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I'm so cappy
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posted August 26, 2014 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I forgot - my Skuld conjunct his MC
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....but totally unbeatable aspects, Cappy

Oh dear, this time I'm not glad about winning the thread


Skuld conjunct ASC from the 12th...hey, it's conjunct the CITY asteroid too
Werda on my Ceres
Urda on my PoF

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posted August 26, 2014 05:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He has Amor conjunct Urda (1) in his natal...a karmic love...this is totally cute

Synastry:

my Urda conjunct his Skuld on my DSC, all three...0!

my Mercury/Werdandi makes a lot of aspects to his chart (trine Mars and Venus, conjunct Pluto, Vesta etc.). It falls in his 1st house.

my Sun/Skuld opp his Sun/Karma (1)

his Amor/Urda opp my Vesta, square Moon/Lilith/his Juno opp

my Venus conjunct his Werdandi (3)

Draco

my Sun/Skuld conjunct his ASC (1)

my Mercury/Werdandi/his Uranus is the Yod apex of a Yod with his Sun/Karma and my Moon/his Union

his Amor/Urda conjuncts my natal Moon (0)

his Werdandi conjunct my Amor (3)

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posted August 26, 2014 05:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
I forgot - my Skuld conjunct his MC


How could you have forgotten that?

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I'm so cappy
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posted August 26, 2014 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
my Urda conjunct his Skuld on my DSC, all three...0!

WOW

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my Venus conjunct his Werdandi (3)

True

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
How could you have forgotten that?


I know, right! I'll try to be a better psychofan for him.

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posted August 26, 2014 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Composite Urda conjuncts SN/Vertex mdp in the 7th

Vertex 10
SN 19
Urda 14

so cool to have Urda near SN! yay
it conjuncts my natal SN (0)

Composite Werdandi square Sun/nodal axis (0 and 3) It's in the 10th, conjunct my natal Sun (1) opp his natal Sun (0).


Composite Skuld in the 9th, Leo, conjuncts my natal Moon (3) square Venus on ASC (4) trine NN/Mercury (1) and Chiron (3) sextile Sun (3) - Kite with apex: the composite Sun!

My Norns rule!!!!!


All my charts with Pluto Man simply rock Time to eat him alive!!!!! hehehe

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LeeLoo2014
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posted August 26, 2014 06:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All this enthusiasm aside, lol I'm also very enthusiastic about a research with the Norns so, all of you who are also interested, please post your natal/relationship aspects so that we can discuss them.

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la_mer
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posted August 26, 2014 06:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for la_mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not looking too closely at all contacts, but in synastry I noticed a doublewhammy with my north node conjunct his skuld by 1' while his nn is trine by 0'.
So we're both important for each others development in the next life? O.o

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posted August 26, 2014 06:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by la_mer:
Not looking too closely at all contacts, but in synastry I noticed a doublewhammy with my north node conjunct his skuld by 1' while his nn is trine by 0'.
So we're both important for each others development in the next life? O.o

In the next life? I don't think it's about the next life, it's about your prospects, a relationship with a future. A long-term marker, it should be.

Of course, now I'm just expressing a theory, a hypothesis.

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I'm so cappy
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posted August 26, 2014 06:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If midpoints count then we have composite Urda conjunct the ASC-Uranus midpoint (I think)

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Time to eat him alive!!!!! hehehe

I believe he wouldn't mind


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posted August 26, 2014 06:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for la_mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
In the next life? I don't think it's about the next life, it's about your prospects, a relationship with a future. A long-term marker, it should be.

Of course, now I'm just expressing a theory, a hypothesis.


Ah ok I thought future is meant like future future

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posted August 26, 2014 06:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by la_mer:
Ah ok I thought future is meant like future future

Who cares what happens after we die?


Just kidding...but I'm sure you'll have a different Skuld in your future incarnation

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posted August 26, 2014 06:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
If midpoints count then we have composite Urda conjunct the ASC-Uranus midpoint (I think)

[Time to eat him alive!!!!! hehehe
I believe he wouldn't mind



Past projected into the future then


Yep. Time for some intensive practical astrology. I have all the orbs now

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I'm so cappy
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posted August 26, 2014 06:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I checked dracos...HMMM

my draco Urda conjunct his natal SN
my draco Skuld conjunct his natal Moon exact
his draco Urda conjunct my natal Priapus exact
his draco Skuld opposite my natal Moon exact

my draco Urda conjunct his draco Mars
my draco Skuld conjunct his draco IC exact


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Yep. Time for some intensive practical astrology. I have all the orbs now

It's time for an EXACT CONJUNCTION

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IndigoDirae
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posted August 26, 2014 07:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Someone mention the Fates?

I've toyed with MPs of KLOTHO, LACHESIS, and ATROPOS, but, for the life of me, couldn't nail down the latter most. ATROPOS is a toughie. Death? Endings? Inevitability? Augh, WHICH IS IT?

LACHESIS is kooky, too. It's got a weird prominence in death astrology, though 'interruption' or even 'abrupt intervention' is how it's usually thought of.

KLOTHO's pretty straightforward. Beginnings and fresh starts. Clean slates. All that jazz.

I remember looking into the Norns when I was all Norse-happy a few months ago. Always loved the mythos. When I was a kid, I used to say 'hah! Skuld you!' Then I was sad, because nobody got my goofy geek humour.

Anyway, let's have a look-see again. I certainly like the thought of using the MPs. I use them anyway, but in combination with thematic points? That could be VERY illuminating.

Just don't ask me about my TISIPHONE-LACHESIS. I have NO idea. I THINK I do. But, you can never be sure. (I know it's 1° conjunct his SUN. So, that's fun.)

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posted August 26, 2014 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, THAT's where I saw URDA recently. Conjunct my JUNO, 0°; PERSEPHONE, 1°. PERSEPHONE/ALMA=URDA 0°.

Good lord.

WERDANDI=MERCURY/MNEMOSYNE, 0°. Wooooot! Doin' what I'm spos'ta ... :: little jig :: 14° SCO. Whether it's sex, psychology, television, or murder -- I'm on it!

Conjunct IXION-QUAOAR, 1°.

Controversial? Moi? Hey, at least it's controversial geeenius, mind.

She's also conjunct LILITH, 2°30. Oh, guilty. This is a very Lilithian existence.

He's got URDA 1° the GC. Hah! He was hanging out in the Galactic Centre -- I knew it. (Clearly, it's his 12H TARDIS-DNA.)

Huh! WERDANDI=KRONOS/KLOTHO, 0°. Well, that's curious.

And, AND ... I JUST stumbled upon this, totally unrelated.

17° GEM '47 | ANTEROS
18° GEM '09 | MELETE
18° GEM '27 | REQUIEM
19° GEM '01 | VALENTINE
19° GEM '24 | MADHATTER

7H, natch. The whole shebang. Right on my nPSYCHE.

... And now I'm gonna cry.

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Delilah423
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posted August 26, 2014 08:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah423     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Hahaha you're kidding, right?? major fate here! Comments inside your quote.


Yes, I was kidding. It's pretty obviously a fated relationship, starting with his Karma conjunct my Sun.

I wrote: "My natal Urda trine natal Moon, Mars and N.N.; sextile Skuld. Sextiles his Lachesis, squares his Klotho, and semisextiles his ASC. Conjunct helio Composite Moira and his name asteroid in both my natal and his natal (nickname in his chart; actual given name in my chart)."

You responded

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Urda sextiles SN then. Where is Urda? house/sign. It should tell you more about your SN weight

My Urda is at 28 Cancer in the 8th house; makes a lovely (?) Grand Trine with Moon/N.N. in the 4th house at 27 and 28 Pisces and Mars in the 12th at 29 Scorpio. That puts my S.N. in the 9th at 28 Virgo, conjunct my Sun and Saturn (Sun in 10th; Saturn in 9th).

I wrote: "My natal Werdandi sextile natal Moon, square Jupiter, sextile N.N. and Urda; conjunct his natal Lachesis, his Vesta (wider at 3) and his name asteroid in my natal."

You responded:

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Your Werdandi suggests unexpected events in your life, perhaps related to women and to the house Jupiter rules. Is it true?

How do you get unexpected from that?


I wrote: "My natal Skuld trine my ASC and conjunct Davison Moon. Biquintile his Moon, square his Mercury, conjunct his Moira and Pluto, trine his Ceres, and sextile his Urda.

His natal Urda conjunct natal Neptune, sextile Pluto, quincunx Mercury. Conjunct my Alma, square my Uranus, quintile my Urda, sextile my Skuld, and sextile my ASC."

You responded:

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his Urda suggests a SN permeated by Neptune. What Neptune rules will tell you more, but it's a bit like having SN conjunct Neptune.

He has some strong Neptune influences in his chart; Moon square Neptune in particular makes me nutty sometimes. His S.N. is in Sagittarius; probably in the 6th house (ruled by Pluto), with Urda and Neptune in the 5th house (ruled by Venus). I say probably because there is some uncertainty about his birth time; long story.

I wrote: "His natal Werdandi opposite his natal Mars and trine his Uranus. Conjunct my Eros and Juno, and Composite Spirit; quincunx my Vesta, sextile my Atropos."

You responded:

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his Werdandi suggests action, traveling, initiative, Uranian and Mars activities are major for his spiritual evolution. is this true?

Absolutely true. He always has to be going somewhere, doing something, can't sit still for long.

I wrote: "His natal Skuld conjunct his Valentine, opposite his Moon, and semisextile his N.N. Squares my Sun, conjunct my Moira and Composite Venus."

You responded:

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his Skuld suggests a life path connected to love and the possibility to experience true love in this life

He certainly has been on a quest for that; it's obvious he was deeply in love with his third (!) wife, but that ended almost 10 years ago. Not sure yet if I'm the end of his rainbow or not;-)

I wrote:

"Composite:

Urda sextile Venus
Werdandi opposite Mars
Skuld conjunct Sun and Moira, trine Chiron and Juno, sextile Vesta, biquintile MC

Davison:

Urda semisextile Sun, trine Uranus, square Pallas, square Vesta
Werdandi conjunct Sun, trine Pallas, sextile Vesta
Skuld semisquare Mercury, opposite Uranus, trine N.N., sextile Atropos (and conjunct my Lachesis exact). [We're both as old as the hills, so that doesn't scare me too bad].

Do you think there might be some fate involved in our relationship?"

You responded:

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both your synastric and composite connections with the Norns seem very strong. Are you together with Skuld and Werdandi conjunct comp./Davison Sun?

Yes, we've been together for one year now, after meeting initially some 20+ years ago. Not living together, but certainly a serious relationship.

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posted August 27, 2014 01:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
interesting. Thanks.

just a short check up

my natal
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Urda 00 Leo 8th house
exactly conjunct PRIAPUS
square Uranus
trine AMOR


SKULD 26 Libra 10th house
conjunct UNION (3)
conjunct ADONIS (1)
sextile Sun-Mercury exact
trine PSYCHE (2)


WERDA 14 Scorpio 11th house
conjunct SIVA, MOIRA and LONDON exact. lol
conjunct LANCELOT and EURYDIKE
trine JUNO
trine Saturn


his natal
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URDA 16 Leo 6th
sextile WERDANDI (2)
trine SKULD (1)
square VALENTINE 83)


SKULD 17 Aries 1st house
opposite SPIRIT (2)
trine Neptune (3)
opposite WERDANDI (1)
quinkunx natural Black Moon
quinkunx VALENTINE (Yod)


WERDANDI
19 Libra 7th house
conjunct SPIRIT exact
conjunct Pluto
conjunct ANTEROS
sextile Neptune

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posted August 27, 2014 01:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Someone mention the Fates?

I've toyed with MPs of KLOTHO, LACHESIS, and ATROPOS, but, for the life of me, couldn't nail down the latter most. ATROPOS is a toughie. Death? Endings? Inevitability? Augh, WHICH IS IT?


maybe a little bit of all of it, but personally I relate most to the "unavoidable" theme, that which you MUST face and cannot go around.

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posted August 27, 2014 03:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
synastry:

my URDA in his 5th house
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conjunct his JUNO
quinkunx his Moon-MC
opposite his Venus very widely (4°11)
opposite his CIRCE exact
sextile his Vertex-APHRODITE
sextile his KARMA wide (3)
quinkunx his PRIAPUS exact


2 Yods:

his Moon-MC 28 Sagttarius
his Sun 27 Sag
my CIRCE 28 Sag

his PRIAPUS 00 Pisces
my true LILITH 28 Aquarius

my PRIAPUS 00 Leo
my URDA 00 Leo
his JUNO 27 Cancer

(opposing his CIRCE)

2)

his Vertex - APHRODITE 28 Virgo

his JUNo 27 Cancer
my PRIAPUS-URDA 00 Leo


my true LILITH 28 Aquarius
his PRIAPUS 00 Pisces

opposng his true LILITH 28 Leo on his NN 1 Virgo


his URDA in my 8th house

opposite my Moon exact
sextile my KARMA exact
conjunct my CUPIDO (3)
opposite my ATROPOS (3)
quinkunx my JUNO exact


my WERDA exactly on his 8th house cusp
conjunct his ULIXES exact


his WERDA in my 10th house
opposite my Chiron
square my Vertex-EROS-Saturn
sextile my CUPIDO
conjunct my DNA-SAPPHO-MUSA
trine my Moon-ATROPOS-KALLISTO-DIONYSOS. lol


my SKULD in his 7th
conjunct his ADONIS-UNION
sextile his Sun-Moon
square his Venus
square his JUNO
trine his PSYCHE
quinkunx his ASC
sextile his true LILITH


his SKULD in my 4th
conjunct my Chiron
sextile my KARMA
square my Saturn
trine my CUPIDO
opposite my DNA-MUSA-SAPPHO
sextile my Moon-ATROPOS


composite
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URDA 8 Leo in 7th
conjunct KARMA
trine natural and mean LILITH
sextile Jupiter in 5th


WERDA 1 Scorpio in 9th
conjunct UNION
opposite Chiron-ATROPOS
square ASC exact
trine VESTA
quindecile PRIAPUS-DIONYSOS-EROS-IC


SKULD 21 Cap in 12th
conjunct Moon
square Mars-NN-CUPIDO-AMOR
quinkunx Saturn exact
sextile CERES
trine JUNO-ALMA exact
sextile LUST-VALENTINE
quindecile URDA

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If you're not a boss now or a freelancer, you sure will be with your Skuld placement on MC with Ceres and Eris. Any connection between Skuld and your NN?
-> I am already a freelancer You are good! Yes, Skuld biquintiles my saturn/nn in virgo 2h

Your Werdandi emphasises the same theme: in Leo and 1st - it's important for your spiritual revolution to rule, to be a leader. Your Mercury/Jupiter conjunction is something you should develop strongly: you could be a writer, a traveler, a teacher with this one and, of course, anything the houses ruled by these planets suggest.
-> Great to hear, thank you

Yes, my chart suggest me being a leader but to be honest I HATE taking responsibilities. I like to be my own boss like being a freelancer but employees....not really

It looks like your Urda trines your Pisces SN and being in 12th Cancer it suggests your SN is very watery and 12th house.
-> So I am an intuitive person?

Now, I am going to your aspects

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posted August 27, 2014 04:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Enneline,

my Urda is exactly on my DSC (under 1 deg) and of course, conjunct Saturn. It suggests, together with Saturn, a fated partner, someone from previous lives, perhaps. It relates to my karma on SN (3) and my Moon, DSC ruler, trining SN exact.
-> I would agree with that

my Werdandi conjuncts my Mercury (1) in Libra 8th. It is, as you know, my 5th and 8th ruler, and the disp of my Sun. Definitely a focal planet for me. It also rules my SN in Gem.
-> Again: therapist Someone who heals/teaches like you promised yourself in a past life

my Skuld conjuncts my Sun (3) squares my nodal axis. It is a nice parallel with my Sun squaring nodal axis.
-> Maybe you are able to see the future?!

I am not in touch with Draco charts

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posted August 27, 2014 05:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Synastry with Mr.Uranus

his Urd trine my NN 1
his Urd conjunct my MC exact

his Skuld square my Sun 1

I am only using orb of 1.

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posted August 27, 2014 07:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
I checked dracos...HMMM

my draco Urda conjunct his natal SN
my draco Skuld conjunct his natal Moon exact
his draco Urda conjunct my natal Priapus exact
his draco Skuld opposite my natal Moon exact

my draco Urda conjunct his draco Mars
my draco Skuld conjunct his draco IC exact


Let's go kidnap this guy, the charts are too good.

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posted August 27, 2014 07:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Delilah,

"How do you get unexpected from that?"


Secret of the trade Is it true then?

Sun and Saturn conjunct SN and Urda in the 8th - was there a need for you to overcome your birth condition/family situation/first half of life somehow?

Definitely an old soul with these placements, wrapping up things. Perhaps some important events/turning points in your life were triggered by other people or situations out of your control? You must have an interesting life with these placements

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posted August 27, 2014 08:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Oh, THAT's where I saw URDA recently. Conjunct my JUNO, 0°; PERSEPHONE, 1°. PERSEPHONE/ALMA=URDA 0°.

with this, I think a soulmate, a karmic partner from the past is indicated. Strongly.


Good lord.

WERDANDI=MERCURY/MNEMOSYNE, 0°. Wooooot! Doin' what I'm spos'ta ... :: little jig :: 14° SCO. Whether it's sex, psychology, television, or murder -- I'm on it!

Conjunct IXION-QUAOAR, 1°.

Controversial? Moi? Hey, at least it's controversial geeenius, mind.


hey, this is wonderful. You do EXACTLY what you're supposed to do

She's also conjunct LILITH, 2°30. Oh, guilty. This is a very Lilithian existence.

He's got URDA 1° the GC. Hah! He was hanging out in the Galactic Centre -- I knew it. (Clearly, it's his 12H TARDIS-DNA.)

Huh! WERDANDI=KRONOS/KLOTHO, 0°. Well, that's curious.

And, AND ... I JUST stumbled upon this, totally unrelated.

17° GEM '47 | ANTEROS
18° GEM '09 | MELETE
18° GEM '27 | REQUIEM
19° GEM '01 | VALENTINE
19° GEM '24 | MADHATTER

7H, natch. The whole shebang. Right on my nPSYCHE.

... And now I'm gonna cry.


Indeed. I think some pain and longing in love is indicated with this stellium. And nostalgia.


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