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Topic: Mir - progressed synastry
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Ceridwen unregistered
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posted July 26, 2014 04:48 AM
funny enough his p Sun/Moon-mp was on 19.22 Cap, and when we sort of bumped into each other 2 months later, it was at 20.42 Cap, pretty close to my own n Sun/Moon-mp on 21.31 Cap, and naturally on my n Avx. btw my p Sun/Moon was conjunct n Juno and p Jupiter for me. his p Sun/Moon was opposite p Juno for him
Which was kinda a theme, as Tr Jupiter conjunct my n Sun/Moon-mp conj. composite Moon Tr Juno conjunct his n Sun/Moon-mp conj composite Sun
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posted July 26, 2014 05:42 AM
I checked my friend, who had been, well friends for some years, and then got together (it is a bit difficult to say when exactly, they sort of just glided into a relationship. lol)They "agreed" on december 2000 as starting date, and I agree, cause I have seen them dance together. She was a semi professional dancer and choreograph and he for a time was part of her troup (just to be close to her, cause he had a major crush on her for a long time. lol). They performed a dance performance to "Poison" by Alice Cooper, and well after that even SHE could deny their chemistry anylonger. So the date november/ december 2000 makes sense.
He was having pr Moon conjunct his n Sun which would have been exact in november. Funny enough his pr Sun was in the same sign as his n Moon as well, 7 degrees applying so that would come into play later.
She was almost having a p-n fullmoon, though the orb was too wide still, but at leat the signs fit. pr Moon on 8 Pisces, n Sun on 18 Virgo maybe equally important her p Sun-Pluto had just transited over her natal Venus-Mars-Pluto (and Mercury a few years before) This p Sun on 12 Libra was also 3-4 degrees applying to an opposition to her n Moon on 15 Aries.
At the time of their wedding: his p Sun applying to a conjunction to his n Moon 1.20 his p Venus havng just passed his n ASC (1 s) applying to a conjunction with his n Sun (2,5a) Her p Sun by now separating from the opposition to her n Moon (1.54 s) There was no other Sun-Moon-progression at play unless we count her p Moon inconjunct her p Sun (2 a), but not a 4th harmonic aspect.
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posted July 26, 2014 05:51 AM
another couple who had to "agree" on a beginning date, cause somehow the exact moment was hard to pinpoint, are my brother and his girlfriend (they agreed on the 1st april 2006. lol)He was having p Sun in 8 Aries and p Moon on 15 Libra, so his very personal fullmoon was a few months prior to this, a year maybe? let me check. September 2005, and in spring 2004 he was having p Moon opposing n Sun. this might have been about the time they first met. On 1st april 2006 his p Moon was exactly quinkunx n Sun by one minute of orb. lol She was not having an exact aspect, however her p Moon was in Cancer (7 degrees) and her p Sun in Aries (18 degrees)
She also started a new Venus-cylce with p Venus on 00 Aries. Actually she was having the p Moon square n Sun in june 2005, which might have been around the time they originally got together; they had been trying to split a few months into the relationship but somehow bounced back together.
Interestingly natally she has a full moon and my brother a quarter Moon in terms of natal moon phases.
When they met and got together it was him experiencing the full moon and her having the quarter moon. lol
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posted July 26, 2014 06:11 AM
I just read in a book on progressions to take the date, on which your pr Moon is conjunct your n Sun exact and check the transits for that day to your chart, as it would show what the next 28 years would bring.Just doing that, and see pr Sun 25.54 Cap pr Venus 26.15 Cap rx Funny thing is Mr Sag`s n Venus is on 25.55 Cap. Of course we did not know each other back then - too bad though. Though I DO Vaguely remember a trip home from a wedding in his hometown where a nice young man had offered to bring me to the central station which was quite far away. I do not remember the young man`s name though. lol He must have been his age though, as he had just had his driving licence, and he completely irked me for some reason. I remember THAT. But well that would be too much of a coincidence, and my memory is not that great anyway. lol Besides my personal New moon actually had Neptune sitting on the Sun-Venus as well. lol Figures.
Pluto right on my ASC, surely.
A Mars-Jupiter-conjunction in Aquarius
a Moon-pluto-square and other nice stuff like this. oh and Juno-BML on my natal Pluto. lol
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posted July 26, 2014 06:15 AM
quote: Originally posted by Nine: Yes. The pLuminaries as well as pMoon-nSun appears to be the key decider of a relationship's potential. Excellent for timing.
True. What's interesting about these couples is at the time of marriage there weren't any significant Sun/Moon aspect. However, according to wiki, at time of first meeting all four had Sun/Moon in the 4th harmonic. Joanne - Aries/Capricorn Paul Newman - Pisces/Pisces Linda - Libra/Libra Paul McC - Cancer/Cancer Very interesting. About the square as trigger. ------------------
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posted July 26, 2014 06:16 AM
Leeloo,were these in aspect or is the sign enough? IP: Logged |
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posted July 26, 2014 06:19 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: I just read in a book on progressions to take the date, on which your pr Moon is conjunct your n Sun exact and check the transits for that day to your chart, as it would show what the next 28 years would bring.Just doing that, and see pr Sun 25.54 Cap pr Venus 26.15 Cap rx Funny thing is Mr Sag`s n Venus is on 25.55 Cap. Of course we did not know each other back then - too bad though. Though I DO Vaguely remember a trip home from a wedding in his hometown where a nice young man had offered to bring me to the central station which was quite far away. I do not remember the young man`s name though. lol He must have been his age though, as he had just had his driving licence, and he completely irked me for some reason. I remember THAT. But well that would be too much of a coincidence, and my memory is not that great anyway. lol Besides my personal New moon actually had Neptune sitting on the Sun-Venus as well. lol Figures.
Pluto right on my ASC, surely.
A Mars-Jupiter-conjunction in Aquarius
a Moon-pluto-square and other nice stuff like this. oh and Juno-BML on my natal Pluto. lol
28 years...wow that much? Because of the 28 days cycle? ------------------
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posted July 26, 2014 06:22 AM
For me that obviously means I was/am having opportunities around these peaks: feb 2000: p Moon conj. p Sun4 july 2005: p Moon square n Sun may 2008: p Moon square p Sun july 2012: p Moon opposite n Sun may 2015: p Moon opposite p Sun july 2018: p Moon square n Sun dec 2021: p Moon square p Sun
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posted July 26, 2014 06:23 AM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: 28 years...wow that much? Because of the 28 days cycle?
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posted July 26, 2014 06:27 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: For me that obviously means I was/am having opportunities around these peaks: feb 2000: p Moon conj. p Sun4 july 2005: p Moon square n Sun may 2008: p Moon square p Sun july 2012: p Moon opposite n Sun may 2015: p Moon opposite p Sun july 2018: p Moon square n Sun dec 2021: p Moon square p Sun
Do you think these are general or they are somehow related to the houses? (I assume the house of the Moon? or perhaps the one the Moon rules??) ------------------
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posted July 26, 2014 06:28 AM
mr Sag`s windows: december 2001: p Moon square p Sun April 2007: p Moon conj. n Sun may 2009: p Moon conj. p Sun june 2013: p Moon squrae n Sun january 2016 p Moon squares p Sun haven`t really looked further.
Anyway interestingly he was not having an aspect when a very committed relationship for him formed (they were together 7 years or so).
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posted July 26, 2014 06:32 AM
What do you mean? ust following Nine`s lead, I think she said it is general. Well for me Moon rules the 8th house natally, and my Sun is conjunct my 7th house ruler anyway. lol So at least if n Sun is triggered, the 7th house ruler is triggered as well, a few months before actually. the p Moon runs of course through the zodiac, but for example when i met mr sag and p Sun squraed p Moon, that Moon was on the cusp of my 5th house and ruling the 7th, which it is going to rule for a LOOOOOOONG time. my pDESC went into Cancer in about 2003 I think, and has only travelled a third of it. Additionally nowadays my pr Moon in Cancer and later in Leo will spend some time in my pr 7th house, as it is so big. IP: Logged |
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posted July 26, 2014 06:43 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: What do you mean? ust following Nine`s lead, I think she said it is general. Well for me Moon rules the 8th house natally, and my Sun is conjunct my 7th house ruler anyway. lol So at least if n Sun is triggered, the 7th house ruler is triggered as well, a few months before actually. the p Moon runs of course through the zodiac, but for example when i met mr sag and p Sun squraed p Moon, that Moon was on the cusp of my 5th house and ruling the 7th, which it is going to rule for a LOOOOOOONG time. my pDESC went into Cancer in about 2003 I think, and has only travelled a third of it. Additionally nowadays my pr Moon in Cancer and later in Leo will spend some time in my pr 7th house, as it is so big.
Then I'm thinking the "opportunity" should be related to the phouse the Moon transits when the aspect is within orb, no? Or is it supposed to be about relationships in all cases (being Sun/Moon)...I was just wondering  ------------------
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posted July 26, 2014 06:51 AM
no idea, reallyin 2005 p Moon was in Pisces in my natal 3rd house (p 2nd) in 2008 p Moon was in Taurus conjunct natal 5th house cusp (p 3rd) in 20012 p Moon in Gemini in natal 7th house (p 6th)
in 2015 p Moon in Leo in natal 8th house (p 7th) in 2018 p Moon in Virgo (exact on mr Sag`s DESC. lol) in my natal 9th house (p9th) Dec 2021 p Moon in Scorpio in my 11th (p 9th)
and so on, well my p Moon does end up in relationship houses from where it 4th harmonic aspects the Sun, but what about people who will NOT have pr Moon in the 5th, 7th or 8th house when it activates Sun?
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posted July 26, 2014 07:02 AM
Looking at some couples in my database:Wallis Simpson FQ Edward Windsor Diss Rita Wilson Diss Tom Hanks NM Goldie Hawn FM Kurt Russel FQ Marie Curie FQ Pierre Curie Gibb Melanie Griffith FM Antonio Banderas Diss Michael Douglas FQ Catherine Zeta Gibb Iman LQ David Bowie FM Meryl Streep NM Don Gummer FQ Not many couples apparently have the same Moon phase...perhaps only twinflames do?  Just kidding...although who knows...I'm sure however the phase of the Moon is just one factor in the overall compatibility/incompatibility, related to the perfect rate of similarity/complementarity. ------------------
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posted July 26, 2014 07:10 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: no idea, reallyin 2005 p Moon was in Pisces in my natal 3rd house (p 2nd) in 2008 p Moon was in Taurus conjunct natal 5th house cusp (p 3rd) in 20012 p Moon in Gemini in natal 7th house (p 6th)
in 2015 p Moon in Leo in natal 8th house (p 7th) in 2018 p Moon in Virgo (exact on mr Sag`s DESC. lol) in my natal 9th house (p9th) Dec 2021 p Moon in Scorpio in my 11th (p 9th)
and so on, well my p Moon does end up in relationship houses from where it 4th harmonic aspects the Sun, but what about people who will NOT have pr Moon in the 5th, 7th or 8th house when it activates Sun?
Yes, indeed, perhaps, it's not house related...However, looking at when my relationships started: with my ex: Moon sextile Sun (sep) with Moon in 7th house and on progressed DSC in Leo (plus both Moon and Sun are my 7th house rulers) with current: Moon square Sun (appl) with Moon in natal 1st, 4 deg on ASC, Moon in progr 11th but because they are 7th rulers, my case can be misleading
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posted July 26, 2014 07:16 AM
with your ex you also had a sextile, not a 4th harm. aspect, which is interesting. IP: Logged |
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posted July 26, 2014 07:32 AM
yes, indeed...looking at them:Ex had Moon appl to Sun in conjunction, Moon in progressed 5th (his natal Moon rules his 12th) Pluto Man had Moon appl to Sun in conjunction in 6th last year, now Moon conjunct Sun on progressed DSC (Moon rules his natal 10th) You know what I'm thinking now, Ceri?
Our natal 5th house ruler should be strongly aspected in progressions when and if we fall in love, both in progressed, progressed to progressed and prog to natal, and for both or in mutual aspect if they both fall in love and I'm about to check that. And the 7th ruler if we enter a partnership. But I'll start with the 5th. ------------------
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posted July 26, 2014 07:43 AM
quote: Do you think these are general or they are somehow related to the houses? (I assume the house of the Moon? or perhaps the one the Moon rules??)
General. quote: For me that obviously means I was/am having opportunities around these peaks:
Also keep in mind Venus activity in the pChart & transits (eg. I'm sensitive to Sun conj Venus in SR chart, which happens for me every leap year). In 1996 I had; pSun conj pMoon, pVenus conj nSun, Sun conj Venus in SR chart - BIG relationship year when my dream love honestly wanted something real. I was young and foolish and this scared me. quote: Very interesting. About the square as trigger.
Yes. An applying square in the Newman's case. My Grandma had Cancer-Aries (separating square) the year she met my Grandfather - he had a New Moon. They married a year later. IP: Logged |
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posted July 26, 2014 08:58 AM
Actually, I checked bothMy 5th/8th ruler is Mercury (it makes things easier hahaha) My direct 7th ruler - Moon intercepted: Sun Beginning of relationships
First ex His 5th ruler: Moon His 7th ruler: Sun His pMoon was trining his pSun EXACT! hahaha this is amazing! 23 Cap Moon to 23 Taurus Sun that day Moon was in p11th, making a Grand Trine with his pSun/Saturn and his pPluto. Moon in appl square to his pVenus/Merc in p1st. I had Merc in p8th, practically unaspected for progressions! Merc in a sep out of sign conjunction to Uranus (7) and in a trine with Jupiter (5) - It looks like this is the only aspect to my 5th ruler for a long time (Mercury trine Jupiter). My Moon conjunct Chiron exact, in an appl square to Saturn in p2nd. Progressed to progressed shows: his 5th squares my 7th opp Saturn (DSC planet) - I think we can see here that our relationship became official nothing with his 7th my 5th squares his Mars, appl my 7th conjunct his Venus in 1st, appl my other 7th conjunct his Uranus exact, in his p7th - Uranus, his natal ASC ruler Progressed to natal shows:
his 5th conjunct my natal ASC, making multiple contacts to my chart his 7th conjunct my natal IC, in my 4th, making multiple contacts with my chart my 5th in his 8th opp his 7th, sep my 7th in his 2nd square his Mars, appl my 7th in his 7th appl to Uranus and trine to IC Ex 2: His 5th ruler: Jupiter his 7th ruler: Uranus
his 5th was in his p7th, and pVenus on his pDSC EXACT, Venus appl to 5th- no other aspect his 7th was in his p2nd, peregrine - very interesting this one my 5th sep from Jupiter, still in 8th my 7th on pDSC sextile Sun and Mars my 7th (Sun) conj Mars in the 8th in perfect applying square to Saturn - this is SO interesting, my Saturn connection
Progressed to progressed shows:
his 5th in my 1st, trine Saturn his 7th in my 8th, nada my 5th square his Moon, sep my 7th (Moon) opp his Sun, sep my 7th (Sun) square his Mars, appl, trine his Moon/Sun, appl Progressed to natal shows:
his 5th in my 2nd, opp my Sun, sep, trine my DSC and MC, multiple contacts his 7th in my 9th (he was a foreigner) sextile my natal Venus, sep my 5th conjunct his IC, trine his 5th and Saturn, appl, square his Venus, sep my 7th (Moon) conjunct his ASC EXACT! and multiple contacts my 7th (Sun) square his Sun, appl, trine his DSC
Pluto Man:
His 5th: Uranus His 7th: Neptune He had pUranus conjunct ASC (2) opp Sun on DSC, Moon approaching DSC. Neptune in 2nd square Jupiter/Venus, Venus sep. I had the same Mercury trine Jupiter, applying - it looks like this takes such a long time??? Jupiter retro, Jupiter rules my 11th. My 7th (Moon) opp Saturn (AGAIN) squaring everything: Sun, Venus, Mars, Uranus (in 7th to 8th) Sun conjunct Uranus exact Progressed to progressed shows: his 5th in my 7th, conjunct Venus EXACT, then Mars, Sun (my 7th) and square the other 7th, the Moon, appl - coupled with his ASC, very significant this one his 7th conjunct NN square Jupiter, appl my 5th in his 1st, opp his Sun, sep, square his MC/IC, trine Jupiter and Mars/Saturn my 7th (Moon) square his 5th, appl my 7th (Sun) conjunct his ASC EXACT opp his Sun trine his Mars/Saturn Progressed to natal shows:
his 5th conjunct my Uranus EXACT (ASC ruler) in my 9th his 7th square my 11th ruler, on my 11th cusp exact, appl, trine my 7th, sep well, these are outers, and their movement varies too little compared to the natals, perhaps solar arcs would be more useful when one has an outer as a 5th/7th ruler.
my 5th in his 2nd, square his Venus, appl my 7th (Moon) in his 4th, square his 5th, appl, trine his ASC, appl my 7th (Sun) conjunct his 5th in his 2nd, appl, trine his Mercury, Jupiter, Saturn, MC, sextile his NN/IC Conclusion:
-the comparison progressed/natals looks very significant to me, as usually  -I've discovered at the beginning of my relationships my DSC planet - Saturn - is aspected in a major way (apparently hard) to Sun, Moon or ruler. Obviously Saturn sitting on DSC is like a 7th ruler for me. Nice discovery! -also: angles seem to play an important role in significant progressions. ------------------ I seem to have loved you in numberless forms... IP: Logged |
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posted July 26, 2014 11:04 AM
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posted July 26, 2014 02:31 PM
Couples with an OPPOSITE moon phase angle (considered to be "perfect");- William - kate new/full - Lennon - yoko first/third (quarter) - Diego - frida waxing gib/waning crescent - Freud - Wife waning gib/wax cres - Patraeus - Paula broadwell wax cres/waning gib (they had an extramarital affair wich became a media scandal) - Travis Alexander - Jodi Arias waxing gib/waning cresc. (murder case!! - waning cresc. murdered waxing gib) - Tracy Spencer - wife 1st/3rd quarter (he never left her for his big love Hepburn, very nice) - Norma shearer - I. Thalberg 1st/3rd quarter (grrrreat couple) - Marilyn Monroe - Joe dimaggio 1st/3rd quarter - Marilyn Monroe - Arthur Miller 1st/3rd quarter - Famous couple in my country (love love) 1st/3rd quarter Until now, I could only find *ONE* Same phase angle couple! (same phase: considered to be "bad")
The ex-QUEEN of my country and her husband the Prince, both New Moon kids (great couple) (I will see if I can find some progressed relevance for them ^) IP: Logged |
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posted July 26, 2014 02:51 PM
A simple calculator to see in what MOON PHASE you're born/BOTH BORN; http://spacefem.com/quizzes/moon/ IP: Logged |
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posted July 26, 2014 04:13 PM
grrreatme and crush have the opposite phases he is the 1st quarter Moon I am last ( 3th) quarter Moon IP: Logged |
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posted July 26, 2014 08:01 PM
quote: Until now, I could only find *ONE* Same phase angle couple! (same phase: considered to be "bad")The ex-QUEEN of my country and her husband the Prince, both New Moon kids (great couple) (I will see if I can find some progressed relevance for them ^)
The Queen & Prince Philip are both FQ. From what I hear they lead quite separate lives, coming together to coordinate schedules. From my research, same phase people make excellent friends/colleagues/siblings. I find them sitting together a lot, unconsciously of course. It's in the love arena where I see people looking to the opposite phase for a companion. IP: Logged | |