

- His n Juno Lat Tr Amor(0º01)
- His N vAlentine lat tr Kaali(0º15)
- n Amor lat Tr vEsta(0º15)
- n Kaali lat Tr Nep(0´17)/ Tr Sat(0º18)
- n Union lat Tr Vesta(0º03)/Tr Merc(0º16)

SINASTRY ( GEO) DECLINATIONS

-His Sun p my Amor(0º18)
-Moon cp my mars/kiron/osiris/vesta
-Venus cp my Mars ( here it is the instanct involvement-as we have the skaure also)-cp my Amor
-Mars p my Neptune
- jup cp my pallas
- Saturn cp my juno
- pluto p my Venus ( could this be felt as a conjunction?) and Union
- NN p my NN (0º05) and Destiny(0º01)
- VX p y Nep/Destiny
-Ceres CP My Jup/karma/valentine/isis
-Juno Cp my kaali
- Vesta CP MY NN and Destiny
- VALENTINE cp my Jup/Uranus and P my KARMA(0º06)/VALENTINE(0º27)/ISIS(0º07)
- Union cp my Karma/Valentine/isis
Destiny P My Moon(0º7)

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-mY Moon P his Kiron(0º22) and Destiny(0º7)
- Merc CP his Amor - DW
- Venus CP his Pluto(1º15) - is too wide?
- Venus P hsi AMor - DW again
- my AC CP his Pluto(0º7) and hid IC(1º03)

His AC P my Valentine(0º08) and Karma(0º25)

Here again i notice that not only Isis and Osiris have value but significantly,the asteroids Union and Destiny ( whichh in sinastry,both my Union/Destiny conj his AC in 0ºorb...)

Now here it comes the latitudes in our HELIO SINASTRY ( it is in a 0º18 orb)

- his earth/moon lat my Eart/Moon(0º08)
- his Merc lat my karma (0º08)
- his VENUS lat my VENUS ( 0º01)-almost exact
- his VENUS lat my KIRON (0º05)-CINDERELLA
- hIS Venus lat my Valentine( 0º17)
- his mars lat my mars(0º10)
- his jup lat my neptune(0º10)
- his SATURN lat my Saturn(0º17)/ kaali(0º08) and osiris(0º17º)
- Valentine lat my mars(0º16), neptune(0º13)
- His Amor lat my Juno( 0º18)
- his ISIS lat my KARMA(0º05)
- his UNION is lat my JUNO(0º0´3 SECONDS)

-his DESTINY is lat my KARMA(0º05)

MagI doenst use these asteroids but in my sinastry as well as 1stMeeting CHart they seem very powerful and meaningful in our Love conection

SO,it seems that Helio are very powerful also,where we find more clues to this unexplicable and instant attraction and love we feel for someone we just met this lifetime

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